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Posted by: vampire18 May 16 2009, 10:45 AM

still on the quest for Tronds tone.
whats the podxt (i have all the packs) equivalent to double delay?

Posted by: Emir Hot May 16 2009, 10:57 AM

What's double delay? Do you have an example to hear?

Posted by: Jakub Luptovec May 16 2009, 11:12 AM

Its Cubase plugin FX. Its like... double delay, as the name says. Two repetitions of your signal - for example one delay is on eight note triplets and another delay on quarter notes.

And no, there is none

EDIT: Or yes, there is if you have X3 - you can have two tones at once, so you can have two separate delays... That will do it

Posted by: Emir Hot May 16 2009, 11:20 AM

Now I got it. I have some delay plugin from Waves and that one can have 5 different settings for delay time. And Jakub's trick would also work but not delay after delay in stack. You need to send your signal to two separate buses and insert delay on each bus with different delay settings. If you insert them on one insert you will "delay" already delayed sound and hear too much mess. I think guitar rig has one that can do that as well.

Posted by: vampire18 May 16 2009, 12:29 PM

i give up, there aren't enough effects in the world to make a stock squire sounds like a pimped out SLSMG, if i were to invent one i would probably be a very very rich man

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic May 17 2009, 12:42 AM

hehe, good point man! You can put new strings, and try to use several combinations of effects. I use Amplitube Fender, and various plugins in the production to make a good sound, never one product. Try to combine and use several products, like compressors, reverbs, delay, best of the best, tweak them and experiment. This way you will get to some very interesting results.

Posted by: Jakub Luptovec May 17 2009, 07:07 PM

I'll tell you one story.I had a friend in germany who inspired me to play.. once I went to him with my first guitar, and was excited how metal it sounded. Its Cort from Mahogany with ebony fretboard and EMG/HZ (HSH combination) for 500$.. Then he gave me to try his Yamaha pacifica starter guitar for 200$ made from cheap and light woods, in which he changed bridge and neck pickup - bridge for EMG 81 and neck for Fender custom shop single.

It killed my guitar both in metal and in cleans.

Lesson learned: even cheap guitars with strong active Pup's will sound killer

Posted by: Emir Hot May 17 2009, 07:13 PM

I agree here but sometimes higher price is there for a reason as well. Frets can be worn out quickly, metal from which the bridge is made is not as good (I had to change floyd rose in my case), wood quality can cause neck to bend in 7-8 years etc... Pickups are something different. I would change them on the most expensive guitars anyway.

Posted by: Jakub Luptovec May 17 2009, 10:15 PM

yeah but for beginner/intermediate it works just fine:) Well if you buy schecter/ibanez/esp/jackson... for 1 500$ its something completely different - in terms of both the tone and feeling.

But thats for the top priced guitars. IMO the difference between 200$ and 500$ guitar is much smaller than between 800$ and 500$ - but I may be wrong ofc. I just think that if you shop around, you can get perfectly playable guitar for 350$

Posted by: Emir Hot May 17 2009, 10:24 PM

this is 100% true

Posted by: JamesT May 17 2009, 11:59 PM

This is from the POD X3 Users manual...

Line 6 Stereo Delay – Ever asked yourself, how did The Edge (U2) get that groovy sound
on “Where the Streets Have No Name”? Stereo delays, my friend. It’s the secret to many a U2
song, as well as the “Big L.A. Solo” sound of the late ’80s. Set one side as a fast echo with many
repeats, and the other as a slow delay with just a few repeats. Voila, you’re famous!
Run this effect post in order to hear it in stereo, with one delay on the left, and another on
the right. The time parameter sets the left delay’s time, while offset sets the right delay time as
a percentage of the left. So, if you set time to 500ms, and offset to 50%, your right delay time
will be 50% of 500ms—in other words, 250ms. Ignoring the particular value of the left delay
time, 50% just means that your right delay happens in half the time. So if you think of the
left delay as a quarter note, the right delay is an eighth note. The second page of parameters
for this model gives you independent left and right feedback controls, so for instance you can
have your left delay feedback set low for a small number of repeats, while the right feedback is
set high to give you a large number of repeats.

Here's a screenshot from GearBox...


I use this but I haven't tweaked the parameters too much like to sync to tempo since I usually record dry, and then add delay from within Sonar.