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Pedja Simovic
Feb 6 2009, 11:09 AM
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This is great thread and initiative Tolek.

I would love to see this happen sometime in the future.
Something cross my mind when I read your responses guys...

If you come to Serbia (Nis or Belgrade) I can organize us some CLUB just for us where we could have our own event there. So stage, we can do live playing tell jokes and storys whatever you feel like smile.gif

Serbia is much cheaper compared to England for example when it comes to this kind of things. The only problem that I see for everybody is getting plane tickets to Belgrade as it may be a bit expensive.
When I was flying from Boston to Belgrade round trip used to go from 700$ (couple of years ago) all the way to 1000$ now.
Overall guys from Europe traveling will have not much price difference if you are flying to Prag, Belgrade, Athens, Rome etc as its all very close to each other and price may be 50 euro difference tops smile.gif

Let me know what you think of that idea cause I can make that happen no problem.

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It sure is a great idea and if the distance is not to far for me i would love to come..... I really dont have enogh cash to travel far

I will see how this goes and where the meeting is taking place and then decide if i can go or not

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QUOTE (Pedja Simovic @ Feb 6 2009, 11:09 AM) *
This is great thread and initiative Tolek.

I would love to see this happen sometime in the future.
Something cross my mind when I read your responses guys...

If you come to Serbia (Nis or Belgrade) I can organize us some CLUB just for us where we could have our own event there. So stage, we can do live playing tell jokes and storys whatever you feel like smile.gif

Serbia is much cheaper compared to England for example when it comes to this kind of things. The only problem that I see for everybody is getting plane tickets to Belgrade as it may be a bit expensive.
When I was flying from Boston to Belgrade round trip used to go from 700$ (couple of years ago) all the way to 1000$ now.
Overall guys from Europe traveling will have not much price difference if you are flying to Prag, Belgrade, Athens, Rome etc as its all very close to each other and price may be 50 euro difference tops smile.gif

Let me know what you think of that idea cause I can make that happen no problem.

Thanks


Sounds great ohmy.gif....
Something just hit me while reading your post pedja.... (cheap beer?? rolleyes.gif )
btw how are the girls in serbia? cool.gif (omg I shouldnt say that.. I have a girlfriend ohmy.gif )

I think the best option for us is to go somewhere close to someone who is able to arrange things. It would be cool if it took place in Holland but.. Im not really good at arranging things like places to stay and stuff like that, so that would probably go wrong haha

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Vasilije Vukmiro...
Feb 6 2009, 01:06 PM
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Great idea. I will probably go to the euro trip(France, Italy, Spain...) in a 2 months, it would be so cool to meet someone from GMC.
Even better, what do you think about local GMC meetings(maybe communities), like GMC Serbia, GMC France, GMC Sweden, GMC Italy?

Cool idea!

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I can make it anywhere in world and very easily anywhere in europe. If it was in london i would laugh my chops off but see none of the world. Organise this and i will be there. Im in uk.

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Feb 6 2009, 01:27 PM
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Isn't the region Holland, Belgium, France and Germany the most central for us EU GMCers?

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Some people from another Guitar Site I use all decided to meet up a few years ago. We all met in Germany at the Jemfest in Cologne!!!!
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I'd be up for meeting anywhere in Europe but my problem will be more Date related as I'm usually busy at Festivals during the Summer!!!
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Just about the only place id be willing to travel to is London- dont have the money at the moment but give me 10 minutes to extend my bank overdraft and i'm there laugh.gif

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Feb 6 2009, 02:20 PM
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QUOTE (kaznie_NL @ Feb 6 2009, 01:27 PM) *
Isn't the region Holland, Belgium, France and Germany the most central for us EU GMCers?

Yes it is Kaznie, Brussels (the capital of Belgium) is called the center of Europe.
The big meetings of the European ministers are in Brussels etc... smile.gif

So it's the center of Europe biggrin.gif

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I geuss I could go to Germany, Holland or similar for this. Depends a lot on time, price etc.

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QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ Feb 6 2009, 02:25 PM) *
I geuss I could go to Germany, Holland or similar for this. Depends a lot on time, price etc.

Same thing here, Belgium, England, Ireland, Scotland, Holland, France, Germany, Luxembourg and maybe Spain or Portugal...

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Belgrade sounds good biggrin.gif

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I have heard of a company in the uk doing guitar type vacations, all the interested parties pay a sum of money and meet up at a pre-arranged venue and jam for the day/weekend, i have considered going on one of these but it would be even better if it were our instructors. You would get a great group booking discount for say 30 members in a hotel and it would pay for the instructors time and expenses to hold some open seminars and the like.
You could even do a few a year (depending on the committments the instructors already have of course!) in and around europe (not forgetting our US cousins could adopt the idea too!).
People would have to arrange their own travel but if you had one within a 4-5 hour drive who wouldnt want to come? If enough people are interested you could even run a discounted rate for the younger members who would otherwise maybe miss out.
I bet you would even get some hardware companies and wholesalers interested in some form of participation and sponsorship.

Seriously guys, this is acheivable, I would definitley help set up something in the UK as a pilot, if the management will sanction something in the name of GMC!

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Awesome idea and I would certainly try to attend the meeting.

Preferred places for me would be Amsterdam tongue.gif, Belgium, Germany. France (north) or UK (London) would be fine too. I will just grab my car and drive to these places smile.gif.

When: doesn't matter for me as I never have enough time anyways smile.gif

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I'm definately in for something like this. Meetings are really cool. Maybe we can do like a weekend or 3 days?

To me, Holland would be best obviously. But England, Belgium, Germany, France are doable as well.

Oh yeah and I'm also willing to put some money in the jar if people don't have enough $$ to come smile.gif


EDIT: This is a really cool idea. Even now that I'm ill I'm really enthousiastic about it. We should make a Meeting-Committee or something!

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QUOTE (enforcer @ Feb 6 2009, 03:56 PM) *
Belgrade sounds good biggrin.gif


If Pedja could organize it... would be a great solution smile.gif

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To give you guys some ideas of the costs etc...

We run courses training people in radio production. Courses are usually 5 days long, with classes for 8 hours per day, and limited to a maximum of 20 students. Students are placed in to accommodation in our local town on a bed and breakfast type basis plus an introductory 'getting to know you' event and a leaving meal. Student accommodation for B&B is about 25 Euros per night, plus cost of lunch and an evening meal which they pay direct to the B&B, restaurant or what ever - we don't get any thing. We are not responsible for travel costs etc.

To cover 20 students for classes we use all the rooms in our local 'Casa Cultura'/Music school (that's 4 teaching rooms) plus we also use other rooms elsewhere or break out events/teaching. We pay around 800Euros to hire the Casa for two weeks (1 week training plus extra days either way for set up and take down). In addition to this we then have to pay the full cost - travel, accommodation and wage, of any trainer/instructor. That is usually around 2500 Euros for 1 week (approx 300Euros per day excluding expenses - this is dependent on the experience and skills of the instructor and on how many sessions they lead though). We routinely use two full time trainers. So to generate a profit we routinely need to clear in excess of 5800Euros from 20 students.

So in my experience the major outlay re organising is the wage and expenses of an instructor. On top of that though the actual hire of suitable accommodation and equipment can quickly mount up.

WRT accommodation - it is actually surprisingly hard to find suitable accommodation for large parties of people. To get it you need to book it quite some time in advance.

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Lets hold it on the continent of Antartica. Same traveling for everyone!


And WE all bring our gear and MELT the polar ice caps! smile.gif

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QUOTE (tonymiro @ Feb 6 2009, 05:56 PM) *
To give you guys some ideas of the costs etc...

We run courses training people in radio production. Courses are usually 5 days long, with classes for 8 hours per day, and limited to a maximum of 20 students. Students are placed in to accommodation in our local town on a bed and breakfast type basis plus an introductory 'getting to know you' event and a leaving meal. Student accommodation for B&B is about 25 Euros per night, plus cost of lunch and an evening meal which they pay direct to the B&B, restaurant or what ever - we don't get any thing. We are not responsible for travel costs etc.

To cover 20 students for classes we use all the rooms in our local 'Casa Cultura'/Music school (that's 4 teaching rooms) plus we also use other rooms elsewhere or break out events/teaching. We pay around 800Euros to hire the Casa for two weeks (1 week training plus extra days either way for set up and take down). In addition to this we then have to pay the full cost - travel, accommodation and wage, of any trainer/instructor. That is usually around 2500 Euros for 1 week (approx 300Euros per day excluding expenses - this is dependent on the experience and skills of the instructor and on how many sessions they lead though). We routinely use two full time trainers. So to generate a profit we routinely need to clear in excess of 5800Euros from 20 students.

So in my experience the major outlay re organising is the wage and expenses of an instructor. On top of that though the actual hire of suitable accommodation and equipment can quickly mount up.

WRT accommodation - it is actually surprisingly hard to find suitable accommodation for large parties of people. To get it you need to book it quite some time in advance.


The trouble with providing accommodation in the cost is that everyone will have different standards and some may have specific requirements, also as you say arranging for large parties can be difficult (I'd like 30 rooms for a load of guitarists please, yeah right!) i thin kit would be much better to leave accommodation and travel upto the individual who can then get something specific to their requirements, anyone with reasonable local knowledge of the area would help with this through the forums too. It would also keep the upfront costs down and not scare people off the idea, i see the cost of mounting something like this as follows:

Hire of venue
Instructors expenses (inc travel, board and any fees)
Catering
material publication for the event.

The website I have been looking at offers full weekend breaks for around 400 GBP but that is obviously with profit in mind and I reckon we could reduce this drastically by keeping it as "Not for profit" event.

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QUOTE (Mrblomme @ Feb 6 2009, 02:20 PM) *
Yes it is Kaznie, Brussels (the capital of Belgium) is called the center of Europe.
The big meetings of the European ministers are in Brussels etc... smile.gif

So it's the center of Europe biggrin.gif


I love Brussels. Awesome beer. Now I imagine all you guys there... heaven!! smile.gif

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