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Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 25 2012, 12:15 AM

Hey Timmy biggrin.gif this is your very own guitar mentoring thread, so, I thought we could start by telling me some thing about your musical background and knowledge (guitar and music oriented) plus a few of your favorite musicians/ bands. smile.gif

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b Mar 26 2012, 09:52 PM


Hi Cosmin,
Ok, Ive been playing guitar for nearly 10 years now. unfrotunatly not as seriously and dedicated as i should have . ( a couple years i actually stopped playing) But ive been very serious about it again for the last year or so. which is great! I also played clarinet and saxaphone in the school band when i was younger ( unfortunatly not anymore) I also use FL studio for creating electronic styleed music)

I used to play with people/bands in the past but ive been traveling a lot ( currently living in Holland) the last couple years, so not as much anymore. Played a lot as a bass player too. Guitar was mainly as a rythym player, so my lead/improv skills are lacking. Also like to play fingerpicked nylonstring. bach pieces ect...

I loved 90s punk when i was a kid, discovered metallica/megadeth/pantera and metal and it all went from there.
But i love so much different styles i cant list it all. but pretty much all classic rock and metal. I also Love Iron Maiden, FNM Also band s like LIVE, RHCP, AIC, Soundgarden, Ratm. ( stuff from my youth) ect... Random stuff like john Butler trio, cat stevens, jack johnson. also the blues like SRV the three Kings ect.. Pretty much anything with kick ass guitar work!
I also have a love of classical music, particulary barouqe era lute stuff, and also spanish/flamenco style. And as a byproduct of my old profession, I have a wierd obsession with Trance music. So yeah, a wierd mix. its turning into a never ending mission to hear everything.

Ok Knowledge, I understand the concepts of -- Major Scales, Circle of 5ths, open/closed triads + stacking 3rds, Triad inversions, Arpegios, Good knoweldge of chords and their construction. I can read sheet music ok. have on ok knowledge of modes and their relation to chords ( part of my current learning sceduel) Have a reasonably trained ear. (can Transcribe music when needed)

Im currently working on my picking Techniques as their out of date. Alt picking and sweeps, legato ect. Phrasing/leadwork and improv are also getting worked on.
But the main thing im wanting to work on next/ acheive, is being able to play what i hearing in my mind more easily and have more feel and spontaniousness ( Is that even a word!?) in my playing, to also improve my writing and composing skills, and to just be a great all round player.

Wow, ive ranted on more than was necasarry i think. my appologies. Hope that answers all your questions and i didnt forget anything. Thanks for time, and hope to hear from you soon.

Tim Blaha







Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 28 2012, 08:56 AM

Hey man!


I don't think you're ranting at all smile.gif it's good to know all you told me and I would like to suggest that we start with ear training and phrasing as tis is mainly what you need to do to be bale to express yourself, IF you can use the other things you told me about, regarding theory and technique smile.gif

Can you show me something audio/ video of you playing?

Cosmin


QUOTE (Timmy b @ Mar 26 2012, 08:52 PM) *
Hi Cosmin,
Ok, Ive been playing guitar for nearly 10 years now. unfrotunatly not as seriously and dedicated as i should have . ( a couple years i actually stopped playing) But ive been very serious about it again for the last year or so. which is great! I also played clarinet and saxaphone in the school band when i was younger ( unfortunatly not anymore) I also use FL studio for creating electronic styleed music)

I used to play with people/bands in the past but ive been traveling a lot ( currently living in Holland) the last couple years, so not as much anymore. Played a lot as a bass player too. Guitar was mainly as a rythym player, so my lead/improv skills are lacking. Also like to play fingerpicked nylonstring. bach pieces ect...

I loved 90s punk when i was a kid, discovered metallica/megadeth/pantera and metal and it all went from there.
But i love so much different styles i cant list it all. but pretty much all classic rock and metal. I also Love Iron Maiden, FNM Also band s like LIVE, RHCP, AIC, Soundgarden, Ratm. ( stuff from my youth) ect... Random stuff like john Butler trio, cat stevens, jack johnson. also the blues like SRV the three Kings ect.. Pretty much anything with kick ass guitar work!
I also have a love of classical music, particulary barouqe era lute stuff, and also spanish/flamenco style. And as a byproduct of my old profession, I have a wierd obsession with Trance music. So yeah, a wierd mix. its turning into a never ending mission to hear everything.

Ok Knowledge, I understand the concepts of -- Major Scales, Circle of 5ths, open/closed triads + stacking 3rds, Triad inversions, Arpegios, Good knoweldge of chords and their construction. I can read sheet music ok. have on ok knowledge of modes and their relation to chords ( part of my current learning sceduel) Have a reasonably trained ear. (can Transcribe music when needed)

Im currently working on my picking Techniques as their out of date. Alt picking and sweeps, legato ect. Phrasing/leadwork and improv are also getting worked on.
But the main thing im wanting to work on next/ acheive, is being able to play what i hearing in my mind more easily and have more feel and spontaniousness ( Is that even a word!?) in my playing, to also improve my writing and composing skills, and to just be a great all round player.

Wow, ive ranted on more than was necasarry i think. my appologies. Hope that answers all your questions and i didnt forget anything. Thanks for time, and hope to hear from you soon.

Tim Blaha


Posted by: Timmy b Apr 4 2012, 07:02 PM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Mar 28 2012, 07:56 AM) *
Hey man!


I don't think you're ranting at all smile.gif it's good to know all you told me and I would like to suggest that we start with ear training and phrasing as tis is mainly what you need to do to be bale to express yourself, IF you can use the other things you told me about, regarding theory and technique smile.gif

Can you show me something audio/ video of you playing?

Cosmin



Hi Cosmin,
I just figured out how this thread thing works! I didnt realise i'd gotten a message from you. My bad

I dont really have anything to show you playing wise, ill have to put something together. ( any suggestions?)
Im also figuring out how to post videos. Puting my stuff on the net was never really my thing.

So, a day or two and ill having something up for you.

Cheers
Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Apr 4 2012, 09:58 PM

QUOTE (Timmy b @ Apr 4 2012, 06:02 PM) *
Hi Cosmin,
I just figured out how this thread thing works! I didnt realise i'd gotten a message from you. My bad

I dont really have anything to show you playing wise, ill have to put something together. ( any suggestions?)
Im also figuring out how to post videos. Puting my stuff on the net was never really my thing.

So, a day or two and ill having something up for you.

Cheers
Tim


Hey Tim! You can make a youtube account and post the videos here, with the 'Embed' option on youtube smile.gif

you can pick up a lesson from here at GMC if you'd like, maybe something having both lead and rhythm? Pick one which you would like very much so that it ll be fun to learn wink.gif and record it

I can recommend one if you'd like!

Cosmin


Posted by: Timmy b Apr 5 2012, 08:55 AM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Apr 4 2012, 08:58 PM) *
Hey Tim! You can make a youtube account and post the videos here, with the 'Embed' option on youtube smile.gif

you can pick up a lesson from here at GMC if you'd like, maybe something having both lead and rhythm? Pick one which you would like very much so that it ll be fun to learn wink.gif and record it

I can recommend one if you'd like!

Cosmin



Sure! What would you recommend?

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Apr 5 2012, 03:37 PM

Alright man! How does this feel: http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/rhythm-guitar/funk-rhythm-lesson/ it's got rhythm and a bit of lead here and there smile.gif if it's too difficult, please let me know!

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b Apr 5 2012, 04:18 PM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Apr 5 2012, 02:37 PM) *
Alright man! How does this feel: http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/rhythm-guitar/funk-rhythm-lesson/ it's got rhythm and a bit of lead here and there smile.gif if it's too difficult, please let me know!

Cosmin


Sweet man! I'll do a take for you!

Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Apr 6 2012, 07:14 AM

QUOTE (Timmy b @ Apr 5 2012, 03:18 PM) *
Sweet man! I'll do a take for you!

Tim


Great Tim! Looking forward to it wink.gif

Posted by: Timmy b Apr 7 2012, 01:38 PM

Hey Cosmin

Im having a bit of trouble getting a recording done for you. Never really done this before so im having some issues
Im using a program called "Debut video capture" But it seems capturing sound and video at once is to much for the computer to handle all at once, As having issues with Latency and syncing and just cant get a desent take done. Doesnt seem to be the right way to go

Im using a HP laptop (couple years old), and a Line 6 ux1 usb interface, by the way

Do you have any advice on how to tackle this problem. Any software recomendations, techniques, ect...?
Its staring to get a bit frustrating!!

Cheers

Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Apr 7 2012, 01:41 PM

Hey bro! I got somethin for ya! There's this nifty little video here which will show you to the good stuff! Check it out:


Posted by: Timmy b Apr 9 2012, 10:19 AM

Ok, After an epic batle with technology, i've finnaly come out the winner!

So here's a take, the videos not synced that well, but will improve in the future.
The lesson wasn't too difficult, although gettining the "feel' was chalenging. will definetly need more work over time.
But you took me out of my "comfort zone" with this one, well done! smile.gif



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxCCuykhBj8


Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Apr 10 2012, 11:12 AM

QUOTE (Timmy b @ Apr 9 2012, 09:19 AM) *
Ok, After an epic batle with technology, i've finnaly come out the winner!

So here's a take, the videos not synced that well, but will improve in the future.
The lesson wasn't too difficult, although gettining the "feel' was chalenging. will definetly need more work over time.
But you took me out of my "comfort zone" with this one, well done! smile.gif



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxCCuykhBj8


Tim


Wow biggrin.gif Very good mate! I think the execution was top notch, but you still have a bit more work to make it groove, it's a bit rigid, but WELL DONE! I will most definitely share this to put a little light on you if you'd like smile.gif Now, let's see, you told me you want to develop some chops and work on phrasing and ear training in order to be able to use the axe as an instrument of self expression.

I think your level is pretty high and I can let you tackle some difficult stuff, true?

I would suggest we focus on AP, legato and articulation - these are the most important and used in my opinion, so please let me know if this is ok for ya and we can rock!

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b Apr 10 2012, 01:02 PM


Hi Cosmin

Glad you like it, but like you said the groove is lacking! You can definetly share it if you like. Im also gonna do some rec's of other lessons ive done, should i post it here, or onto the usual forums?

We can try some more difficult lessons for sure, though some limitations will exist. The AP, legato and articulation will slowly fix that though,so good idea with those. Also I have just stared on "bens land of legato" so guess that a good first step!

Anyways, what lessons do you have in mind for me to work on. Im keen to get started!

Tim


Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Apr 11 2012, 10:03 AM

QUOTE (Timmy b @ Apr 10 2012, 12:02 PM) *
Hi Cosmin

Glad you like it, but like you said the groove is lacking! You can definetly share it if you like. Im also gonna do some rec's of other lessons ive done, should i post it here, or onto the usual forums?

We can try some more difficult lessons for sure, though some limitations will exist. The AP, legato and articulation will slowly fix that though,so good idea with those. Also I have just stared on "bens land of legato" so guess that a good first step!

Anyways, what lessons do you have in mind for me to work on. Im keen to get started!

Tim


hey man!

Here's what I have in mind for ya wink.gif another lesson implying groove so that you may hone the pulse and grooving in you:

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/funk_lesson-saraceno_style/ this one has AP in it as well, so it'll work out on both directions wink.gif

For less intricate AP and if the above lesson feels nasty, we can try this one: http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Picking-Hand-Basics/ it's pretty basic, but it's a good warm up smile.gif

Ben's series is top notch - keep on with it and when you feel ready, send a vid my way wink.gif

For articulation, I would recommend starting out with this one: http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Bens-Vibrato-Odyssey/

How bout these mate? Post everything here first and then we can take it in the REC zone where you will be in the ring, so to say biggrin.gif

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b Apr 11 2012, 10:54 AM

Hey Cosmin

Sounds great! I'll get started on them right away!

I'll post some stuff for you soon!

Cheers
Tim


QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Apr 11 2012, 09:03 AM) *
hey man!

Here's what I have in mind for ya wink.gif another lesson implying groove so that you may hone the pulse and grooving in you:

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/funk_lesson-saraceno_style/ this one has AP in it as well, so it'll work out on both directions wink.gif

For less intricate AP and if the above lesson feels nasty, we can try this one: http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Picking-Hand-Basics/ it's pretty basic, but it's a good warm up smile.gif

Ben's series is top notch - keep on with it and when you feel ready, send a vid my way wink.gif

For articulation, I would recommend starting out with this one: http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Bens-Vibrato-Odyssey/

How bout these mate? Post everything here first and then we can take it in the REC zone where you will be in the ring, so to say biggrin.gif

Cosmin


Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Apr 12 2012, 01:09 PM

Awesomeness mate smile.gif I'm here if you need a hand along the way smile.gif

cheers

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b Apr 12 2012, 02:08 PM

Ok, Ive got one for ya!

http://youtu.be/wLMFQCYeBA8

Its the picking hand basics, ive done it before a few times and its easy one the surface, but after recording it a few flaws pop up in my playing. Nothing major i think, just needs more practicing i guess to tighten it up. I will pop it into my warm up folder.
Thought you could check it out though.

Also, Its quite interesting how different your sound is once its been recorded as opposed to what your ears actually percive.
Im staring to notice little flaws all over my playing ohmy.gif So definetly need to do more of this stuff

Also sorry about the guitar tone, it went a bit fuzzy when put into movie maker for some reason?

So enjoy, and ill get back to work

Cheers
Tim


Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Apr 13 2012, 09:33 AM

Hey Tim! Looks good and sounds good - nice timing and it's tight. I especially like the fact that you are holding your pick parallel to the strings as to achieve a full bodied tone smile.gif

Let's see what's next!

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b Apr 23 2012, 09:47 AM

Allright! Here we go!

Ive got a take on "Saraceno funk lesson" Unfortunatly its not quite spot on. I did this as a rough take before i hurt my pinkie.
Its got a couple little mistakes in there though.

http://youtu.be/ObqY5ZFUfPA

I took a few days off and started some light playing again today, tried to do a new take too, but just couldnt get one spot on.
Then i had the feeling in my pinkie again, so it seems its not quite finished healing itself yet sad.gif

So wondering what to do now. Im thinking of working on some less difficult things that dont involve the pinkie
Im going to finish memorizing my major scales to i can be more proficient with them when it comes to modes.
Also work on some theory behind chord progression and composition. bit of a weak spot there i think.
Do you have any sugestions?

Anyway, hope you like it mate.

Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Apr 23 2012, 12:00 PM

Ahoy Tim! Great man - good timing and tightness! You could punch a bit of gain in that tone to make it a bit more present and aggressive, as well as being wider and certain on the vibrato and bends. Otherwise, it's very good!

We could start discussing a bit on the major scale, intervals, harmonizing, chord progressions and harmony/ melody relationships, how does that sound?

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b Apr 23 2012, 12:26 PM

Hey Cosmin

Sounds great! I have general knoweldge in these areas , but it all hasnt "clicked together". to make a full picture.
Deefinetly keen to look into it more.

Also ill come back to saraceno lesson once this finger sorts itself out. Get it polished up! Its a really cool lesson!

Also, thanks for posting my video a little while ago in the forums. Somehow i only just found it today! huh.gif


Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Apr 24 2012, 07:36 AM

You're welcome man smile.gif

Let's dive into things - so, can you tell me what you know about the major scale and intervals? I got a few exercises which will help memorize the notes of each major scale and work on your ear training and interval knowledge, but first let's see what you already know smile.gif

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b Apr 24 2012, 08:29 AM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Apr 24 2012, 06:36 AM) *
You're welcome man smile.gif

Let's dive into things - so, can you tell me what you know about the major scale and intervals? I got a few exercises which will help memorize the notes of each major scale and work on your ear training and interval knowledge, but first let's see what you already know smile.gif

Cosmin


Ok, Major scale. I know there are 12 of them. (plus enharmonic ones i guess in relation to circle of fifths,eg.. C#/Db - F#/Gb - B/Cb)
Formula = 1234567 or wwhwwwh. I understand the degrees. 6th= Relative minor(aeolian) 2nd=Dorian ect... plus a good grasp on locations of paterns on the neck. Need to memorize the notes better i guess

Intervals, good understanding i guess. i know the old method of naming. eg perfect/diminished 5th, major/augmented 2nd. But prefer the simpler sytem of b2 b6 #4 ect. I know the importance of some of the intervals. eg thirds in relation to major/minor- 7ths in 7th Chords - 5th being the perfect 5th and all that.

Hmm , think thats about it. Hows that sound?

Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Apr 25 2012, 09:20 AM

It sounds like we can already start discussing about modes laugh.gif it sounds like you know enough stuff to dive into the world of modes - would you like that?

I am running a v-chat series on modes and we can talk about these a lot - progressions and the relationship between harmony and melody.

What are your 5 fav songs? smile.gif Let's analyze their progressions and see what we can find biggrin.gif

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b Apr 25 2012, 10:00 AM

Hi Cosmin, Sounds good!
Definetly will try to catch the chat

As for fav songs, thats too hard a question! smile.gif
I'll give you some songs i like from my "flavour of the month" stuff.

Iron Maiden - Wasted years
Dream theatre - Another Day
Faith no more - Everythings ruined
The Living End - West End Riot
Def Leppard - Hysteria

Hmm, Pretty wierd mix huh! tongue.gif

Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Apr 26 2012, 07:57 AM

Alright Tim!

I like the first three myself biggrin.gif so this will be interesting. Let's start with the DT song:

Verse:

Am F/A Am G7sus4 G

F C Bb G7sus4 G

Am F/A Am G7sus4 G

F C Bb Am

Chorus:

Dm7 C/E F C

Dm7 C/E F G7sus4 G

Tell me, what conclusions would you draw regarding the following things:

- on what scales are the chord progressions based?
- can you sort out the verse and chorus vocal lines and see what notes are being used? biggrin.gif This will lead us to a discussion around the relationship between the harmonic context and the melodies smile.gif

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b Apr 26 2012, 10:31 AM

Hey Cosmin
This a little tricky, but its good you're forcing me to do this!

Fiirstly im a little confused, as im not able to match the chords you gave me to the actual song? Maybe ive got a different version? Or maybe im just bad with hearing piano Chords tongue.gif not sure

Ok,based on the chords you gave me, I think the verse prog is based on the C major scale. vi-IV-V-V IV-I-?-V-V. vi-IV-V-V IV-I-?-vi. But the Bb doesnt fit? but the G7 fits in the c major scale.
It also fits in the F major scale too. iii-I-ii-?-I-IV-ii-? But now G major doesnt fit. But i assume the g7sus doesnt matter too much because of its missing 3rd?
but i was also thinking of minor keys/scale. but not exactly sure on them. your gonna have to help me with this.
also, which is the tonal base on slash chords?

The Chorus works out of the C major again. ii-I-IV-I.( I think)


From my own findings i found these bass notes in the verse G#,F#,E ,B,A, F# - G#,F#,E, B, A, G#
In the chorus im hearing C#,D#,E, B - C#,D#,E,F# iii- ii - I - vi-IV-ii iii- ii - I -vi-IV -iii Based on E major?
ii - iii - IV -vi ii - iii - IV-ii

Also the Bridge i heard B,A, G#,F#,E - also E maj - G, C, D,E,D,C, B, riff, F# modulation to Gmaj?
vi-IV- iii - ii - IV I - IV-V vi-V-IV-iii - vii

The verse vocal lines include the notes B-C#-D#-E-F#-G#. Fits into the B major scale. But also E major
The chorus vocals are the same notes
The sax solo are the same notes plus an A# making it a B major scale
This seems to tell me the vocal are in B major

Ok, that will do, you really got me thinking/confused me on this one! huh.gif
Maybe ive over thought about it?

Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Apr 29 2012, 10:16 PM

No way man biggrin.gif it's SUPER AWESOME that you took things so deep smile.gif I'll come up with a detailed feedback tomorrow morning with the axe in hand, right now I want my pillow, badly smile.gif

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 1 2012, 09:38 AM

Alright Tim, so it took me a little longer than I thought, but these drills will serve well! smile.gif

So for the verse, we are having the A minor and the F major scales - Bb belongs to the F major indeed and the G7 and G7 sus4 belong to Am scale. They combined it in such a way that it made sense smile.gif

Try to play the chords on an acoustic guitar ans strum them, it'll make sense once you sing over them biggrin.gif this is how I usually work in order to understand what's happening there. The slash chords belong to A minor (derived from C major of course)

I would first ask you to try simple positions for the chords in order to make them sounds with the vocal lines smile.gif I am playing almost everything in the first 6 positions.

BUT.... biggrin.gif one more thing - the original recording is in Ab minor, so if you're not tuned down biggrin.gif here's where all the confusion came from tongue.gif I forgot to mention this.

Tune to Eb standard and everything will make sense - just checked the vocal lines as well and all the notes from the lines belong to Ab minor (B major as you said)

I think you nailed it right man smile.gif no confusion!

I haven't thought about the bridge yet smile.gif should we tackle that one?

Cosmin


Posted by: Timmy b May 2 2012, 08:36 AM

Hey Cosmin,
No probs with the delay. Thanks for a taking the time to help me!

The drop tuning makes sence now! Dont know how i missed that? huh.gif
i'll play around with the chords and struming to get a grasp of it better.

Guess we could have a look at the bridge section next, or we could move on to something else. Im pretty easy
Your call

Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 2 2012, 02:38 PM

Hey mate smile.gif let's finish this one first wink.gif I got a thing for finishing what I am beginning biggrin.gif

So here are the chords for the bridge:

C Bb Am
G7sus4 G F
G# C#/G# D# F
Fm D# C#
C7sus4 C7 Fm G

You chose a beautiful piece of music man, but with a lot of tricky harmonies biggrin.gif what can you discover here?

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b May 4 2012, 03:18 PM

Hey Cosmin,

Ive been on the road again, so i havnt been able to do my homework smile.gif
Its a great song but damn tricky indeed!

Ok, here goes

1st bit
C Bb Am Seems to be based on same as earlier in the song( Aminor+ Fmajor) Although differnt order. also still not to sure about
G7sus4 G F how major and minor keys work. Did it switch to C major? with D minor ? need more work/explanation in this area.
The vocals seem to be based around the Cmajor though. starts on G (V) and keeps returning to C ? maybe


2nd bit
G# C#/G# D# F Seems to modulate to G# major here (or Ab major depending how you work) i find the B# and double# anoying
Fm D# C# notes in vocals D#,G#,F ,C#,C, D# Starts on 5th again. also Fm and F maj?

This bit Not sure how the C7 fits or the G? the vocals are on the same melody is as before, except on last "whoa" where
C7sus4 C7 Fm G the extra D is used. Is this another case of two keys like before? Fmajor? In its relative minor Dminor would explain
the extra D, also the C7.

So whats the answer?

Ok, ive racked my brain over this one way too long and i still dont quite "get it" all. Think we'll have to revist it again down the line
Maybe we do an easier one next biggrin.gif

Tim

Posted by: Timmy b May 7 2012, 07:15 PM

Heya Cosmin

I was just reading back over the last post and realized that it wasnt posted the way i typed it, and for some reason it turned into a jumbled mess! My bad! So here's a here's a repost to make your life a little easier smile.gif

1st bit
C Bb Am
G7sus4 G F

Seems to be based on same as earlier in the song( Aminor+ Fmajor) Although differnt order. also still not to sure about
how major and minor keys work. Did it switch to C major? with D minor ? need more work/explanation in this area.
The vocals seem to be based around the Cmajor though. starts on G (V) and keeps returning to C ? maybe


2nd bit
G# C#/G# D# F

Seems to modulate to G# major here (or Ab major depending how you work) i find the B# and double# anoying
Fm D# C# notes in vocals D#,G#,F ,C#,C, D# Starts on 5th again. also Fm and F maj?

End bit
C7sus4 C7 Fm G

Not sure how the C7 fits or the G? the vocals are on the same melody is as before, except on last "whoa" where
the extra D is used. Is this another case of two keys like before? Fmajor? In its relative minor Dminor would explain
the extra D, also the C7.


Allright done! A little better

Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 8 2012, 05:58 PM

hey Tim! smile.gif thanks for the re-arrangement man!

This looks very good - I just checked everything and it seems legit man!

In the first part as you said the combo between C major and F major then modulating to that AWFUL G# major scale and toward the end they are in the key of F major (I took this because of the C7) and Fm is some sort of a pivoting note as it also appears in the context above, where the G# major scale is happening.

Man this was tricky indeed biggrin.gif what do you think, should we cool off with something easier? You choose the next out of the 5 you told me about wink.gif

How are you doing otherwise?

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b May 8 2012, 08:55 PM

Hey man

Good to know i was on the right (ish) path. It was really Tricky, started to mess with my head a little! laugh.gif
Definetly wanna try something simpler to get the concepts more concrete.

Heres one I prepared earlier tongue.gif

Everythings Ruined - FNM

Intro
piano is tricky to name chords. Notes are D, G, C#, B , E. the notes fit the D Major Scale like next bit. Bass notes G and E. extra notes 1 - 2 semitones, nice dissonance and tension! hmm

Next bit
G,B,A Chords. Harmonix are E, D, C#, B, G, A notes the C# + G combo only fit D Major.

Verse
Bass runs on the F# here. piano plays F#,A,E,D,C#,B. Vocals are G#,A,C#, but also G.
So this drops it in both D maj and A maj. Or is the in F# min (from Amaj) and The G is anacidental?

Pre Chorus Chords F#,E, A, B,C Vocals are( i Think) E, F#, G, A, But the end bit (Bouncing little baby) Uses a C#. Biut hard to tell.
But I think the C# is another accidental and This bit fits in Gmaj/Emin? Which One? or is the C# accidental?

Chorus
Chords D, A. Piano does full run of D maj scale. Vocals use them too. So D Maj modulation Here I think

Bridge Bit
F#, G, A Chords. F#, A, B, E, C. Thinking it fits with the pre chorus. or intro key ?????

Ok, turns out this isnt as simple as i thought it was. still leaves some questions unanswered. dry.gif

Im wondering if maybe you can pick the next track of your own choosing. something straight forward enough to really get confident with this stuff. but my choices are cool too, in case youve preped them already smile.gif


As for me, Keeping myself busy with my digital music studies. Really frustrated not being able to play much guitar though,its a real struggle. But At least the weather has warmed up! biggrin.gif Also im looking into some exercises to work on my right hand teqnuiques. any sugestions?

Hope your keeping well too. Also , if you get sick of doin these drills or dont have the time. feel free to change it to a different direction anytime!

Cheers mate!



Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 9 2012, 10:18 AM

Hey mate smile.gif I actually love these drills as they get my mind working as well biggrin.gif

I will inspect your work with the axe in my hand this evening when I get home and I shall also send recommendations in the right hand workout directions wink.gif

Cosmin

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 12 2012, 02:13 PM

Mate, I need a bit more time on this one, as I am not sure yet smile.gif I think it's trickier than the DT song laugh.gif or at least this is how it looks like to me. Will let you know after I dabble in it a bit more but in the mean time, so that we may not stall - here's a thing for both your right hand picking technique - Alternate picking that is wink.gif and some nice theoretical ideas.

I came up with this one after having to concoct something for the symphonic orchestra collaboration and it felt like it can be a great lesson for GMC as well - try it and let me know how it feels wink.gif

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Antonio-Vivaldi-Winter-Arpeggios/


Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b May 15 2012, 08:01 PM

Hey Cosmin,

All good, Whenever you figure it all out. And dont worry, there's no stalling. Im off Working in my digital music world, so im pretty busy with all that!
I love the lesson! Really like Vivaldi, but its too "busy" for my left hand. espesialy the pinkie. But i will analize the structure and chords though, looks interesting!

Good Luck With the track, catch you soon

Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 16 2012, 06:12 PM

Hey Tim smile.gif I don't necessarily want you to play it at that speed too soon smile.gif try to get it into your system and use it as a good warmup at lower speeds - it'll build up AP and left/ right hand coordination smile.gif

I'll be back about the Faith No More track wink.gif

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b May 25 2012, 09:33 AM

Hi Cosmin, Hows it going?

I was was just wondering how you were going with that FNM track? All good if you have'nt had the time to get to it, your a damn busy man!
But im getting a little restless and was hoping to work on somemore theory stuff again. The Vivaldi piece is great, but i just cant play guitar in that way at all. Even at low speeds my pinkie just isnt comfortable doing it.
So what do you think? Can we do some more drills when your time allows it?

Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 25 2012, 11:16 AM

Hey Tim! Sure, I'll get back to ya today with the FNM and we can choose the next to start with tongue.gif it's the end of the month and things cram up in this period usually biggrin.gif gimme a few hrs and I'll post new ideas and assignments wink.gif

Cosmin

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 26 2012, 01:32 PM

Tim...this one was a bit of a brain damage indeed laugh.gif

D major for the intro and the next bit - ye're right wink.gif

Ok, For the verse part - the F# belongs to D major and the G also so it's not accidental. The G goes over an E minor chord smile.gif which should be there, for that weird verse ending wink.gif

Now over the prechorus - I notice a combo of notes in the riff which dictate the F# blues pentatonic scale - the riff is built using the blue note as well - C in this case.

D major for the chorus biggrin.gif

The bridge fits with the pre-chorus indeed and it has the flavor of a Phrygian progression - F# Phrygian which has the parent scale - D major smile.gif

Sorry it took so long mate smile.gif now, let's pick an easier song and something for your fingers, alright?

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b May 27 2012, 12:24 PM

Hey Cosmin,
Thanks for that mate, Didnt mean to rush you or anything.
This answers those missing bits for me! Good to see i'm generally on the right track! smile.gif

What song next then? Should i work one out of our original list, or have you got something in mind?
As for the fingers, hopefully should have some answers about whats wrong with them them this week. Got a specialist vist that should give me an answer. So maybe we skip using it till i have an answer on it?

Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 27 2012, 04:51 PM

Hey Tim! Well, you take care of that issue man, wouldn't wanna hear anything bad happened to ya.. sad.gif

In the mean time, let's see, how about an easier one - Hysteria maybe? smile.gif It's on your list, so let me know if it works for ya wink.gif

If you think you need any, I have developed some exercises in little movies, which can be found in the GMC database. They deal with injury recuperation, warm-up routines and such smile.gif Check them out here: http://www.youtube.com/user/gmcguitar?ob=0

They are Called Guitar Biomechanics and Extreme Warmup smile.gif

Cosmin


Posted by: Timmy b May 28 2012, 11:26 AM

Hey Man,
Will def check out those vids, And yes, lets do hysteria. Apologies for the 80's ballad, I was having my 80's month at the time and this track just wouldnt get out of my head! tongue.gif

Ok here we go

Intro/Verse motif
Ok, based on the chords (maybe you can corect these names too smile.gif ) D add4 (no 5th) (D,F#,G) then Same chord with a G root(So is that Dadd4/G (no 5th) or Gmaj7 (no 3rd?) Than a Em add9 (E,B,F#,G) and back to the first chord
Vocals - D, B, E, A, F#, G So at the look of it a D Major fits But G major too

Pre chorus
Ok, based on the D, Dsus4, Cadd9, also A G6/B? (B,E,G,D) (chord in middle, couldnt quite catch it) and then finishes on C,G,D.
Vocals, D,G,E,D,B,A So I think G Major Fits here

Chorus
Straight forward Em, C, D chords Vocals F#,G,E,D,B,A, So G Major again

Solo
A,D,C# Chords Solo- E,F#,B,D,A,C# So this fits A Major and D Major too.

So to finish up, Pretty confident that most is in G Major. The Solo maybe the A major, as a 2 semitone key change is used sometimes.
So the Intro verse im not sure. Probably G major though.

Well, Whats the verdict then mate! look forward to it!

Cheers
Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jun 6 2012, 04:50 PM

Hey Tim!

The intro progression could be looked at as being a D Mixolidian progression so, G major is the parent scale tongue.gif

Everything is right - you can also look at the chorus progression as being an Aeolian progression (it starts on Em) I like spotting little modal progressions within progressions laugh.gif

I would go for D major on the solo, just for the easy transition between the D major and D mixolidian (simply playing C# instead of C) wink.gif

This one is easier for certain!

How are your hands man?

Cosmin


Posted by: Timmy b Jun 7 2012, 04:03 PM

Hi Cosmin,
Welcome Back! How was Poland? Im planing a trip across poland in the summer! Pretty Excited! laugh.gif

Thanks for the feedback. good to see im generaly on the right track with this stuff. Im not really good at and/or really understand entirely modal progressions. I'll have to work on them some more.

Same old story with the hand. No doctor can give me a definite diagnosis of whats wrong. I've got another appointment with a specialist in a couple weeks when im back in Germany. Hopefully he can figure it out. The theory now is that, its nothing really wrong with the hand, but more that there are problems further up my arm or in my back. Im progressivly getting more and more back pain latley, and we're thinking it could be a pinched or caught nerve causing all my troubles. A C8 nerve is the guess? Hope we can confirm something and start working on fixing it.
Will let you know when i know more, Start on some guitar again hopefully! That'll be sweet! smile.gif

Anyways, Whats next on the agenda? Do the last song on the list, or move to something else?

Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jun 9 2012, 02:12 PM

Hey Tim! Man, Poland was short and fast biggrin.gif if I may say so. The thing is, I went there with business and I didn't get to enjoy the scenery too much. But hey, I managed to create a 'next time' opportunity, which will allow me to walk around and see what's what over there.

In the mean time, it's getting busy over here as the festivals are coming and I got gigging with both bands biggrin.gif Mate, I wish you all the best with the hand issue and hope it's nothing too serious.

I noticed you are in 85-90% there with the theoretical stuff, which is very good! As for the modal progressions - don't worry! The more you get through them, the easier it will be to spot them and act accordingly wink.gif I say, let's finish what we started and then move on to other things - what's next on our list? wink.gif

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b Jun 11 2012, 10:04 AM

Hi Cosmin!
Its always good to create "excuses" to do return vists to cool places! I do it all the time tongue.gif Ive heard nothing but good things about Poland!
As for the hand, I have no worry over it at all. This is one of those things that will work out, Just needs time, patience and a bit of common sense to not make it worse. With the right advice and time it will be good again. If anything its been a blessing, as its forced me to pursue another musical direction i've always wanted to, but alway postponed!

Enough about me, how about some work smile.gif

Ok, these guys are the "hometown heroes" of my youth. they always played the summer festivals and really put on a great show.

West End Riot

Intro
the lead melody is in the G major scale CHords Em and B in the intro, then switchs to E,B,C,G power chords.
Theres a bit of an Eminor lick at the end of each melody line and the track starts on a Eminor so im thinkin this bits in the E minor Key

Verse
Starts on the Em Chord, Bass runs the E,B,C,G notes. Vocals follow the B,A,G,F,A. Not really a definite conclusion here, but im leaning towards the E minor Key again as before. The Track seems to lean that way.

PreChorus
A# and B chords in this short bit, vocals do the same thing. Sounds like a B7 chord ringing out right before the next bit.
Not really sure how this fits. If anything, it make a nice transition and adds tension/build to the chorus.

Chorus. Part 1
E,B,C,G power chords Then a D and Eb (Octaves or D and D with a flat 2nd added) Vocals follow esentially the same melody as the intro. I think the E minor key fits again. Except the Eb which is an accidental i guess.

Chorus Part 2
Bm, Em, C, G Chords Vocals are again within the E minor scale. Section ends with Am, Bm, C, D and Em chords also a nice E minor Pentatonic Lick. Again im thinking E minor key

Bridge
First bit is G and C chords Vocal, Roughly G, A B
2nd bit is A and D chords Vocals A, B, D
Not sure with these, is the Whole thing switched to G major as the relative major, or is it G major, then A major?
The bit rounds of into the solo with E,B,C,D Chords and i think a B7 again Back to E Minor here?

Solo
Bass Runs, G,F,Eb,D and then C,Eb,D,G, finishs on D and Eb, then does the E,B,C,G main bit again.
Guitar seems to be playing in G Minor. except for that stray F# near the start.
Im thinking a switch to the G minor key here

Breakdown
This bit is just a variation on the main verse theme in E Minor.
also G, A, Em chord trown in at the end.

Ok done! Damn that was heaps!
Seems pretty straight forward except for a couple of odd bits. E minor seems to be the Key.
I guess with a lot of rock arrangments, the "proper" formulas aren't always followed or even Known about. Giving us strange combinations!

Ok, 5 songs done! Where to next? The ball's in your court smile.gif

Tim

Posted by: Timmy b Jun 30 2012, 08:33 PM

Hey Cosmin!

Im back from the East! Was a hell of trip, but im back and all sobered up again ready to get to work!!!
So, where do we go from here?


Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jul 1 2012, 09:00 AM

Howdy man! Welcome biggrin.gif

Well, I will look over the song and see what's what and then, I was curious to see how your articulation skills are faring? smile.gif Are you a fan of bending/ vibrato and would you like to explore that region and all? Are you feeling better with that issue we talked about?

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b Jul 3 2012, 03:10 PM

Hi Cosmin
The hand seems to be improving and im also seeing my doctor this week to hopefully confirm and sort it all out. I think the time is right to start playing again at a light pace.
As for articulation, we did start on this right before my problem started. i was working on bens vibrato odyssey and also bens land of legato. So i might start up on them again. As for bending,im a big fan! I think i have pretty good bending skills. But as it sometimes happens, this dosent always end up being the case when its put under the microscope tongue.gif So should definetly do a bit of work on it!
Do you have anything else to suggest?

Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jul 10 2012, 03:43 PM

Hey Tim!

Let's see about the song:

Intro and verse are correct biggrin.gif

About the pre-chorus, the fact that we have an A# and B can be due to the fact that the A# ebelongs to the E blues scale which can be used in this context - it must be harmonized from there.

In the chorus, that Eb must be coming from the harmonic minor mode - good implementation biggrin.gif as it doesn't sound anything like that mode!

I also think that the bridge is a combo between the G major and A major - D can be used as a fourth in relation to G major so the transition is smooth.

Doesn't it seem MEGA FUNNY that we are breaking down a punk song? laugh.gif

The solo seems G minor to me as well, and that F# could be again that harmonic minor flavor like in the previous case smile.gif

Anyway, for a punk band, they seem to know some great deal of music biggrin.gif I enjoyed this!

So, moving a bit forward, bending and vibrato it is smile.gif I would like to suggest one of my lessons this time tongue.gif not to brag or something but i think I have encompassed a lot of tricky bends in here:

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/The-Voice-Of-Your-Guitar/

What say you?

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b Jul 11 2012, 08:36 AM

Hi Cosmin,
Thanks for the feedback. I never really realized we were breaking down a punk song! seems a bit weird now! But i always liked them cause they wernt just bashin away at random chords!

Ok, So im working on the vibrato and bend lessons already. Also ive already worked on your lesson before(and yes, it is good smile.gif ), so ill polish it up a little and send it back your way smile.gif
Also, with the lack of guitar playing the last couple months my finger tips aren't so tough anymore sad.gif So it may take a little longer to get this stuff sounding good. But we'll see.

Ok, Catch you soon
Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jul 13 2012, 11:34 AM

Alright Tim! Take care of the hands and in the mean time, let's see the take biggrin.gif

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b Jul 16 2012, 08:38 PM

Hi Cosmin!
Got one for ya! It took a million takes to get a decent one happening. The fingertips were pretty sore by the end of it!
Turns out im not as good at bending as i thought (kinda saw that coming!) I constantly had a flat or sharp bend here and there ruining the take.And getting the "feel" of it was a bit tricky too. seems to be a weak spot. Will probably revisit this one down the line. Oh and sorry about the tone, having trouble getting a good sound out if my gear.

Ok here it is, Enjoy

http://youtu.be/QlLe1jT3pvk

Cheers
Tim






Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jul 17 2012, 05:03 PM

QUOTE (Timmy b @ Jul 16 2012, 07:38 PM) *
Hi Cosmin!
Got one for ya! It took a million takes to get a decent one happening. The fingertips were pretty sore by the end of it!
Turns out im not as good at bending as i thought (kinda saw that coming!) I constantly had a flat or sharp bend here and there ruining the take.And getting the "feel" of it was a bit tricky too. seems to be a weak spot. Will probably revisit this one down the line. Oh and sorry about the tone, having trouble getting a good sound out if my gear.

Ok here it is, Enjoy

http://youtu.be/QlLe1jT3pvk

Cheers
Tim


Hey Tim! The vid is set to private smile.gif Can't watch till you decide to allow me tongue.gif

Posted by: Timmy b Jul 17 2012, 08:30 PM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Jul 17 2012, 04:03 PM) *
Hey Tim! The vid is set to private smile.gif Can't watch till you decide to allow me tongue.gif


My bad, Im ready to show it to the world now! smile.gif

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jul 18 2012, 08:12 AM

Howdy Tim! This is very very good! I would have only one thing to add smile.gif There are some mini bends in the first part which you omitted smile.gif Please listen to the original take closer and try to implement them too - as an example, check out min 00:04 wink.gif

Let's rock!

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b Jul 18 2012, 11:06 AM

Oh man ohmy.gif How did they go missing! By the last takes i was doing, i must have just forgoten about them somehow?

Well here it is again, went a lot smooter this time. those million or so take i did the other day really sunk it deep into me!

http://youtu.be/VkkoOcfDoB0


Also here's one more, did bens vibrato odyssey 1. This is a cool vibrato! one thats quite overlooked i think. will try to use it more and make it more natural.

http://youtu.be/I9IAhib82Ms


Ok, back to work for me

Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jul 19 2012, 10:30 AM

Hey Tim! That's it! biggrin.gif They're there now tongue.gif

Keep practicing it though biggrin.gif it's always a great tool for your bends and articulation in general! You could also add some delay in the mix wink.gif

As for the vibrato, you nailed it man smile.gif I think we should go through the whole series, aye? biggrin.gif It's good fun and exercise wink.gif

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b Jul 24 2012, 11:24 AM

Hey Cosmin

Cheers for the voicing charts from the video chat. Good Stuff!

Im workin on Bens vibrato and legato lessons and a couple of others i got, but they're all pretty slow going and just need time on a daily basis to get em better. So im looking for another random lessons to shake things up again like you've given in the past.
Got any Recomendations?
Cheers man, Catch you Thursday

Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jul 25 2012, 08:04 AM

Ahoy Tim!

Those are good stuff, so take your time to nail them perfect smile.gif

For fun....hmmmmmm, how about this one: http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/funk_lesson-saraceno_style/ it has all the good stuff tongue.gif

What do you think?

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b Jul 25 2012, 08:29 AM

Oh Man, Already done that one biggrin.gif Still workin on the groove though!

Also , while i've got your attention. Ive been working on the 7th chord voicings. Im quite familier to most of them, but ive never really used the ones with a 7b Bass. So they sound a little strange to my ears. Are they voicing that need to be used with care( ie,in certain situations?) or is it just me being unfamilier with em and need to get used to the sounds? Whats your thoughts?

Cheers Cosmin

Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jul 26 2012, 09:12 AM

Hey Tim! It's just something new smile.gif I never thought about using them in a certain situation - the idea is that you have to exercise them and try to get your ears acquainted with the sound - I know that in the case of the M7 they are a bit peculiar tongue.gif

We shall talk about it tonight at the v-chat biggrin.gif

Cosmin

PS: Shall we look for another fun lesson, then?

Posted by: Timmy b Jul 26 2012, 09:11 PM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Jul 26 2012, 08:12 AM) *
PS: Shall we look for another fun lesson, then?


For sure! Surprise me!! smile.gif

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jul 27 2012, 07:42 AM

Tim smile.gif Since you are working on articulation skills, I will throw a rather tricky ball in your court smile.gif

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/gary_moore_inspired_bending/

This here is a combo between, bends, vibrato and dynamics wink.gif There are a lot of subtleties which need to be taken care of, so shall we get to it? biggrin.gif

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b Jul 27 2012, 08:50 AM

Sure thing! Im on it!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jul 28 2012, 07:55 AM

Can't wait to see the way you will handle all the dynamics biggrin.gif

Posted by: Timmy b Aug 3 2012, 10:48 AM

Hi Cosmin

Well, its that time of year again for me. Summer is calling, so im signing off from my studies and heading off on my random travel/backpacking across europe. So guitar has to go on hold for a couple weeks unfortunatly.But dont worry, ill be back into it the second i get back smile.gif Probably 3 to 4 weeks from now though.
So catch you in a few weeks i guess. I'll probably drop into the forums every now and then just to keep in the loop smile.gif

Cya

Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Aug 4 2012, 04:17 PM

Alrighty Tim! You take good care of yourself and don't let the hands get lazy, ok?

Maybe you can hop in for the video chat sessions biggrin.gif

Anyway, I am here so, let me know when you get back or if you need anything in this period!

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b Aug 25 2012, 05:03 PM

Hello Cosmin!

Well, im back from my travels! Saw some cool places! Met some great people! Ate pleanty of awesome food! But now its back to work!
I'll get back into my usual routines again and start doing some recs again!
How are you going? Anything exciting that i missed around here? I never had a chance to get on GMC the whole trip!
Its good to be back though! smile.gif

Tim

Posted by: korblitz Aug 25 2012, 05:18 PM

I'm curious about your travels. I hope you travel to Spain is nice. Like fine wine. Hey, welcome back.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Aug 26 2012, 11:45 AM

Howdy Tim! Welcome back mate biggrin.gif Glad to hear the trip was great! Hope you ate everything and then some more laugh.gif

Well, everything is great around here, so get back to work and let's see what you'll be dealing with first, aye?


Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b Aug 29 2012, 10:13 AM


Hey Cosmin
Quick question, I just remembered in the last video chat i did with you a few weeks ago, you mentioned a few vocal techniques/methods breifly. And if i remember correctly a thread was going to be stared. So just curious if that ended up happening as I was quite interested in the topic

Thanks
Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Aug 29 2012, 12:04 PM

QUOTE (Timmy b @ Aug 29 2012, 09:13 AM) *
Hey Cosmin
Quick question, I just remembered in the last video chat i did with you a few weeks ago, you mentioned a few vocal techniques/methods breifly. And if i remember correctly a thread was going to be stared. So just curious if that ended up happening as I was quite interested in the topic

Thanks
Tim


Howdy Tim! How's practicing so far? biggrin.gif Well, the thread is in the making man biggrin.gif Will be up pretty soon. There's a lot of info to be featured and I would like to have it sorted out in a logical approach first!

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b Aug 30 2012, 10:28 AM

QUOTE (korblitz @ Aug 25 2012, 04:18 PM) *
I'm curious about your travels. I hope you travel to Spain is nice. Like fine wine. Hey, welcome back.


Hi Korbiltz!
Thanks for the curiosity! Unfortunatly spain didnt fit into my plans (again!) One day it will happen! really looking forward to it smile.gif I went east and south this year. First stop was a friend mountain hut in Swizerland. Incredible! Then Went through Bavaria visiting the girlfriends relatives, then the czech republic to visit mine. Down through Bratislava, Vienna and Budapest! My GF had never been out there, so was awesome! Romania and Serbia were on the list as my Brother lives in Romania, but due to his work then holiday scheduele changing it didnt end up happening. So, a stop at lake Balaton, Hungary (GF's Grandfather) Then on through Zagreb Croatia and Ljubljana Slovenia, Cool new countrys for me biggrin.gif Then a long night train to germany sad.gif

Hopefuly you find this

Tim

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Aug 29 2012, 11:04 AM) *
Howdy Tim! How's practicing so far? biggrin.gif Well, the thread is in the making man biggrin.gif Will be up pretty soon. There's a lot of info to be featured and I would like to have it sorted out in a logical approach first!

Cosmin


Hi Cosmin,
Practice is going well, Doing a lot on the nylon string to get back in the flow. Also organising the next step of my life. (moving again) So thats eating a lot of time too.
I didnt mean to pressure you about the thread! Just popped into my mind and i couldnt find it anywhere. When your ready smile.gif
Ok, back to work. Hope to have some material ready soon!

Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Aug 30 2012, 10:35 AM

QUOTE (Timmy b @ Aug 30 2012, 09:28 AM) *
Hi Korbiltz!
Thanks for the curiosity! Unfortunatly spain didnt fit into my plans (again!) One day it will happen! really looking forward to it smile.gif I went east and south this year. First stop was a friend mountain hut in Swizerland. Incredible! Then Went through Bavaria visiting the girlfriends relatives, then the czech republic to visit mine. Down through Bratislava, Vienna and Budapest! My GF had never been out there, so was awesome! Romania and Serbia were on the list as my Brother lives in Romania, but due to his work then holiday scheduele changing it didnt end up happening. So, a stop at lake Balaton, Hungary (GF's Grandfather) Then on through Zagreb Croatia and Ljubljana Slovenia, Cool new countrys for me biggrin.gif Then a long night train to germany sad.gif

Hopefuly you find this

Tim



Hi Cosmin,
Practice is going well, Doing a lot on the nylon string to get back in the flow. Also organising the next step of my life. (moving again) So thats eating a lot of time too.
I didnt mean to pressure you about the thread! Just popped into my mind and i couldnt find it anywhere. When your ready smile.gif
Ok, back to work. Hope to have some material ready soon!

Tim


No worries mate wink.gif No pressure taken! Please let me know in which way I can assist you and we'll be on it smile.gif In the mean time, I'm looking forward to your vid

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b Sep 3 2012, 12:15 PM

Hiya Cosmin

Ive got a video for you! Unfortunatly its not one that you gave me. Need a little more time with them.
This one was on my practice list for a long time, so i thought it was time to unleash it! Enjoy!

http://youtu.be/EXvVrq1xsEo

Tim

Posted by: Timmy b Sep 3 2012, 05:31 PM

Hi Cosmin

Im having trouble with my "homework" The issue is changing the melodys notes. I think im understand the concept of changing the scale to another mode, its just the melody seems trickier to change. espesially with certain scales where lots of notes change. So im not sure sometimes which note to pick(up or down). Hmm this is harder to explain than i thought.
Any tips? It would be much appreciated

Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 4 2012, 01:58 PM

QUOTE (Timmy b @ Sep 3 2012, 11:15 AM) *
Hiya Cosmin

Ive got a video for you! Unfortunatly its not one that you gave me. Need a little more time with them.
This one was on my practice list for a long time, so i thought it was time to unleash it! Enjoy!

http://youtu.be/EXvVrq1xsEo

Tim


Hey Tim! I think it sounded great man! You have a very relaxed style of playing and it offers flow to all your takes smile.gif What it could use, would be a bit more percussive picking at times, more definition somehow, but just in some spots!

Anyway, this is a little detail - try and be more percussive and it will be just awesome! biggrin.gif

QUOTE (Timmy b @ Sep 3 2012, 04:31 PM) *
Hi Cosmin

Im having trouble with my "homework" The issue is changing the melodys notes. I think im understand the concept of changing the scale to another mode, its just the melody seems trickier to change. espesially with certain scales where lots of notes change. So im not sure sometimes which note to pick(up or down). Hmm this is harder to explain than i thought.
Any tips? It would be much appreciated

Tim


I understand perfectly wink.gif Sometimes, when the melody is TOO far fetched by changing ALL the necessary notes to use ONLY that mode which you are trying to emphasize - improvise a bit just to offer the melody a normal course wink.gif It's a bit of steeling tongue.gif As I like to call it wink.gif

Posted by: Timmy b Sep 7 2012, 04:08 PM

Heya Cosmin,
Im looking for something new to do. I need more time with bens, Legato and vibrato lessons to really get the technuique right. and the Gary moore lesson is great, but my fingers have gone soft on me from my recent downtime. Those bends start to hurt a bit smile.gif

I really enjoy lastnights video chat and it made me realise that i havnt really done much rhythm guitar stuff here at GMC. So im thinking of going in that direction for a little bit just to mix things up a bit. I was looking at maybe your metal metrics lessons, or do you have any others to recomend?
What do you think?

Cheers
Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 8 2012, 01:47 PM

Howdy Tim!

Thank you! I had a lot of fun at the v-chat myself biggrin.gif and of course, I would be honored if you would like to start working on those biggrin.gif

I suggest we start with the Breaking Benjamin style lesson: http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Breaking-Benjamin-Style/

It's got the simplest elements and then continue with Metal Metrics 4, what say you?

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b Sep 8 2012, 02:12 PM

Hey Cosmin

Sounds good mate! I'll get right on it!

Got a rec of your riffs done. The rec program is starting to bug me because its constantly bringing up problems with my playing! dry.gif Annoying, But in the long run its a great thing!
Im not really used to playing in these low tunings so, im not quite used to the string tensions. Stuff sounds a little sloppy sometimes, so 170 was as high as could it and still sound resonably good. Ill work on it more and push it higher!


http://youtu.be/Q5-OyBlQoUI

Cheers








Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 8 2012, 02:44 PM

Hey Tim! Great tightness man! I like it, but towards the late part of the groove you messed things up a bit! biggrin.gif I will record the whole thing and post it on YT for you in a few hours, ok? And one more thing - when the breakdown starts, use your right hand to mute and stop the strings rather than playing staccato - it will allow the chords to ring a bit while palm muted, offering that heaviness!

Good work mate!

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b Sep 8 2012, 02:57 PM

Thanks man, Yeah that end bit was a bit sketchy. I couldnt quite remember it from the other night. I'll check out your vid and see if we can get things sounding better!

Tim

Posted by: Timmy b Sep 9 2012, 10:32 AM

Hey Cosmin,
I've got the Breaking Benjamin Lesson for you. It was really fun, I really enjoyed it! smile.gif
I had to do the video/recording in a couple takes though. I dont have a good way to switch clean to dirty atm

http://youtu.be/Loh5jOi8_Ok

Ill get to work on the metal metrics

Also, the v-chat yesterday was great! That track turned out great! It was interesting to to see different players approachs to the process!

Tim







Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 9 2012, 03:19 PM

Hey Tim! Nice one mate! I like the way you approached it with the pick instead of fingers tongue.gif I usually play that theme with the fingers, in the beginning.

Now, here are some links to some goody good stuff for ya biggrin.gif

https://rapidshare.com/files/3328228322/MVI_0704.MOV
https://rapidshare.com/files/1891776005/MVI_0706.MOV

The ball is in yer court wink.gif

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b Sep 9 2012, 10:32 PM

Thanks for the videos man! I was way off last time! blink.gif
Anyway, I reviewed the vids and made some adjustments. Sorry about the video quality, my webcam's having a bad day or something?

I used a Pick on that intro bit before without really thinking.It felt comfy. I didnt even realise you fingerpicked it!

Anyway, here we go again

http://youtu.be/7Zx-ZsRfSfg

Tim






Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 10 2012, 06:45 AM

WOW! biggrin.gif

Congrats man! This is great! Listen, Tim, I want to make an example out of you and start a little thread showing this video to the rest of the community, do you agree? smile.gif I think your take on this riff is top notch man!

Posted by: Timmy b Sep 10 2012, 07:56 AM

Wow! Thanks for the kind words man! smile.gif

And sure thing with a new thread, go for it

Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 10 2012, 08:00 AM

Right away!

Here you go mate biggrin.gif Congrats once again!

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=45963

Posted by: Timmy b Sep 10 2012, 12:46 PM

Hey Cosmin!

Me again, Ive been a busy boy latley! Got one more video for you. Its one bad ass riff! smile.gif How do you think this one went? those harmonics were tricky to get. I'm gonna work on getting a better tone for future vids, its not quite right yet.
Anyway where to next? Some more metal metrics or did you have othere plans?

http://youtu.be/dpd-GvzE6uw

Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 11 2012, 09:13 AM

Hey Tim - go for the whole bunch biggrin.gif I am incredibly curious to see how you fare with it!

For this one - the vibrato should be wider and more aggressive (use more fingers when you vibrate - one will not do the trick)!

BTW - congrats - the microbends and bends are technically correct and in groove - very, very well done!

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b Sep 16 2012, 06:45 PM

Hey Cosmin

Ok, guess we'll start the new week breaking down some songs again. How about some random music from your side this time to get me out of my comfort zone smile.gif Or whatever you see fit

Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 17 2012, 07:07 AM

Howdy Tim! So smile.gif It's my turn to propose a list, eh?

Ok then! Here we go:







Let's start with these three biggrin.gif Take your time and we'll talk as you go through each one, deal?

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b Sep 17 2012, 10:32 AM

Allright man, I'll get to work on the finish folk song first

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 18 2012, 08:19 AM

biggrin.gif I love that one! Now tell me man, is this sufficiently out of your comfort zone? biggrin.gif

Posted by: Timmy b Oct 1 2012, 10:51 AM

Cosmin!

Hey man, Sorry for the lack of work, its been a crazy couple of weeks and just had no time to get anything done. But its all calm again now, so time to work. Oh, and yes this stuff is WELL out of my comfort zone!

Ok, Finnish folk song

Heres the breakdown of the song. The melody lines are roughly maped out.

Part 1
C#, C#, D#, E, E, B, C#
E ,E ,D#, E, D#, E, F#, E, D#, E, D#, B, C#, C#

Used Notes: C#,D#, F,F#,G#. So Either E Major or B Major at this point

Part 2 from 1:24
C#, G#, G#, F#, G#, F#, E, E,
E,E, F#, G#, F#, G#, G#, F#, E , F#, E, B, C#, C#
With a few variations on this on, Was a bit tricky!
Has an added G# on the note before. A couple variations added an A# (I think) Making this now fit with the B Major

Part 3 from 2:16
C#, D#, E, F#, F# F#, E, D#, E, E
C#, D#, E, F#, F# F#, E, D#,C#, C#
again, a few variations but woring with the same notes as before.

Part 4 from 2:56
G#, F#, E, F#, F#, E, F#, G#, F#, E, F#, F#
G#, F#, E, F#, F#, E, D#, C#, C#
Again variations,but still working within the same notes

OK, overall i found the melodies relativley simple, but they had a lot of small variations and subltleties to make it tricky.

Well Im thinking This song is in B Major. The notes point to bot E and B Major, but the A note was the deciding factor and I think it was an A# in the 2nd Section

Also, would it be correct to say it was in C# Dorian as the parts mostly stated and returned to C#? And would the last section be diiferent also as it started on the G#? Im not too sure on this stuff.

Ok Done! Sorry for the delay. Ill be more dilligent on my homeworks smile.gif Ill work on Human nature next.

Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Oct 1 2012, 03:21 PM

Mate, I have listened to it and tried the A# but I can't hear it. I will try more to see if I am being wrong but if we only have the A, we are clearly dealing with the C# minor tonality smile.gif Will let you know of what I discover. The rest is fine and dandy biggrin.gif Let's go for Michael Jackson then wink.gif

How are you feeling man?

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b Oct 4 2012, 08:05 PM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Oct 1 2012, 04:21 PM) *
Mate, I have listened to it and tried the A# but I can't hear it. I will try more to see if I am being wrong but if we only have the A, we are clearly dealing with the C# minor tonality smile.gif Will let you know of what I discover. The rest is fine and dandy biggrin.gif Let's go for Michael Jackson then wink.gif

How are you feeling man?

Cosmin



Hi Cosmin,
Im good man, keeping pleanty busy. Not enjoying the incoming autumn weather though mellow.gif
As for that "A" note, like i said, i thought i heard it there. but as im not to familiar with breaking down this style of music, it was tricky to catch everything.
Ok, time for Michael Jackson. ( which is now repeating over and over in my head!) Damn!!

Intro
The main theme of the songs. includes bits of the verse and chorus.
Uses Notes: A,B,C#,D,E,F# and i think a G
So puts up in the D Major scale

The Synth bit thingy
synth uses the notes: D, C#, A then C, B, G. The Bass does G, A, F, E
I didnt quite get this bit, I think it changes to a CMajor scale for this bit.
I'll come back to it in the end and explain it further.

Verse section
A main part of the song. Bass does G, A, F#, G Guitar does a simmilar bit like the intro, minus the F# melody(which is the chorus)
So im thinking still D Major

Chorus
Bass does notes: B, C#, F#, E, D. Vocals do the same but with an added A note
Again it fits the D major (minus the G)

Solo
Basicly a section with a verse and a chorus + and extended ending

Outro
This bit was tricky too. Starts with the same synth bit as earlier, but thenchanges.
Synth does notes combos of: F,C,E - C,G,B then sits on a A,F,G motif and the bass seems to sit on an A
guitar licks also seem to fit in these notes, along with the missing D note
So im thinking this bit(along with the earlier part) switchs to the C Major scale and at the end maybe changes to the A minor??
the only thing not fiting is the C# (from the first bit) so im thinking an acidental.


So overall the song is in Dmajor ( could it be maybe B minor tonality?) still not sure on this stuff
and the synth bits seem to be C major and also A minor

phew! done!
So what do you think??

Hope all is well in your world, and I'll get to work on the next track

Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Oct 10 2012, 03:22 PM

Hey man! Didn't forget about ya! Just wanna get past the Aria video shooting sessions and on Friday I'll write my observations on this song wink.gif

Cheers and thanks!

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b Oct 10 2012, 06:15 PM

All good mate, your a busy man! Good luck with the video shoot! Sounds like fun!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Oct 10 2012, 09:24 PM

Thanks Tim! It is, it is! Check this out tongue.gif



Posted by: Timmy b Oct 11 2012, 08:31 AM

Awesome!! smile.gif

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Oct 16 2012, 09:48 PM

hey Tim!

Just went through the thing myself and i think you are right smile.gif I'm not that sure about the stuff at the end either, but I'll try and check it out with 'cleaner' ears. This whole record releasing/ video and stuff is taking its toll on me.

The chorus harmony is Em A Dmaj Em I think (singing along with the chords and it seems to fit fine)

How's the next one coming along?

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b Oct 19 2012, 09:06 AM

Hey Cosmin,

All good mate, your work should definetly come first. PLus these song breakdowns are quite time consuming too, after the next one of got a new topic in mind. Ill get the next song done on monday as im away for the weekend.
Also, I dont have my usual computer this week so the video chat just didnt workout yesterday. This computer is from the stone age, i swear!
But def next week!

Cheers mate, catch you soon

Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Oct 19 2012, 10:18 AM

Hey Tim! We had a lot of fun with Pantera's 'I'm broken'! Well, next time, then smile.gif

I'll be around wink.gif

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b Oct 22 2012, 10:34 AM

Hi Cosmin

Got the lucky last one done!

Superstition - Stevie Wonder

Verse
Built on a bass of Eb with a Gb on the end
Guitar has a repeated riff using Ab, Bb, Db, Eb, Gb
Vocals work around Ab, Bb, Db, Eb, Gb
Brass A repeated motif of Ab, Bb, Db, Eb, Gb and also an A
The A fits to the Eb blues scale

The Db and Gb major scales both fit
but i think it fits best With the Eb minor scale

Chorus
Bass does Bb, Cb, Bb, A, Ab
Guitar does something similar
Vocals Work around F, Gb, Ab, Bb, Db, Eb

The added Cb and F in this part reinforce the Gbmajor/Ebminor
Tonality. The added A fits with the Eb Blues scale


There is also a brass part after the chorus.
It plays Eb, Db, C, Bb, Eb
It plays over the verse section and im just not sure
how the C fits. An acidental maybe??

The Rest of the piece basicly repeat the main parts. And jeff throws in a few sweet solos!

So im thinking Eb minor for this track

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Nov 1 2012, 06:10 PM

Yeppers! Eb minor it is mate! Regarding the C, I think it's just a passing tone somehow, as I can't find another way to link it to something else.

Tell me Tim, are you ready for some action? Or are your hands still troubling you?

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b Nov 1 2012, 11:18 PM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Nov 1 2012, 06:10 PM) *
Yeppers! Eb minor it is mate! Regarding the C, I think it's just a passing tone somehow, as I can't find another way to link it to something else.

Tell me Tim, are you ready for some action? Or are your hands still troubling you?

Cosmin


Sweet! Good to see im getting this stuff right! biggrin.gif

Like i said earlier, the hand is still out of order. so im not sure what next.
The video chat was interesting. Kinda caught me off gaurd,I was a bit smug like " yeah, I know all this stuff! pulled me back down to earth a bit tongue.gif
I know the Circle of 5ths well , but as we saw at the end I was "caught in the headlights kinda" just dumbfounded with the last bit. seems silly knowing the circle, but then not being able to use it practicaly. Thats also why i said I know it in "theory" as i havnt really learned to use it well. Maybe after your next video chat, if im still not completly on top of it we can look into it a little more.

As for the "last bit of the chat" Ive stared long and hard at the circle and think ive found what you were talking about. I discovered a pattern around the Key Note. all the notes that belong to its major scale are directley around it ina set pattern and works the same way regardless of key. I also see the patern for the Maj pentatonic scale. I really like these discoveries/realizations, such a cool feeling! smile.gif
I hope thats what you were talking about!

So what do you think? Do you have any ideas on what we can do next??

Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Nov 2 2012, 01:35 PM

QUOTE (Timmy b @ Nov 1 2012, 10:18 PM) *
Sweet! Good to see im getting this stuff right! biggrin.gif

Like i said earlier, the hand is still out of order. so im not sure what next.
The video chat was interesting. Kinda caught me off gaurd,I was a bit smug like " yeah, I know all this stuff! pulled me back down to earth a bit tongue.gif
I know the Circle of 5ths well , but as we saw at the end I was "caught in the headlights kinda" just dumbfounded with the last bit. seems silly knowing the circle, but then not being able to use it practicaly. Thats also why i said I know it in "theory" as i havnt really learned to use it well. Maybe after your next video chat, if im still not completly on top of it we can look into it a little more.

As for the "last bit of the chat" Ive stared long and hard at the circle and think ive found what you were talking about. I discovered a pattern around the Key Note. all the notes that belong to its major scale are directley around it ina set pattern and works the same way regardless of key. I also see the patern for the Maj pentatonic scale. I really like these discoveries/realizations, such a cool feeling! smile.gif
I hope thats what you were talking about!

So what do you think? Do you have any ideas on what we can do next??

Tim


That's exactly the thing mate biggrin.gif

Now, I got something for ya - based on what we have discussed last evening, analyze the circle and discover 2 things on your own smile.gif You can virtually try ANYTHING at all with the circle. Let's share impressions about it!

And if you feel like it, we can try and figure out a way for you to play the guitar in a less conventional way, that would not hurt you. Or we could talk about using a DAW smile.gif biggrin.gif

You choose mate!

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b Nov 3 2012, 08:36 PM

Hey Cosmin,

So Ive looked it up and down (and around) and made a few observations.
1- The inside notes (minors) are the same notes + order as the outside. just rotated 90 degres. plus b's turned to sharps.
2- The minor notes are also the 3rd of the previos (c/clockwise) major note. I like to start on C (or other notes) and work through the major triads all the way around! only you need to make the F# a Gb to make it just right smile.gif
3- think you talked about this in the chat, in scales with flats the 4th always becomes the new flat. also the 7th degree becomes the next scales new (4th) flat note. In sharps, the 7th becomes the new sharp, and th 4th becomes the new next scales new (7th) sharp. they mirror each other!

Guess we could try some guitar again. what di you have in mind!
Also the DAW idea isnt bad either, what could we do? Im curious what DAW you use?

Cheers
Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Nov 4 2012, 01:53 PM

NICEEEE!! Great man! If you don't mind, I will also use your discoveries next Thursday and let everyone know you took things seriously and discovered them!

About some guitaring, well, what do you feel like working on - lead or rhythm? smile.gif

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b Nov 4 2012, 07:28 PM

No problem mate, go for it!

As for guitar, im thinking rhythm. Think it will be less taxing on the pinkie. what have you got for me!

Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Nov 5 2012, 05:27 PM

Thanks Tim! Alrightie! Mate, I think I got an idea smile.gif

Why not focusing on being able to play using only three fingers, so that you won't neglect your practicing because of the pinkie?

Until further developing this idea, how about this lesson for a goodie good start? -> http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Kotzen-Meets-Wylde/ No pinkie involved !! biggrin.gif

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b Nov 5 2012, 06:06 PM

Nice one! I'll start picking away at it!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Nov 6 2012, 09:20 AM

QUOTE (Timmy b @ Nov 5 2012, 05:06 PM) *
Nice one! I'll start picking away at it!


Great! What do you think of my idea, Tim? smile.gif

Posted by: Timmy b Nov 6 2012, 09:47 AM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Nov 6 2012, 09:20 AM) *
Great! What do you think of my idea, Tim? smile.gif


Yeah, sounds good mate! We can definetly trying using just the 3 fingers. hopefully it wont cause any issues.
Its going to be tricky though. Im just so used to using my pinkie in my playing, that im constantly using it! Will have to slow it all right down and concentrete on only the other ones.

Im curious what else youve got lined up for me!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Nov 7 2012, 07:52 AM

QUOTE (Timmy b @ Nov 6 2012, 08:47 AM) *
Yeah, sounds good mate! We can definetly trying using just the 3 fingers. hopefully it wont cause any issues.
Its going to be tricky though. Im just so used to using my pinkie in my playing, that im constantly using it! Will have to slow it all right down and concentrete on only the other ones.

Im curious what else youve got lined up for me!


Hey there Tim! Good approach mate! Go for it wink.gif Now, my idea is to find as many lessons based on 3 fingers rather than 4 - Mate's are usually like this since he is a Zakk Wylde fan biggrin.gif

There will also be challenges, meaning that we will sometimes aim to transform some positions in order to make them playable with only 3 fingers smile.gif I won't let you down man! I really want to see you evolve and we have to find the right way to adapt to what's going on with you in this moment!

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b Nov 7 2012, 09:37 AM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Nov 7 2012, 07:52 AM) *
Hey there Tim! Good approach mate! Go for it wink.gif Now, my idea is to find as many lessons based on 3 fingers rather than 4 - Mate's are usually like this since he is a Zakk Wylde fan biggrin.gif

There will also be challenges, meaning that we will sometimes aim to transform some positions in order to make them playable with only 3 fingers smile.gif I won't let you down man! I really want to see you evolve and we have to find the right way to adapt to what's going on with you in this moment!

Cosmin


Thanks Cosmin! Really appriciate the time and effort your putting in! Sounds like a plan smile.gif

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Nov 8 2012, 04:09 PM

wink.gif Always here to help mate! Let's see how this first mission goes!

Posted by: Timmy b Nov 15 2012, 10:47 PM

Hiya Cosmin

Thought id give you a status update

The lesson is coming along nicely. Got all the teqnuique down and now im just building up the tempo. Cant get it sounding clean enough yet.
Also thought id mention that im working on some other lessons on the side. Dont worry they're simple ones! They are the right hand basics lessons from Danillo Capezzuto. Theyre just simple alt picking excercies that only need 2 fingers and my alt picking isnt the best, so it fits just right for now! Otherwise slow and steady for me.

It was intersting to see everyone strugling with the circle of 5ths in the vid chat tonight. reminds me of when I totally strugled with the circles and scales. (wasnt that long ago!) Its nice to realise the progress one has made. I think that learning it well is just a matter time and persistance. One day it just clicks!

Allright, ive rambled on enough, Hope your well mate. and hope to have a rec up for you soon!

Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Nov 17 2012, 02:59 PM

Hey Tim! Glad to hear your are pushing it a bit wink.gif Don't force your hand though!

Anyway, I am also happy to see that it clicked - I know your were holding back in the chat, when I asked questions biggrin.gif I have a 16 year old student here in Bucharest - he is preparing in maths in highschool and he is darn good at it. I observed that an organized mind, especially one that has studied science related subjects can make the best out of music theory almost instantaneously - the same with this kid. I explained the circle and stuff we've been talking about in the last 3 sessions and he grasped it on the spot smile.gif

Well, each mind functions differently, but it's interesting to see what's going on with people - the next session will be nasty as well laugh.gif

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b Nov 22 2012, 12:16 AM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Nov 17 2012, 02:59 PM) *
Hey Tim! Glad to hear your are pushing it a bit wink.gif Don't force your hand though!

Anyway, I am also happy to see that it clicked - I know your were holding back in the chat, when I asked questions biggrin.gif I have a 16 year old student here in Bucharest - he is preparing in maths in highschool and he is darn good at it. I observed that an organized mind, especially one that has studied science related subjects can make the best out of music theory almost instantaneously - the same with this kid. I explained the circle and stuff we've been talking about in the last 3 sessions and he grasped it on the spot smile.gif

Well, each mind functions differently, but it's interesting to see what's going on with people - the next session will be nasty as well laugh.gif

Cosmin


Hi Cosmin,

How we doin? I got a Vid done for you! Its not quite perfect yet (and the video is crummy), But ive been trying everyday to nail a perfect one but it just aint happening. This is the best i can get at this stage. Needs a bit more time to sink in I think.
The teqnuique is really cool! Will definetly do some more of it!

And dont worry, Im not pushing my playing to hard. latley im only playing max 30 mins a day. dont want to cause any more problems!

Thats really interesting with your student too! Its interesting how different minds grasp concepts and theories.

Allright, see what you think



Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Nov 22 2012, 10:31 AM


I think you are a grooving rock machine! biggrin.gif NICE MAN! REALLY NICE!

Groove, articulation and tone! I like it - how about a REC? This one has a slight timing glitch, but it's not actually about timing, you got out of the great groove a tiny bit in the beginning, that's all biggrin.gif

Great playing man!

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b Nov 22 2012, 11:03 AM

Thanks Man!
Yeah, the timming was a bit tricky in the beggining bit. The tempo was just out of my comfortable playing zone.
A REC sounds good! We can use this one, or i can take another stab at in a few days. see if its settled in better. what do you think?

Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Nov 24 2012, 10:01 AM

Hey Tim! Guess u could try another, but only if you want to smile.gif This one goes very well!

Posted by: Timmy b Nov 24 2012, 11:29 AM

Hey Cosmin

Go with this version, after listening to it again it isnt too bad.
So, whats next on the agenda then?

Tim

Posted by: mroberts70 Nov 24 2012, 04:32 PM

QUOTE (Timmy b @ Nov 21 2012, 11:16 PM) *
Hi Cosmin,

How we doin? I got a Vid done for you! Its not quite perfect yet (and the video is crummy), But ive been trying everyday to nail a perfect one but it just aint happening. This is the best i can get at this stage. Needs a bit more time to sink in I think.
The teqnuique is really cool! Will definetly do some more of it!

And dont worry, Im not pushing my playing to hard. latley im only playing max 30 mins a day. dont want to cause any more problems!

Thats really interesting with your student too! Its interesting how different minds grasp concepts and theories.

Allright, see what you think



Tim


Tim, hope you don't mind me eves dropping in your forum... but that was straight up AWESOME! I like following you as well as some of the other guys on here for my own inspiration on playing. At times I think about putting the guitar down, but I like to go see everyone playing and it makes me want to pick it up again. Couldn't tell you were having any pinky finger issues here man. Again, AWESOME Tim!!!

Posted by: Timmy b Nov 25 2012, 09:44 PM

QUOTE (mroberts70 @ Nov 24 2012, 04:32 PM) *
Tim, hope you don't mind me eves dropping in your forum... but that was straight up AWESOME! I like following you as well as some of the other guys on here for my own inspiration on playing. At times I think about putting the guitar down, but I like to go see everyone playing and it makes me want to pick it up again. Couldn't tell you were having any pinky finger issues here man. Again, AWESOME Tim!!!


No problem mate! Thanks very much for your kind words! I check out other peoples vids sometimes too. Its good to see other peoples progress to inspire you to make progress too! As for the Pinkie, Well the troubles still there, im just learning not to use it anymore till it gets better.
Thanks again!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Nov 26 2012, 12:23 AM

Howdy Tim!

This one is totally groovy and it can be done without the pinky biggrin.gif

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/ZZ-Top-Fingerpicked-1/

What do you say mate?

Cosmin

Posted by: mroberts70 Nov 26 2012, 01:12 AM

QUOTE (Timmy b @ Sep 10 2012, 11:46 AM) *
Hey Cosmin!

Me again, Ive been a busy boy latley! Got one more video for you. Its one bad ass riff! smile.gif How do you think this one went? those harmonics were tricky to get. I'm gonna work on getting a better tone for future vids, its not quite right yet.
Anyway where to next? Some more metal metrics or did you have othere plans?

http://youtu.be/dpd-GvzE6uw

Tim


WOW Tim! That was top notch man!!! AWESOME!

Posted by: Timmy b Nov 26 2012, 09:29 AM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Nov 26 2012, 12:23 AM) *
Howdy Tim!

This one is totally groovy and it can be done without the pinky biggrin.gif

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/ZZ-Top-Fingerpicked-1/

What do you say mate?

Cosmin


Sounds Great! Im on it!

Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Nov 26 2012, 10:37 AM

QUOTE (Timmy b @ Nov 26 2012, 08:29 AM) *
Sounds Great! Im on it!

Tim


Uber awesome! biggrin.gif

Posted by: Timmy b Nov 28 2012, 06:05 PM

Hi Cosmin,

Lessons comming along nicley. But ive got another question for you today.
Its about Modal chord progressions, you touched on it a little during your circle of 5ths lessons. Im just not grasping the concept of them, esspesially transposing them to other keys/modes.Guess ive never learned about them properly. Wondering if we could spend a bit of time on the topic to get my understanding up to speed.

Thanks Mate

Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Nov 29 2012, 10:00 AM

Hey Tim! Sure thing man smile.gif

Let me start with a question - do you know how to build a modal progression?

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b Nov 29 2012, 10:12 AM

Hmm good question,
Not with a lot of confidence I guess. I think this may me where the problem lays. I do understand the concept of mode and how they are constructed, But havnt really linked it all together.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Nov 29 2012, 10:41 AM

Mate, I got a homework for ya smile.gif How about this?

Please read this http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=39243&view=findpost&p=564197

The idea is the following: you first deduce a mode by applying its formula over a major scale - the parent scale.

Then, you harmonize the mode just like you would do with the parent scale and you got chords. Now You consider the first chord as being the 1st degree of THAT mode smile.gif one option is that when you start a chord progression with THAT chord - presto you have a modal progression. Check out the examples in each post about each mode in the link above wink.gif We'll take it from there!

Deal?

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b Nov 30 2012, 03:19 PM

Cool!
Thanks man! Ill dig my way through all this info!
Also, the lesson is taking me longer than expected. I having trouble getting a a good clean tone minus all the string noise. Guess this style aint really my strength (yet!) But yeah hoping to have it up to scratch soon.
Also, Congrats on yesterdays Launch party gig! Looked like you guys had a blast!

Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Dec 1 2012, 12:20 PM

Hey Tim! Thanks bro! It sure was biggrin.gif I'll be posting stuff soon! Anyway, if you feel like showing me a recording at this point, I'm looking forward to it!

Posted by: Timmy b Dec 1 2012, 11:10 PM

Heya Cosmin

So here we go! It came up better than I was expecting!



What do you think?

Tim


Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Dec 2 2012, 07:26 PM

Honestly, I think it has an awesome groove and tightness! Very well done mate! smile.gif U are hard on yourself, but I like that! Perfectionism is a very rare trait these days..

Posted by: Timmy b Dec 3 2012, 10:49 AM

Yeah, I guess can be a bit hard on myself. I just like to do things the best I can. smile.gif
So what's next on the plan?

Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Dec 4 2012, 10:04 AM

Hmmmm smile.gif I was thinking you could tackle this one: http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/rhythm-guitar/radio-funk-rhythm/

It avoids the pinky in a good proportion and it is great to keep your chops up! smile.gif

What say you?

Cosmin

PS: Please let me know when and if you are going to submit the previous take in the REC biggrin.gif

Posted by: Timmy b Dec 4 2012, 10:09 AM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Dec 4 2012, 10:04 AM) *
Hmmmm smile.gif I was thinking you could tackle this one: http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/rhythm-guitar/radio-funk-rhythm/

It avoids the pinky in a good proportion and it is great to keep your chops up! smile.gif

What say you?

Cosmin

PS: Please let me know when and if you are going to submit the previous take in the REC biggrin.gif


Hi Cosmin

That sounds pretty good! Ill get right on it!

I totally forgot about the REC! Guess I could post it today. We're talking about the chickin pickin or the ZZ top?

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Dec 4 2012, 10:16 AM

QUOTE (Timmy b @ Dec 4 2012, 09:09 AM) *
Hi Cosmin

That sounds pretty good! Ill get right on it!

I totally forgot about the REC! Guess I could post it today. We're talking about the chickin pickin or the ZZ top?


How about both! biggrin.gif

Posted by: Timmy b Dec 4 2012, 11:25 AM

Done and Done! smile.gif

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Dec 5 2012, 10:22 AM

Alright mate - going to get'em!

Posted by: Timmy b Dec 6 2012, 03:20 PM

Hi Cosmin

Got another Rec for ya! One from a little while back. Its not perfect but its done.
I couldnt get the tone i wanted though, espesially the dissonant part. it sounds crap! need a new guitar soon i think smile.gif



Enjoy

Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Dec 7 2012, 09:59 AM

He Tim! This has potential, although I would try re-recording with a less fuzzier tone - it needs to be tighter and the tone in this recording doesn't quite help - what say you? smile.gif

Posted by: Timmy b Dec 7 2012, 10:37 AM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Dec 7 2012, 09:59 AM) *
He Tim! This has potential, although I would try re-recording with a less fuzzier tone - it needs to be tighter and the tone in this recording doesn't quite help - what say you? smile.gif


Yeah that tone just isnt right. I just couldnt get anything to sound good, this was the the best i could come up with and i just got sick of working on it. Getting a good tone isnt something im really good at.
Ill put it back on the list and see if I can get it sounding better

Posted by: Timmy b Dec 7 2012, 11:57 AM

Hi Cosmin,

I've spent the morning messing around with tones. Ive got a sample of my mornings work, im just worried about the tone, and not the timming,ect.. at this stage.

https://soundcloud.com/user464214836/metal-metrics-1-tone-test

Is this sounding a little better? What elsedo you think could be done if more improvment is neccassary?

Thanks

Tim

Posted by: Timmy b Dec 7 2012, 05:13 PM

Aint I Mr Questions today!
I was curious about the bass guitar VST you were using on last nights vid chat? Im looking around for one without much of a cule. Yours seemed to do a pretty good job!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Dec 8 2012, 09:22 AM

Hey Tim!

This sounds tighter indeed! I think it'll do the trick, but just focus on the tightness when recording the REC take. About the bass plug-in, mine is called Vita and it does the job.

I will have to look into some more stuff when I get some free time as I want to refresh my plug-in arsenal biggrin.gif

Posted by: Timmy b Dec 13 2012, 08:32 PM

Hi Cosmin,

Mate, ive been super busy with all kinds of random stuff this week so ive barely had a chance to get anything done. The usual pre Christmas madness it seems sad.gif Hopefully ill get time soon to get some work done for you. Gotta head out now, so im not gonna make tonights Vid chat either sad.gif not a good week

Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Dec 14 2012, 01:13 PM

Hey Tim! No biggie man! Listen, take care of the Christmas things and we'll talk when you are ready wink.gif Just don't leave the guitar aside biggrin.gif And, next Thursday, don't forget to bring the webcam and sound if you will attend smile.gif Last night I jammed a little with Patrik and it felt good smile.gif

Posted by: Timmy b Dec 27 2012, 12:03 AM

Cosmin!
Merry Christmas mate! Hope you had a nice one! From your story in the forum, its sounds like you did smile.gif
So Christmas is done, and so is all the other stuff that was going on in my world. Finally got some time today to do some guitar work! YAY!
I did another Rec of the Metal metrics 1. I think i got it sounding a bit better. see what you think.



Ive got a couple of other lessons from you im working on, hope to get them done by the end of the year just in time to start a fresh new year! Also, I should be able to make the vid chats again, fingers crossed nothing comes up at the last minute tomorrow!

Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Dec 27 2012, 08:37 AM

Hehe! Merry Christmas to you too mate! Welcome back on the barricades biggrin.gif It sounds great! The tone and timing and everything! If you want me to be uber critical laugh.gif I'd say that in the breakdown part, you could let the palm muted notes ring out in heavier manner - am I making any sense? biggrin.gif Hope so!

Let's see what else you got in your sleeve and I'll see you tonight at the v-chat wink.gif

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b Jan 5 2013, 10:12 AM

Hi Cosmin,
Thank for the feedback, good to know I got it right. And the bit about the palm muting makes sence tongue.gif
But unfortunatly ive got nothing new for you yet, the lessons need a bit more work. The Funk lesson is coming along nice, also another metal metrics lesson. Also the old gary moore lesson should be up soon, but its not quite right yet. Its still a bit busy round here from the xmas/new years period. hard to get any work done! dry.gif


Anyway, hope all's good on your end. I'll have something up for you soon!

Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jan 5 2013, 03:41 PM

Howdy Tim! smile.gif Glad to hear you are busy with preparing your recordings biggrin.gif When you got something, hit me up! wink.gif

Posted by: Timmy b Jan 6 2013, 04:52 PM

Hi Cosmin,
Got something for you! I finally got a reasonable take on the Gary moore lesson. Its not quite as good as id like it be, but this is an area in my playing that is really lacking. It was real tough getting this one done! Maybe more stuff in this direction would be beneficial in the future.



Sorry for the vid quality too. Im working on a solution to this problem atm.

Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jan 6 2013, 07:46 PM

Hey Tim! It looks like you got a pretty firm grasp on this, although you sound a bit, but JUST A BIT uncertain on some notes - they are correct but you don't sound like you are convinced smile.gif If you get my vibe wink.gif I think that we should try more of this stuff indeed! How about one more of this one, having in mind what I said in the lines above?

Posted by: Timmy b Jan 7 2013, 09:38 PM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Jan 6 2013, 07:46 PM) *
Hey Tim! It looks like you got a pretty firm grasp on this, although you sound a bit, but JUST A BIT uncertain on some notes - they are correct but you don't sound like you are convinced smile.gif If you get my vibe wink.gif I think that we should try more of this stuff indeed! How about one more of this one, having in mind what I said in the lines above?


Hi Cosmin
Yeah, it definetly needs another take, I'll leave it a few days and then give it another go. See if I can nail it!

Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jan 8 2013, 09:17 AM

Good choice smile.gif A fresh approach on things always leads to interesting results biggrin.gif

Posted by: mroberts70 Jan 8 2013, 02:42 PM

QUOTE (Timmy b @ Jan 6 2013, 03:52 PM) *
Hi Cosmin,
Got something for you! I finally got a reasonable take on the Gary moore lesson. Its not quite as good as id like it be, but this is an area in my playing that is really lacking. It was real tough getting this one done! Maybe more stuff in this direction would be beneficial in the future.



Sorry for the vid quality too. Im working on a solution to this problem atm.

Tim



If it's any consolation, to a regular guy like me.... that sounded good Tim!



Of course Cosmin will whip us into top shape, or impale us with a sword of his choice for not being worthy. smile.gif Just kiddin' Cos, I like to CUT up with you from time to time. smile.gif Ok, I'll keep my day job....




Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jan 9 2013, 09:54 AM

QUOTE (mroberts70 @ Jan 8 2013, 01:42 PM) *
If it's any consolation, to a regular guy like me.... that sounded good Tim!



Of course Cosmin will whip us into top shape, or impale us with a sword of his choice for not being worthy. smile.gif Just kiddin' Cos, I like to CUT up with you from time to time. smile.gif Ok, I'll keep my day job....


Hahahaa! No biggie mate, I am dying to get my hands on the new sword I ordered and the delivery keeps on stalling like forever dry.gif But anyway, yes, I want you guys to play like pros so, hell yes, I will be picky biggrin.gif

Posted by: mroberts70 Jan 9 2013, 08:28 PM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Jan 9 2013, 08:54 AM) *
Hahahaa! No biggie mate, I am dying to get my hands on the new sword I ordered and the delivery keeps on stalling like forever dry.gif But anyway, yes, I want you guys to play like pros so, hell yes, I will be picky biggrin.gif



HAHA, that's cool... and if no one believes my last statement about the impaling... The man just said he is waiting on a new sword. So shape up or be skinned alive, which I will go for if it's between that or circumcision. LOL...

I said that thinking of an old movie starring Rutger Hauer called Blind Fury where he uses a sword as a blind master. I saw that like a hundred years ago, but I vaguely remember the scene where he cuts down some guys then as he puts his sword away in a nice calm and cool fashion he says.... "I also do circumcision." LOL, classic.

Cos, you should adopt that line when using your sword on us poor lackies when we jack up our takes and collabs because we didn't heed the words of our sensei. LOL! biggrin.gif

Sorry Tim, I totally hijacked your thread and then somehow started making bad jokes in it... huh.gif

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jan 9 2013, 09:50 PM

QUOTE (mroberts70 @ Jan 9 2013, 07:28 PM) *
HAHA, that's cool... and if no one believes my last statement about the impaling... The man just said he is waiting on a new sword. So shape up or be skinned alive, which I will go for if it's between that or circumcision. LOL...

I said that thinking of an old movie starring Rutger Hauer called Blind Fury where he uses a sword as a blind master. I saw that like a hundred years ago, but I vaguely remember the scene where he cuts down some guys then as he puts his sword away in a nice calm and cool fashion he says.... "I also do circumcision." LOL, classic.

Cos, you should adopt that line when using your sword on us poor lackies when we jack up our takes and collabs because we didn't heed the words of our sensei. LOL! biggrin.gif

Sorry Tim, I totally hijacked your thread and then somehow started making bad jokes in it... huh.gif


laugh.gif You just cracked me up mate biggrin.gif No, no, that blade is only meant for battojutsu practicing, but man! I know that movie and I LOVE IT biggrin.gif I will watch it again thanks to you! smile.gif

Posted by: mroberts70 Jan 10 2013, 12:12 AM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Jan 9 2013, 08:50 PM) *
laugh.gif You just cracked me up mate biggrin.gif No, no, that blade is only meant for battojutsu practicing, but man! I know that movie and I LOVE IT biggrin.gif I will watch it again thanks to you! smile.gif


Tim, seriously...I'm sorry man. I keep posting in here and you are probably gonna be really upset with me, but Cosmin keeps saying all this funny stuff cracking me up so i can't stop replying.

So Cosmin, battojutsu is Japanese for circumcision? I would think you could really only practice that effectively once per sparring companion? If you have a video collab on that, I'll probably have to graciously pass.

i am just kidding naturally, so why batto and not iaido? are you focusing on close quarter combat?

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jan 10 2013, 09:26 AM

QUOTE (mroberts70 @ Jan 9 2013, 11:12 PM) *
Tim, seriously...I'm sorry man. I keep posting in here and you are probably gonna be really upset with me, but Cosmin keeps saying all this funny stuff cracking me up so i can't stop replying.

So Cosmin, battojutsu is Japanese for circumcision? I would think you could really only practice that effectively once per sparring companion? If you have a video collab on that, I'll probably have to graciously pass.

i am just kidding naturally, so why batto and not iaido? are you focusing on close quarter combat?


smile.gif Mate they are just different names for the same thing... you can read stuff about it here -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batt%C5%8Djutsu

Anyway, in kobudo - the classic martial arts, there are no rules as in the gendai budo - the modern martial arts, such as kendo, for instance... because of this, our Sensei says that kenjutsu includes battojutsu, they can't be separated because they are part of a big ensemble - you must know how to draw the sword and put it back into its sheathe and also fight with it after drawing it smile.gif

Posted by: Timmy b Jan 10 2013, 07:25 PM

QUOTE (mroberts70 @ Jan 10 2013, 12:12 AM) *
Tim, seriously...I'm sorry man. I keep posting in here and you are probably gonna be really upset with me, but Cosmin keeps saying all this funny stuff cracking me up so i can't stop replying.


ALl good! You guys are havin fun! Maybe im getting a laugh out of it too! smile.gif

Posted by: mroberts70 Jan 10 2013, 08:24 PM

QUOTE (Timmy b @ Jan 10 2013, 06:25 PM) *
ALl good! You guys are havin fun! Maybe im getting a laugh out of it too! smile.gif


Yea, beings that we are in your thread.... I started kinda feeling like when I'm at work and a couple guys stop right by my desk and start up a conversation amongst themselves that starts with work then leads to jokes and I'm just kinda sitting there thinking.... can you guys move along. smile.gif

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jan 11 2013, 09:51 AM

QUOTE (mroberts70 @ Jan 10 2013, 07:24 PM) *
Yea, beings that we are in your thread.... I started kinda feeling like when I'm at work and a couple guys stop right by my desk and start up a conversation amongst themselves that starts with work then leads to jokes and I'm just kinda sitting there thinking.... can you guys move along. smile.gif


Well then, why not coming back with a nice recording of a lesson which you like and posting it here so that we can take the discussion in a musical direction? smile.gif I'm sure Tim would like it too - why not one on bending?

Posted by: mroberts70 Jan 11 2013, 03:24 PM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Jan 11 2013, 08:51 AM) *
Well then, why not coming back with a nice recording of a lesson which you like and posting it here so that we can take the discussion in a musical direction? smile.gif I'm sure Tim would like it too - why not one on bending?



All of Tim's stuff is really cool... I hate to throw mine in here and set him back. biggrin.gif

Not in the sense that mine is better, but in the sense that he has a really nice house and I'd hate to drive by and chuck a bag of garbage out in front of it... LOL... biggrin.gif

If you can't make fun and laugh at yourself then you're doing it all wrong.... laugh.gif

Posted by: Timmy b Jan 11 2013, 09:17 PM

QUOTE (mroberts70 @ Jan 11 2013, 03:24 PM) *
All of Tim's stuff is really cool... I hate to throw mine in here and set him back. biggrin.gif

Not in the sense that mine is better, but in the sense that he has a really nice house and I'd hate to drive by and chuck a bag of garbage out in front of it... LOL... biggrin.gif

If you can't make fun and laugh at yourself then you're doing it all wrong.... laugh.gif


Thats an interesting way to compliment someone! smile.gif Thank you Sir
And yes, One definitely needs to be able to laugh at themselves!

Time to add a new video.
This is a lesson i worked on a long time ago but never recorded. It sounds relatively easy, but was tricky getting it just right smile.gif
The video didnt sync as well as it did in the preview. might be time for a new editing program. smile.gif



See what you think

Tim

Posted by: mroberts70 Jan 11 2013, 11:04 PM

QUOTE (Timmy b @ Jan 11 2013, 08:17 PM) *
Thats an interesting way to compliment someone! smile.gif Thank you Sir
And yes, One definitely needs to be able to laugh at themselves!

Time to add a new video.
This is a lesson i worked on a long time ago but never recorded. It sounds relatively easy, but was tricky getting it just right smile.gif
The video didnt sync as well as it did in the preview. might be time for a new editing program. smile.gif



See what you think

Tim



Heh Heh, yea. I can come up with one or two on the different side of things... but was a compliment non the less. I first had put the one line, then got thinking... man I hope he don't think I meant that I'd put something better on here, so I hurried up and added to it.. smile.gif cause that wasn't where I was going with that at all. I've never had an ego to feed, so I can make fun of myself all day long worry free. wink.gif

Yea, that was really cool, I liked that with the piano alot. I've been messing with some of the slow bends like that just recently... especially after that British Metal 2 collab. That's not usually how I play... I'm not that coordinated, so I need slow bends so I can think where my hand needs to go next. Though I like that stuff and I really like technical/ classical sounding stuff, but I'm not coordinated enough to go there... so bluesy and slow bends it is. Cosmin said there's no better way to say I love you than a slow bend, I must be full of love cause slow I am. LOL. not man love of course... huh.gif


Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jan 11 2013, 11:35 PM

Hey Tim This is no easy lesson mate! I think you did a good job with it, but at some points it lacks the flow, if you know what I am saying and there are some licks somewhere around 0:44 - 0:45 that seem to be a bit blurry. As i said, this needs a lot of attention as the interpretation is crucial smile.gif Mark, which lesson did you decide on? biggrin.gif

Posted by: Timmy b Jan 12 2013, 08:01 AM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Jan 11 2013, 11:35 PM) *
Hey Tim This is no easy lesson mate! I think you did a good job with it, but at some points it lacks the flow, if you know what I am saying and there are some licks somewhere around 0:44 - 0:45 that seem to be a bit blurry. As i said, this needs a lot of attention as the interpretation is crucial smile.gif Mark, which lesson did you decide on? biggrin.gif


Hey Cosmin,
Yeah, Think this will be another one for the re-record pile. Definitely need more work on this area!
Do you have anything new you want me to work on, or should i keep on going with my current batch??

Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jan 12 2013, 09:53 AM

QUOTE (Timmy b @ Jan 12 2013, 07:01 AM) *
Hey Cosmin,
Yeah, Think this will be another one for the re-record pile. Definitely need more work on this area!
Do you have anything new you want me to work on, or should i keep on going with my current batch??

Tim


Mornin' mate! I'd say focus to get the current batch in tip top shape, as the more things pile up, the less you will be able to focus on. Let's do a little recap - which lessons are you currently working on?

Posted by: Timmy b Jan 12 2013, 10:35 AM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Jan 12 2013, 09:53 AM) *
Mornin' mate! I'd say focus to get the current batch in tip top shape, as the more things pile up, the less you will be able to focus on. Let's do a little recap - which lessons are you currently working on?


Yeah, Good point! they're already backed up enough! Ive got a lot im working on atm. a lot of them have just a small bit in them i cant get right. One day soon they'll all "click" and ill be done with em biggrin.gif
But the main ones im working on are

- Metal metrics 2 and Djent - time signatures - Working on the tightness. not used to such low tunings. comes out a bit sloppy.

- Radio Funk Lesson - This one is pretty much done, im just working on the muted 32nd note bits.

- Also still working on bens - Vibrato and legato lessons. My circular vibrato is nearly there, but my legato technique is really terrible! Im working on that one real slow!

-Also A few other random lessons. I'm working on triplet and sextuplet 16th notes. ( an example of this is in your "Funk metal riff" lesson.) Nearly got that fast run down!

Think thats about it. Ive got a lot in the works right now, but they're all really close to done. Its like im at a plateau and i just cant get over it. frustrating, but it will be great when its reached smile.gif

Tim


Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jan 12 2013, 10:38 AM

It most definitely will feel great! Tim, keep fighting with these ones as they pretty much pack a punch all together biggrin.gif That run in the funk metal riffing - I dunno if I even remember what I was playing there biggrin.gif shame on me - it's so silly how fast you can forget something if you don't play it for a long period of time...

Posted by: Timmy b Jan 12 2013, 11:46 PM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Jan 12 2013, 10:38 AM) *
It most definitely will feel great! Tim, keep fighting with these ones as they pretty much pack a punch all together biggrin.gif That run in the funk metal riffing - I dunno if I even remember what I was playing there biggrin.gif shame on me - it's so silly how fast you can forget something if you don't play it for a long period of time...


Will Do! It will feel good to get these ones all done!
And yeah, Its incredible how quickly we can forget things. Dont Worry, Youll know the lick when you hear it tongue.gif

Tim

Posted by: mroberts70 Jan 13 2013, 05:10 AM

QUOTE (Timmy b @ Jan 12 2013, 05:46 PM) *
Will Do! It will feel good to get these ones all done!
And yeah, Its incredible how quickly we can forget things. Dont Worry, Youll know the lick when you hear it tongue.gif

Tim



Cos, I just watched that Funk Metal riff and that was top notch... I liked that, but I see myself leaning towards liking funk type music. Tim, sorry I keep posting in your thread man, seriously if you want me to get the hell out of here just say the word... but honestly I like your playing and how you are progressing so it inspires me to watch your progress. Though I'm actually starting to feel bad for always being in your post... like the uninvited guest that I am... smile.gif But, that funk metal thing was really cool to me.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jan 13 2013, 08:54 AM

QUOTE (Timmy b @ Jan 12 2013, 10:46 PM) *
Will Do! It will feel good to get these ones all done!
And yeah, Its incredible how quickly we can forget things. Dont Worry, Youll know the lick when you hear it tongue.gif

Tim


Hehe! biggrin.gif Well then, I'll be here waiting to see the takes and when we are done we can move on to other things! Anyway, you are a very prolific dude! I enjoy working with you a lot smile.gif

QUOTE (mroberts70 @ Jan 13 2013, 04:10 AM) *
Cos, I just watched that Funk Metal riff and that was top notch... I liked that, but I see myself leaning towards liking funk type music. Tim, sorry I keep posting in your thread man, seriously if you want me to get the hell out of here just say the word... but honestly I like your playing and how you are progressing so it inspires me to watch your progress. Though I'm actually starting to feel bad for always being in your post... like the uninvited guest that I am... smile.gif But, that funk metal thing was really cool to me.


As long as the stuff in this thread inspires you, I don't think that you are an unwelcome guest, although Tim is the one to say that smile.gif

Posted by: Timmy b Jan 13 2013, 11:28 AM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Jan 13 2013, 08:54 AM) *
Hehe! biggrin.gif Well then, I'll be here waiting to see the takes and when we are done we can move on to other things! Anyway, you are a very prolific dude! I enjoy working with you a lot smile.gif


Thanks Mate! But its hard not to put in the effort when your working with someone with a strong work ethic like yours!

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Jan 13 2013, 08:54 AM) *
As long as the stuff in this thread inspires you, I don't think that you are an unwelcome guest, although Tim is the one to say that smile.gif


Absolutely! If it inspires you and helps you on your journey, By all means your welcome to hang out smile.gif


Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jan 14 2013, 08:45 AM

Strong work ethic! Wow, this sounded so soothing laugh.gif Thanks mate! Glad it's a mutual feeling biggrin.gif And I am also glad if Mark feels good to hang with us around here!

Posted by: mroberts70 Jan 14 2013, 07:26 PM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Jan 14 2013, 02:45 AM) *
Strong work ethic! Wow, this sounded so soothing laugh.gif Thanks mate! Glad it's a mutual feeling biggrin.gif And I am also glad if Mark feels good to hang with us around here!


Definately, I've been aggrivating Tim for awhile now so he is probably used to me hanging around by now anyhow... wink.gif


Posted by: Timmy b Jan 17 2013, 11:21 PM

Hi Cosmin

Slowly but surely getting some recs done. Like we talked about last time, the progress is a bit slow right now, so many of these recs are just out of my reach! mad.gif But it will come soon enough.
Im not quite done with this one yet. The timing still not tight enough, but i thought id show you and see if i can get some feedback. Its really hard to get this sounding good. not as punchy as id like. also the guitars not really helping. its hard to get it sounding good and playable in standard tune. let alone in this low tuned madness! but it'll get there soon i hope.

https://soundcloud.com/user464214836/metal-metrics-2-sample

Tim


QUOTE (mroberts70 @ Jan 14 2013, 07:26 PM) *
Definately, I've been aggrivating Tim for awhile now so he is probably used to me hanging around by now anyhow... wink.gif

"Aggrivating" is bit harsh isnt it! smile.gif

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jan 18 2013, 09:38 AM


YES! Mate, listen this is ALMOST perfect biggrin.gif

You need to let the second open A string note ring in the main riff, polish the verse part a bit although it sounds killer already and when you bend the low A string in the last part also release it don't just bend and leave it there biggrin.gif These are all details, but all in all, you are one awesome dude! Congrats!

Posted by: Timmy b Jan 18 2013, 11:15 AM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Jan 18 2013, 09:38 AM) *
YES! Mate, listen this is ALMOST perfect biggrin.gif

You need to let the second open A string note ring in the main riff, polish the verse part a bit although it sounds killer already and when you bend the low A string in the last part also release it don't just bend and leave it there biggrin.gif These are all details, but all in all, you are one awesome dude! Congrats!


Thanks man, I wouldnt say it almost perfect. Its just not sounding right to my ears. Im finding these low tones sound quite dissonant and wrong to my ears. Thats why i didnt add the a note in the main bit. it just sounds wrong! Ill keep working on it, maybe it will start sounding better.

Posted by: mroberts70 Jan 18 2013, 04:19 PM

QUOTE (Timmy b @ Jan 18 2013, 05:15 AM) *
Thanks man, I wouldnt say it almost perfect. Its just not sounding right to my ears. Im finding these low tones sound quite dissonant and wrong to my ears. Thats why i didnt add the a note in the main bit. it just sounds wrong! Ill keep working on it, maybe it will start sounding better.


AWESOME!

I'm sorry to say in this way as I can't really express it any better than this, but that is BAD ASS Tim!

I may stop playing now... smile.gif

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jan 18 2013, 06:58 PM

QUOTE (mroberts70 @ Jan 18 2013, 03:19 PM) *
AWESOME!

I'm sorry to say in this way as I can't really express it any better than this, but that is BAD ASS Tim!

I may stop playing now... smile.gif


No, no, this is meant to power you up mate biggrin.gif

Posted by: mroberts70 Jan 18 2013, 08:08 PM

Oh... I always get it wrong, I'm married.... laugh.gif

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jan 19 2013, 09:08 AM

Mark! You got a PM waiting for you and if you do a good job, you might even get a thread where people will admire your work and say ''Hey, I wish I could play/ write music like that!'' smile.gif

Posted by: mroberts70 Jan 20 2013, 10:24 PM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Jan 19 2013, 03:08 AM) *
Mark! You got a PM waiting for you and if you do a good job, you might even get a thread where people will admire your work and say ''Hey, I wish I could play/ write music like that!'' smile.gif



LOL!! laugh.gif

Everything I'm connected to is held together by a thread.... LOL! biggrin.gif

Posted by: Timmy b Jan 22 2013, 11:13 PM

Hey Mr Cosmin

Thought id stop by and give an update. Still no new recs ready, some of them are so damn close though! dry.gif Soon!
Still working on the metal metrics. ive Incorporated the missing" A" note and getting to speed. getting the muting right is really tricky. much more difficult than i expected! So here's a sample to see if im on the right track.

https://soundcloud.com/user464214836/metal-metrics-2-sample-1/s-P3NUa

Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jan 23 2013, 12:42 PM

Hey Tim - I think I wasn't clear enough smile.gif It would be easier if I would show it to you - tomorrow evening at the v-chat? How does that sound?

Posted by: Timmy b Jan 23 2013, 02:50 PM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Jan 23 2013, 12:42 PM) *
Hey Tim - I think I wasn't clear enough smile.gif It would be easier if I would show it to you - tomorrow evening at the v-chat? How does that sound?


ahh, I see what ive done. You were clear, but when you said "A" note, i instinctively thought you were talking about the 2nd string (A on a regular tuned guitar). Well Ill leave it alone and you can show me exactly how it should be tomorrow in person.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jan 24 2013, 09:37 AM

Hey matey - I'll be seeing you tonight and we can take care of this together smile.gif It's just a detail, but it's important, in order to get the WHOLE take perfectly!

Posted by: Timmy b Jan 25 2013, 02:44 PM

Hi Cosmin

Ive got a take done on the metal metrics 2. I don't think its completely spot on, but I cant stand playing this lesson anymore as ive played it to death! I need a break from it. Plus i really dont like playing "strat" style guitars either! They just dont feel right mad.gif
See what you think. Maybe it can be a revisit down the line.



Back to work on the rest of them i guess! mellow.gif

Tim

Posted by: mroberts70 Jan 25 2013, 03:37 PM

QUOTE (Timmy b @ Jan 25 2013, 08:44 AM) *
Hi Cosmin

Ive got a take done on the metal metrics 2. I don't think its completely spot on, but I cant stand playing this lesson anymore as ive played it to death! I need a break from it. Plus i really dont like playing "strat" style guitars either! They just dont feel right mad.gif
See what you think. Maybe it can be a revisit down the line.



Back to work on the rest of them i guess! mellow.gif

Tim



That was nice Tim! If you were playing a samurai sword, I would have sworn it was Cos playing that piece. smile.gif Seriously, that was good man. Your timing to my untrained non-instructor ear seemed spot on. See, I personally always like comments from non-pros because as far as I'm concerned, anyone who listens to music is a pro at..... well listening to music. and as far as straight up liking what you hear... that tells me it must be good right? Now we introduce Cos to make us razor sharp of course, but man if it's pleasing to anyone's ear who loves music, then that tells me that I must be on the right track. Well, that's just my two cents worth in hoping it keeps you motivated... smile.gif

I did think the timing was good and it sounded tight to me. Cos will jump in here and slap me and say, stop trying to do my job... LOL!

Cheers Tim,

Mark

Posted by: Timmy b Jan 25 2013, 06:22 PM

Thanks Mark!
Its not too bad I guess. But not as good as id like it to be.
You better watch out for Cosmin! Your coming around here stepping on his toes and all.
Id watch my back if I were you, He's got a big sword!!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jan 26 2013, 12:01 PM

No worries guys smile.gif Tim - you did an AWESOME job mate - there's only ONE LITTLE NOTE that didn't come out clear smile.gif The rest is perfect smile.gif If I say that, it means it is laugh.gif

So let's get the rest of them takes finished and don't worry about the sword wink.gif

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b Jan 26 2013, 03:05 PM

Sweet! good to know! That one missing note will haunt me forever biggrin.gif
I might revist the Drop A tuning in the future, But for now, Ill stick to regular. Such a low tuning aint really my cup of tea (yet?)
So its back to work, dont want the threat of a sword wielding man breaking down my door for not practicing!:o

Tim

Posted by: mroberts70 Jan 27 2013, 02:45 AM

QUOTE (Timmy b @ Jan 26 2013, 09:05 AM) *
Sweet! good to know! That one missing note will haunt me forever biggrin.gif
I might revist the Drop A tuning in the future, But for now, Ill stick to regular. Such a low tuning aint really my cup of tea (yet?)
So its back to work, dont want the threat of a sword wielding man breaking down my door for not practicing!:o

Tim


Cos is Sword of a big deal up in here, so I will indeed tread lightly...


Cos, you still need to add..... "I also do circumcision" into your signature pane...
Still love that line from Blind Fury! Old, but good movie...


I was a good take man, don't beat yourself up about it for sure... that was worthy, but that is coming from me... the air guitar instructor. All of my notes are a breeze to play man... smile.gif


Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jan 27 2013, 02:19 PM

Tim, I wanted to ask you something - would you like to place that in the REC zone? smile.gif

Posted by: Timmy b Jan 27 2013, 03:40 PM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Jan 27 2013, 02:19 PM) *
Tim, I wanted to ask you something - would you like to place that in the REC zone? smile.gif


Yeah! Might as well. I do so many recs but dont post them in there. Plus there's been a thread about a lack of rec posts, so Ill do my part.
Ill put it up now

Tim



Done!
Its weird, I just listened back to it and I'm so much happier with it now than when i recorded it! I guess hearing it over and over again Just made it sound terrible to my ears. who knows!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jan 27 2013, 05:04 PM

It sounds good because it sounds good biggrin.gif I told you that it did, so keep up the good work mate smile.gif

Don't underestimate yourself because you have no reason to!

Posted by: mroberts70 Jan 27 2013, 08:42 PM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Jan 27 2013, 11:04 AM) *
It sounds good because it sounds good biggrin.gif I told you that it did, so keep up the good work mate smile.gif

Don't underestimate yourself because you have no reason to!


+1 smile.gif

Posted by: mroberts70 Jan 27 2013, 09:58 PM

You saw it Tim...lots of instructor praise for that take.... I knew I heard right!!!

Good show mate,....you do damn good for a wounded man.. smile.gif

How is the hand BTW? I'd say good.....

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jan 28 2013, 09:08 AM

Yeah, good question Tim, how is your hand faring? I hope that all this hasn't pushed you to the point where you had to go through pain in order to perform .. sad.gif

Posted by: Timmy b Jan 29 2013, 10:48 AM

Hey guys,
ahh yes the hand
Well its not that I pushed through pain to get all this done, but with the amount of work ive done lately it is starting to become bothersome again. So I'm slowing down a little now to give it a break and also try to get a new opinion on its condition from a professional.
so yeah, that's the low down.

Posted by: mroberts70 Jan 29 2013, 01:51 PM

QUOTE (Timmy b @ Jan 29 2013, 04:48 AM) *
Hey guys,
ahh yes the hand
Well its not that I pushed through pain to get all this done, but with the amount of work ive done lately it is starting to become bothersome again. So I'm slowing down a little now to give it a break and also try to get a new opinion on its condition from a professional.
so yeah, that's the low down.



I'm obviously no doctor as my income reflects... smile.gif but I'd say using it like you have would be good therapy as long as you weren't pushing it to injury again...

Keep up the good work Tim, and relax a little... you've proven you can play some good guitar for sure!!

Take care.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jan 29 2013, 02:55 PM

Yeah, indeed man - a well done take deserves a good break smile.gif not too much but not too less biggrin.gif just take your time and we'll get back to things when you are ready wink.gif

Posted by: Timmy b Jan 29 2013, 10:01 PM

Thanks guys!
Yeah, I'll take it easy for a little bit and work on some non guitar stuff for a while. But not too long though smile.gif

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jan 29 2013, 10:47 PM

Out of sheer curiosity, what will you be working on? biggrin.gif

Posted by: Timmy b Jan 31 2013, 11:03 AM

What will I be working on? Ive got loads to do!

Im going to spend more time on learning German. I'm planning on getting a job again soon so I need to get it to a better level tongue.gif
Then there's ear training I wanna do, Some theory/harmony work. Also working with my Daw to get better recorded guitar tones worked out, mess with plugins ect...
Then finally there's the Electronic music I'll jump back into. Start messing with synths and oscillators again smile.gif plus maybe some reading!
So plenty to do even with out the guitar!

Also, all this talk in the vid chat about keys, chords, mods got me thinking and thought maybe if your time permits we could do some of this again on my thread. what do you think??

Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Feb 1 2013, 10:01 AM

Hehehehe biggrin.gif Looks like you got yer hands full Tim!

Yes mate, of course we can do it! How about starting right now!

Can you please figure this one out? smile.gif



biggrin.gif

Posted by: Timmy b Feb 1 2013, 10:47 AM

Cool Mate! I'll get right on it!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Feb 2 2013, 09:15 AM

Alright! biggrin.gif

Posted by: Timmy b Feb 3 2013, 11:05 PM

Allright man! Think I got this one!

Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm - Crash Test Dummies

Intro
Uses the chrods Gm7, Dm7, Ab, Bbsus4 I think the Ab may be an Add 9, not quite sure
Theres also a piano bit there, Picked out the G, Bb, F, C, Eb
All Seems to fit into the Eb Major Scale

Verse/Main bit
Chord Prog - Part 1 (I think I hear the sus voicings here and there)
Cm, Bbsus4, Ebx2
Ab, Eb, Bb, Eb
Abx2 Bbsus4, Eb
Bb, Eb, Ab, Eb, Bbx3

This bit is al straight forward for this bit, Vocals use the Ebmajor scale, starting on Eb. Except for a F# Note Which is an accidental.

Chord prog - Part 2This bit is a bit funny
B, Eb, B Bb7/Ab, Ab. the slash chord is the closest thing i could figure out (Bared at 3rd fret)
Vocals are Bb, Gb, F, Eb, Db, G, D.
The Gb and Db notes (which dont fit into the scale) are both used when the B chords is played (also not in the scale)
They run the sequence, Gb, F, Eb, (Db only first time) The only scales these fit to are the Db or Gb Major scales, neither of which have a natural B. So no Idea, whats happening here sad.gif Maybe just some random stuff to mess with everyones head! biggrin.gif

Intro/Chorus
Used again are the same chords, but with the mmmm mmmm part. G, Bb, D, F or a Gm7 Arpeggio

Bridge
Straight forward here too
Fm, Eb, Bb, then finished with an Ab chord. (maybe an add9 again??)
Vocals do Ab, C, Bb, Eb, F, G Around the Eb Major scale here


Outro
This part is just a repeat of the bridge with some other bits and pieces going on over the top. all sounds in key


Thats pretty much it. It all seems to be in Eb major except for that bit with the B chords.

So whats your take on this B chord then?? Im curious!

Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Feb 5 2013, 01:25 PM

Hey man biggrin.gif You got a fine set of ears!!

- I'm not too sure about that Bbsus4 in the intro - but I will give it some fresh go tomorrow FIRST thing in the morning when my ears have had a good rest
- about that B - to me it sounds like B Lydian - which would have Gb major as the parent scale smile.gif Gb and Db are in there tongue.gif Messing with our heads indeed biggrin.gif

How's the hand mate?

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b Feb 5 2013, 04:09 PM

Damn! B Lydian!
I missed that because my scale "Cheat sheet" Has a Cb instead of B on it! Totally missed it! Makes scene now!!
As for the Bbsus4 I think its a just a regular major, but they hammer onto the 4th which may give it that sound We'll see

The Hand? Haven't been playing much this week so it seems to be better. I'm away from my usual home again, but when i get back im going to try and organize a physio to check it out.

Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Feb 6 2013, 09:41 AM

Oh, ok man - take care of that hand and... why not tell me a little bit more about this 'cheat sheet' of yours biggrin.gif How does it work?

Now, shall we have another challenge here? smile.gif


Posted by: Timmy b Feb 6 2013, 10:17 AM

Challenge is the right word! Ill get on it
My cheat sheet is nothing special, just all the major scales written up in order on a little card. Whenever im doing this sort of work and im stuck or cant visualize what scale fits, ect... I pull it out and then its all so obvious. Except for that B lydian dry.gif

Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Feb 6 2013, 10:33 AM

Ohhh, I see smile.gif Well, let's see what you have to say about Prince biggrin.gif

Posted by: Timmy b Feb 7 2013, 07:22 PM

Hey mate,
I've got a few things on tonight, So i wont be able to make the vid chat.
Hope to make it next week
Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Feb 7 2013, 08:31 PM

Ok man, no problemmo - how's the Prince tune going? biggrin.gif

Posted by: Timmy b Feb 9 2013, 04:54 PM

Hi Cosmin,
Think I've got this one worked out. It was a little tricky to hear it all as this was out of my comfort zone. But here goes

Prince - Raspberry Beret


Intro
Chords used are A, G, D, G, D, G A. I think they are D chords as the bass Is playing a F# on them, but F# Chord doesnt sound right. So I guess a D/F# Chord could be played too.
Bass A, G, F#, G, F#, G, A
Melody over this part uses C#, B, D, E, A, G
So all this tells me its in D Major.

Verse
The chords remain the same as the intro, With a second guitar working the melody around the chords too.
Bass is also Playing the same stuff.
Vocals are roughly working around the E, C#, B, A. Thats all i could hear. I had trouble getting notes from his vocals for some reason?
But, I think it keeps with the songs key.

Chorus
Chorus is the same as the intro, but with Vocals
Vocals use E, F#, A, C#, B Again, looks like the D Major

Bridge
Changes up a little bit here.
Chords D, A x2 (Fill) D,A x2 (fill) G, E, (fill) G, F#m, E. Again the Bass is doing a similar thing as earlier playing a C# were the A chord is. The C# chord didn't sound right and the A chord seemed to work. So again maybe a A/C# chord here??
The Bass follows the chords except for the extra C# And also plays a B before the C#.
The Vocals I had trouble following this well. Something with his vocal style i guess. But i think i heard all the notes from the D major scale again
So I also think this part is in the key of D major
The Only thing which I wasn't entirely sure about was the little fills in between the chord progressions.
Its D,E,A,G#, F#, E and the last note I think is a D, Which would fit fine with the key. But D# sounds ok too, but wouldn't make any sense scale wise. But im Going to go with the D

Thinks thats about it. So I im saying Key of D major.
What do you think??
Also, Im interested more in working out when modes are used, im not really sure how, as they use the same notes as the parents scales. how would one go about woking this stuff out? Maybe a topic we can touch on in the future.

Allright, Then see you again soon

Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Feb 11 2013, 05:13 PM

Hey Tim! Total success mate smile.gif I followed everything and you are spot on mate! Prince does have a weirder vocal style indeed - hope my GF doesn't somehow end up reading this, as she is a bigger fan than I am tongue.gif

I uber proud of you biggrin.gif Now modes - well, in the last session I have explained how I built my take for the Prate Collab based on using modes smile.gif I will revise everything this Thursday and we can delve into the subject some more - you're coming right? biggrin.gif

When using modes you are basically using certain notes over certain chords smile.gif Tell me, am I mistaken or have we somehow hit this topic in the past?

In the mean time, you can try your hand on the homework and see what you get without thinking about modes - show me what you have come up with and we'll dissect the phrases and see if you have used modes without actually thinking of it wink.gif The link for the collab backing track is included in the link below!

What say you?

Here's the HW: http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=47842

Posted by: Timmy b Feb 12 2013, 10:05 AM

Hey Cosmin,
Thanks man, Its definitely getting easier to break songs down. You should def keep these posts hidden from the GF though ohmy.gif

I think we have touched on modes before, and I do understand the concept of them and how they are derived. Its just putting them into practical use is another story.
One thing I did notice about the prince track was that when I tried to improve over some parts, I found that It didnt sound right using the D note as a center as the key would imply. I found I was drawn to the A note More, which sounded a lot better.

Anyhow, Should definitely do more on the topic in the future. For now I'll check out the Homework. Think I should be able to make it this Thursday too.

Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Feb 13 2013, 08:49 AM

That's because the song deals with the A mixolydian mode tongue.gif (5th scale degree of D major)

Now, until Thursday, try and fiddle around with the backing track and invent phrases which follow the chord changes - I have explained the chord progressions and in the first one which is basically a I V IV I progression in C minor, you can play C aeolian while over the rest of the progressions, you can follow the chord changes - for instance, over the G major you can play G phrygian dominant and G phrygian smile.gif Try things and let's see what you get at tomorrow's session. Don't worry, it doesn't have to be complicated wink.gif

Posted by: Timmy b Feb 13 2013, 11:57 AM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Feb 13 2013, 08:49 AM) *
That's because the song deals with the A mixolydian mode tongue.gif (5th scale degree of D major)

Now, until Thursday, try and fiddle around with the backing track and invent phrases which follow the chord changes - I have explained the chord progressions and in the first one which is basically a I V IV I progression in C minor, you can play C aeolian while over the rest of the progressions, you can follow the chord changes - for instance, over the G major you can play G phrygian dominant and G phrygian smile.gif Try things and let's see what you get at tomorrow's session. Don't worry, it doesn't have to be complicated wink.gif


Hey Cosmin,

I had a funny feeling that the Mixolydian had something to do with it!

I had a little mess around with the H/work. Its not fully done, But I played around with the modal bit. I've never really used this kind of approach on playing before, so it sounds very forced and planned. (Which it was!) Im not really too happy with it.

Maybe I'm approching it the wrong way, I find it hard to fit in notes which distinguish the mode well, (Which im not entirely sure of those notes either). Or is it more of the case of hitting the root (Mode Root) notes on the chord changes
Lots to learn I guess.

So, What are your thoughts?

Im going to do more work on it later and play what feels right on the other parts.

Tim

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Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Feb 13 2013, 11:18 PM

Hey Tim!

I think it's a good start man smile.gif You are right, as it sounds indeed way too rigid, but as I said, you have to start somewhere smile.gif

How I do it - I sing the line in my head and make it fit the chord progression and after laying it on the guitar I see what notes I will mod in order to make the lines fit some chord changes in such a way that they may emphasize on a particular mode biggrin.gif At some point you will be able to do it straight away, but till then, this is the best way to start - in my opinion!

Posted by: Timmy b Feb 14 2013, 07:08 PM

Ok,
Had another try at this, Unfortunately I just didn't have the time i expected to have today to work on this. some stuff came up out of the blue.
So I did the modal part again, came up with something a bit better than last time. still not 100% but like you said this is all a matter of practice i guess. The other part I didnt get to yet. Next week ill have my regular practice space back, so I can get more work done.
Maybe next we can talk about which notes emphasize the modes so I have a better understanding of how to fit it all in better??
Catch you at the vid chat

Tim

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Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Feb 15 2013, 09:35 AM

Hey Tim! As we spoke last evening in the v-chat, time invested in exploring and practice, will solve a lot of problems wink.gif

About the modes and the notes you can use to emphasize them:

Ionian - 7, 4, 3
Dorian - 6, b3, 2
Phrygian - b2
Lydian - #4
Mixolydian - b7, 3
Aeolian - b6, b3
Locrian - b5
Harmonic Minor - b3, 7

Why not try and play these against the particular chord that they are associated with and see what things sound like? You know, harmonize a major scale using 7th chords and then over each chord play the afferent mode smile.gif Harmonic minor can be played over a mM7 chord (1 b3 5 7)

Posted by: Timmy b Feb 15 2013, 10:50 AM

Cool! Thanks for that!
Those are the notes i wasn't too sure about, I will definitely study them.
Ive put together some baking tracks this morning to practice over, Ill see what I come up with and Ill post some stuff now and then.

This is one of those areas in my playing which is really missing, maybe even a bit scary to me, just because I have no experience in coming up with melodies and lead lines ect.. so i will spend lots of time on this in the next few weeks I think.

Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Feb 16 2013, 04:23 PM

Hey Tim! I'd be glad to help out with the subject, so let me know when you have finished exploring those tracks and if you have any questions at the moment. I'd also like to hear if you felt inspired to come up with any ideas using the characteristic scale degrees of each mode, or the collab track biggrin.gif

Posted by: Timmy b Feb 18 2013, 06:44 PM

Hey Cosmin,
Been a busy weekend so not too much worked on yet, But this week is looking good for time! biggrin.gif
But the modes concept is becoming clearer now, in time it will be come up great.
Here's a pic of my modes work station. I recorded all the chords of a major scale as a progression and chopped it up into regions. I can loop them rearrange them ect... to mix things up a bit.

Tim

 

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Feb 19 2013, 12:03 AM

Hey man biggrin.gif This looks great mate. You can also try to check out the lesson notes I made on modes last year - you can find progression examples for each one wink.gif Check it out: http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=39243&view=findpost&p=564197

Posted by: Timmy b Feb 23 2013, 03:36 PM

Hey There Mr Cosmin!

I've got a REC for you today! Its one I started when I the metal metrics Lesson in Drop A and I wanted it finished so I could tune the guitar back up to a normal-er tuning tongue.gif I found because of the lower tension on the strings, the low "A" just doesn't sound defined and snappy enough in the palm muted bits in the main Riff. But other than that, I think It came up pretty well.



As for the Modes, They are coming along nicely! Its staring to make more sense. I been working with my project and getting used to sound and feel of each mode. I've also been digging through those lesson notes, they're very useful!
A bit more practice and they'll all be a piece of cake! biggrin.gif

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Feb 24 2013, 03:43 PM

Wow smile.gif Looks like you've been quite busy, my friend! Congrats on the take - it can easily score the 10 wink.gif and I will also show it to my band mates!

I am glad that you are using those lesson notes and I am looking forward to see your pirate collab take - don't forget that the deadline is tomorrow tongue.gif

Posted by: Timmy b Feb 24 2013, 05:35 PM

Thanks Man! Its starting to get much easier to get good takes done! Ill Post it up on the Rec page too.
I'll work more on the pirate collab tonight and see what I can come up with.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Feb 25 2013, 02:34 PM

Alright! Will check it out right away! Well, perfect practice makes perfect, right?

Posted by: Timmy b Feb 27 2013, 03:37 PM

Hey Cosmin,

Sorry I didn't make the Collab. It couldn't really get anything I was happy with. Ill definitely start earlier on the next Collab.
Also, I just realized that I haven't seen the Backing track you said you would post from the track in the last vid chat.
Is it up somewhere and Ive just missed it?

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Feb 27 2013, 03:56 PM

QUOTE (Timmy b @ Feb 27 2013, 02:37 PM) *
Hey Cosmin,

Sorry I didn't make the Collab. It couldn't really get anything I was happy with. Ill definitely start earlier on the next Collab.
Also, I just realized that I haven't seen the Backing track you said you would post from the track in the last vid chat.
Is it up somewhere and Ive just missed it?


Hey mate - it's in the Lesson notes thread biggrin.gif

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=39243&view=findpost&p=634116

Posted by: Timmy b Feb 27 2013, 10:41 PM

Oh! My Bad!
Also, Ive forgotten exactly what the task was. Learn it and record a version or interpretation of it? My memory's a bit fuzzy.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Feb 27 2013, 11:07 PM

QUOTE (Timmy b @ Feb 27 2013, 09:41 PM) *
Oh! My Bad!
Also, Ive forgotten exactly what the task was. Learn it and record a version or interpretation of it? My memory's a bit fuzzy.


Just learning it and recording it can do the trick wink.gif biggrin.gif

Posted by: Timmy b Feb 28 2013, 03:07 PM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Feb 27 2013, 11:07 PM) *
Just learning it and recording it can do the trick wink.gif biggrin.gif


I can handle that. Ill get it up to speed and hopefully have it done by the end of the weekend.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Feb 28 2013, 07:25 PM

Great man! Check out tonight's session - I got another tune for you guys smile.gif

Posted by: Timmy b Mar 1 2013, 11:13 PM

Hey Cosmin

Got another Rec done today! Slowly but surely im getting through the list of them smile.gif

I haven't gotten this circle vibrato technique completely mastered, but I think Ive got it to a point where I could do the Rec.
I still find it a little tricky to do it well on the "wound" lower strings and also the high E, but in time it will become easier and more natural I think.


Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 2 2013, 12:38 PM

Hey Tim! Great stuff dude! I think you are very close to nailing it - just take care and control the vibrato better, just to avoid getting out of pitch! smile.gif

Posted by: Timmy b Mar 10 2013, 08:34 PM

Hi Mate, How you doing

Ive got a little Rec finished for you today. It was one of your tracks from the video chat a couple weeks ago.
It was a very interesting experience and I learned a lot from it all. I didnt get the clean chord part sounding too good though. Ive still got a long way to go in Recording and mixing, but one has to start somewhere right!
See what you think
Tim

https://soundcloud.com/user464214836/cosmins-song-1

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 10 2013, 10:37 PM

Hey TIM biggrin.gif Wow man, you made my evening biggrin.gif Of course it has to start - and what better place than here? I see you changed the theme a bit at the parts where I played the eight notes and than that tripled smile.gif The tone has a bit too many highs mate, otherwise I think you got the groove going! Great, great biggrin.gif Glad you liked it and learned stuff biggrin.gif

Posted by: Timmy b Mar 10 2013, 11:00 PM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Mar 10 2013, 10:37 PM) *
Hey TIM biggrin.gif Wow man, you made my evening biggrin.gif Of course it has to start - and what better place than here? I see you changed the theme a bit at the parts where I played the eight notes and than that tripled smile.gif The tone has a bit too many highs mate, otherwise I think you got the groove going! Great, great biggrin.gif Glad you liked it and learned stuff biggrin.gif


Thank Man!
I didnt realize I changed the theme? I learned it from the Guitar pro and I though it sounded a little bit different to what I remembered it, or maybe I just changed it without realizing. It still worked out well though.
I'll have a mess around with the track again and see if can EQ some of those Highs out.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 11 2013, 10:01 AM

Great! Put it up here when it's ready wink.gif Oh, don't forget about this Thursday - we'll have a blast with the same idea as last Thursday but against a chord progression this time !

Posted by: Timmy b Mar 15 2013, 12:57 PM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Mar 11 2013, 10:01 AM) *
Great! Put it up here when it's ready wink.gif Oh, don't forget about this Thursday - we'll have a blast with the same idea as last Thursday but against a chord progression this time !


Hi Cosmin,

Sorry I couldnt make the vid chat last night. I'm away from home and It just didnt work. Plus I dont have a guitar with me atm.
So I had another look at this track, had a mess with it, took some highs off. Think its a bit better.
I'm having trouble with this as I dont have any monitors and my headphones aren't really the greatest. Gonna have to upgrade them soon.

So im wondering what direction to go in next that isnt really guitar related.
I was thinking maybe something to do with backing tracks/programing Drums. Not exactly my area of expertise.
Do you have any suggestions?

https://soundcloud.com/user464214836/cosmins-song-1-2nd-mix

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 16 2013, 11:20 AM

Hey Tim!

This is much better - it has greatness and it feels spacy - just like it is intended to. The only thing that still feels a bit too small is the lead melody - maybe add some more delay to it?

Mate - here's what I suggest smile.gif Learning drum writing and orchestrating music in general is done by starting from an idea.

Do you have any guitar melodies or riffs that you would like to turn into something more complex? smile.gif

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b Mar 17 2013, 07:18 PM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Mar 16 2013, 11:20 AM) *
Hey Tim!

This is much better - it has greatness and it feels spacy - just like it is intended to. The only thing that still feels a bit too small is the lead melody - maybe add some more delay to it?

Mate - here's what I suggest smile.gif Learning drum writing and orchestrating music in general is done by starting from an idea.

Do you have any guitar melodies or riffs that you would like to turn into something more complex? smile.gif

Cosmin



Thanks mate,
I fixed the main lead up a bit, it sounds a bit fuller. I had a mix up in the panning settings.

As for ideas, there's plenty of them lying around. though most would need to be re-recorded to a click track to make them useable.
I'm still away from home atm, so I don't have a guitar with me to get that done.


Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 17 2013, 07:21 PM

QUOTE (Timmy b @ Mar 17 2013, 06:18 PM) *
Thanks mate,
I fixed the main lead up a bit, it sounds a bit fuller. I had a mix up in the panning settings.

As for ideas, there's plenty of them lying around. though most would need to be re-recorded to a click track to make them useable.
I'm still away from home atm, so I don't have a guitar with me to get that done.


Well, when do you get home mate? smile.gif Thing is, I never worked on drums without an idea to use them for biggrin.gif Some exercise which you could do - pick up 3 songs - not to difficult and reproduce the drum tracks with virtual drums biggrin.gif

How's that for a challenge, eh? biggrin.gif

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b Mar 18 2013, 08:38 AM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Mar 17 2013, 07:21 PM) *
Well, when do you get home mate? smile.gif Thing is, I never worked on drums without an idea to use them for biggrin.gif Some exercise which you could do - pick up 3 songs - not to difficult and reproduce the drum tracks with virtual drums biggrin.gif

How's that for a challenge, eh? biggrin.gif

Cosmin



Interesting indeed! I'll put it on my "To do" list

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 18 2013, 08:59 AM

Alright! Let me know what songs you chose biggrin.gif Be careful that at first you won't choose ones that are too difficult, ok? Step by step is the way to go smile.gif

Posted by: Timmy b Mar 20 2013, 05:30 PM

Hey man!

Alright got a song list for you. Sorry for the delay, I don't know where the time went this week!

Ok, So I'll start with: Foo Fighters - Wheels
Then: Slash - Starlight
Then finish with: Rage against the machine - People of the sun

I think that should challenge me enough!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 20 2013, 09:59 PM

QUOTE (Timmy b @ Mar 20 2013, 04:30 PM) *
Hey man!

Alright got a song list for you. Sorry for the delay, I don't know where the time went this week!

Ok, So I'll start with: Foo Fighters - Wheels
Then: Slash - Starlight
Then finish with: Rage against the machine - People of the sun

I think that should challenge me enough!


biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif such a great combo! I want to hear the drums smile.gif

Posted by: Timmy b Mar 27 2013, 08:41 PM

Hey Cosmin,
A quick update,
Once again the "real world" is taking up too much of my time. dry.gif Im back "home" again but there are new problems arriving. Our living arrangements are up in the air all of a sudden and my Girlfriend is having family issues that I'm caught in the middle of too. No time for music unfortunately sad.gif
But not to worry, I have started on the drum tracks, and things shouldl be back to normal here soon enough to get them done. Also, I'll be away from home tomorrow (again), so ill miss yet another vid chat. Here's hoping next Thursday things will be a bit more normal.

Anyways, hope your well and hopefully catch you soon

Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 28 2013, 09:41 AM

Tim, my friend smile.gif Thanks for the update on things - I am well and working hard with my activities. You take good care of your lady and get back to music when you feel it's time. Looking forward to hear what you came up with, drum wise!

Posted by: Timmy b Apr 13 2013, 01:27 PM

All right! I'm Back!!

So everything here has stabilized once again and gone back to normal (as normal as it gets for us tongue.gif ) Its go time!

I've finally got the foo fighters track done. It was actually quite difficult! Especially the Imputing into midi. Its tricky to get the feel right
Turns out there's more to drumming then all the jokes give drummers credit for!Especially the Imputing into midi.
So I'm relatively happy with the outcome. I worked more on the actual notes and not so much on the sound. Its quite difficult to replicate those hi hats!
Ill post an Mp3 of it. I can also post the Midi file if you like. I did it in Addictive drums.

Right, So ill get stared on the next track, and pretty soon ill start on some guitar stuff again (im nursing a deeply cut finger atm sad.gif

Anyway, Hope all is good on your side. Catch you soon

Tim



 Wheels.mp3 ( 3.9MB ) : 74
 

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Apr 14 2013, 04:17 PM

Hey Tim! Glad you're back man smile.gif

Pfff, what in the name of God are you doing with those hands man? biggrin.gif You always get hurt somehow sad.gif

I listened to the track and it seems fine so far - I'll go a few times through it to see if I spot any differences tho.

Tell me would you be up for recording the guitars as well? I think it's going to be a great orchestration exercise - simply analyzing what Dave and the guys did with the song and understanding what goes where, will shed a lot of light on your own stuff too!

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b Apr 15 2013, 10:28 AM

Yeah, im a bit accident prone. Big and clumsy smile.gif

Guess I could have a go at the guitars too. Definitely be a challenge that's for sure! Ill get onto it!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Apr 15 2013, 09:53 PM

I'll be really looking forward to hear that mate smile.gif Will you be here with us on Thursday?

Posted by: Timmy b Apr 16 2013, 06:55 AM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Apr 15 2013, 10:53 PM) *
I'll be really looking forward to hear that mate smile.gif Will you be here with us on Thursday?


Yeah, Thursday should work this week. Whats the topic this week? Still the minor progressions, or have you got something else planned?

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Apr 16 2013, 08:29 AM

QUOTE (Timmy b @ Apr 16 2013, 05:55 AM) *
Yeah, Thursday should work this week. Whats the topic this week? Still the minor progressions, or have you got something else planned?


Hmmmmm, I got several topics, suggested by the guys last time and I shall see what order should I choose, because they are all good smile.gif

- Making a solo using only three notes
- Singing and playing the guitar
- Arpeggios over chords

What would you fancy, for instance? smile.gif

Posted by: Timmy b Apr 17 2013, 06:53 AM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Apr 16 2013, 09:29 AM) *
Hmmmmm, I got several topics, suggested by the guys last time and I shall see what order should I choose, because they are all good smile.gif

- Making a solo using only three notes
- Singing and playing the guitar
- Arpeggios over chords

What would you fancy, for instance? smile.gif


Oh Man, they're all good! I say just start at the top and do all of them in the next couple weeks! smile.gif

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Apr 17 2013, 07:45 AM

QUOTE (Timmy b @ Apr 17 2013, 05:53 AM) *
Oh Man, they're all good! I say just start at the top and do all of them in the next couple weeks! smile.gif


My intention exactly laugh.gif Thank you!

Posted by: Timmy b Apr 26 2013, 10:23 PM

Hello Mate,

Thought I'd drop by, show you what I'm up to. I've been working on the track but its been slow progress. There's just so much to do and learn,getting good tones is hard! and getting good takes is bit tricky sometimes too!
Anyways ive been working on a couple of the main parts. The verse im quite happy with the sound, but I need to re-record it. The pre chorus is not bad I think. The chorus needs the chord voicings to be more prominent. So lots more work for me it seems tongue.gif

See what you think, Maybe it some frequencies stand out to you, my headphones aren't the best.



 Wheels___Preview.mp3 ( 859.29K ) : 72
 

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Apr 27 2013, 09:28 AM

QUOTE (Timmy b @ Apr 26 2013, 09:23 PM) *
Hello Mate,

Thought I'd drop by, show you what I'm up to. I've been working on the track but its been slow progress. There's just so much to do and learn,getting good tones is hard! and getting good takes is bit tricky sometimes too!
Anyways ive been working on a couple of the main parts. The verse im quite happy with the sound, but I need to re-record it. The pre chorus is not bad I think. The chorus needs the chord voicings to be more prominent. So lots more work for me it seems tongue.gif

See what you think, Maybe it some frequencies stand out to you, my headphones aren't the best.


Wow biggrin.gif Tim! I am uber proud man - indeed, the first part of the verse was just a tiny bit shaky, but hell bro, you nailed a good tone on the chorus. Good timing and balance. YOU MUST finish this smile.gif I am more than confident that you are on a good path. The chorus sounds very authentic - you know what will follow after finishing the guitars, right? biggrin.gif Regarding the verse, the tone is a bit thin, but nothing else stands out as an issue.

It is a lot of work, but this is how you get into the routine of writing/ recording/ arranging. I really hope this will be the beginning of a beautiful journey for you. Post as soon as you have progressed with the track and let me know if you need my assistance with something else, k?


Posted by: Timmy b Apr 27 2013, 06:35 PM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Apr 27 2013, 10:28 AM) *
Wow biggrin.gif Tim! I am uber proud man - indeed, the first part of the verse was just a tiny bit shaky, but hell bro, you nailed a good tone on the chorus. Good timing and balance. YOU MUST finish this smile.gif I am more than confident that you are on a good path. The chorus sounds very authentic - you know what will follow after finishing the guitars, right? biggrin.gif Regarding the verse, the tone is a bit thin, but nothing else stands out as an issue.

It is a lot of work, but this is how you get into the routine of writing/ recording/ arranging. I really hope this will be the beginning of a beautiful journey for you. Post as soon as you have progressed with the track and let me know if you need my assistance with something else, k?


Thanks Man!

It is quite a good learning experience. There's so many aspects that need consideration when putting together a track. lots of trial and error.
Im finding it a lot easier and satisfying to be just recording a cover, It takes the arranging and writing factor out, which makes it a lot less daunting. It will definitely lay down the path for future works
Ill keep at it and keep you posted as it comes along. As for the Vocals, we'll see tongue.gif

Oh, and the licks in the vid chat on Thursday were really cool!

Catch you next time

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Apr 28 2013, 07:16 AM

Thanks mate - I learned even more biggrin.gif I am trying to get some new stuff into my arsenal, as lately, I haven't had time to practice new stuff at all and it feels frustrating not to, you know..

Anyway, I totally agree with you in what regards the covering - that's how you learn biggrin.gif And then, BAM, onward to the next step!

Now, I'll see you on Thursday and in the mean time, post in here when you have new stuff on the track smile.gif By the way, how's that finger going?

Posted by: Timmy b Apr 29 2013, 09:06 PM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Apr 28 2013, 08:16 AM) *
Thanks mate - I learned even more biggrin.gif I am trying to get some new stuff into my arsenal, as lately, I haven't had time to practice new stuff at all and it feels frustrating not to, you know..

Anyway, I totally agree with you in what regards the covering - that's how you learn biggrin.gif And then, BAM, onward to the next step!

Now, I'll see you on Thursday and in the mean time, post in here when you have new stuff on the track smile.gif By the way, how's that finger going?



The finger's going good. Im working on a massage/cooling therapy on the arm and hand and it seems to be going well. Still early days, but its really loosened my arm muscles so much! Feels great! Im not doing much playing on the side, so i'm only doing a little bit a day on "wheels"

See you Thurday

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Apr 30 2013, 08:02 AM

QUOTE (Timmy b @ Apr 29 2013, 08:06 PM) *
The finger's going good. Im working on a massage/cooling therapy on the arm and hand and it seems to be going well. Still early days, but its really loosened my arm muscles so much! Feels great! Im not doing much playing on the side, so i'm only doing a little bit a day on "wheels"

See you Thurday


If it feels good on the long run, it must be good. Whatever you are doing, you are doing great with 'Wheels' so let's continue making Mr. Grohl proud!

See you on Thursday mate!


Posted by: Timmy b May 2 2013, 11:47 AM

Hey Mate,
Another quick preview, Got a couple of snippets for you. Im working on the lead parts, Im not entirely happy with them yet.
Still got the verse to redo and the drum sound to improve, but slowly getting there. One thing I'm kinda stuck with are the harmonic sounds in the intro and the solo section. Any ideas?? I cant seem to get that sound.

 Wheels_Prieview.mp3 ( 2.15MB ) : 77
 

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 2 2013, 12:54 PM

Hey Tim, so far, this sounds amazing biggrin.gif Unfortunately, they make it sound huge because the recording, mixing and mastering conditions and knowledge are way better than anything us mere mortals would have laugh.gif

Let me listen to it some more, but I think the harmonics are added separately because I can't hear them in the live version, for instance:



They aren't there out of what I can distinguish... so if you nail the right notes, add them separately tongue.gif

See you tonight at the v-chat man, you're coming, aye?

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b May 2 2013, 01:29 PM

Thanks Man,
Guess there is only so much one can get out of a basic setup compared to having a full studio! Plus the know how! I'll keep at it though

As for the harmonics, I was just going to add separately like you said. Just haven't found em yet.

I'll definitely make the V chat tonight. see you then

Tim

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 3 2013, 07:58 AM

Hey man, hope you didn't mind that I praised your work last evening, but it was honest smile.gif

Posted by: Timmy b May 4 2013, 09:07 AM

No problem man. It was a bit weird for me though!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 4 2013, 09:16 AM

QUOTE (Timmy b @ May 4 2013, 08:07 AM) *
No problem man. It was a bit weird for me though!


Hey bro, why weird? smile.gif

Posted by: Timmy b May 4 2013, 11:48 AM

Not sure
I guess I'm more of a quiet achiever. Im not out to get praise on the things I do. I just do what I do

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 5 2013, 01:40 PM

I understand and will respect your wishes, mate. But, you deserved it and that's why I felt like making it public smile.gif

Posted by: Timmy b May 5 2013, 10:48 PM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ May 5 2013, 02:40 PM) *
I understand and will respect your wishes, mate. But, you deserved it and that's why I felt like making it public smile.gif


Its no problem man! It's not that I'm against it or anything. Just a matter of getting used to. The more it happens, the less weird it will feel

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 6 2013, 08:27 AM

QUOTE (Timmy b @ May 5 2013, 09:48 PM) *
Its no problem man! It's not that I'm against it or anything. Just a matter of getting used to. The more it happens, the less weird it will feel


Good to know biggrin.gif Keep up the great work amigo!

Posted by: Timmy b May 8 2013, 10:37 PM

Hello Mate,

Its preview time again! I've got all the main tracks done now, along with the bass. Still not entirely happy with the Lead parts and i haven't been able to get those harmonics yet either. I'll work on it the next few days and do some tweaks here and there and we'll be all done!
Pretty happy with the way its turning out! smile.gif
See what you think.

Tim

 Wheels.mp3 ( 3.88MB ) : 84
 

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 9 2013, 08:19 AM

QUOTE (Timmy b @ May 8 2013, 09:37 PM) *
Hello Mate,

Its preview time again! I've got all the main tracks done now, along with the bass. Still not entirely happy with the Lead parts and i haven't been able to get those harmonics yet either. I'll work on it the next few days and do some tweaks here and there and we'll be all done!
Pretty happy with the way its turning out! smile.gif
See what you think.

Tim


Hey man! Congrats once again biggrin.gif

I think this sounds very good and I daresay the thing that doesn't satisfy you, but you can't quite put your finger on it, is the greatness that you want to hear biggrin.gif I know, because I have the same problem - well, this is it with home recording smile.gif

If you nail the harmonics, I think this is about ready, am I right?

Cosmin

Posted by: Timmy b May 9 2013, 08:48 AM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ May 9 2013, 09:19 AM) *
Hey man! Congrats once again biggrin.gif

I think this sounds very good and I daresay the thing that doesn't satisfy you, but you can't quite put your finger on it, is the greatness that you want to hear biggrin.gif I know, because I have the same problem - well, this is it with home recording smile.gif

If you nail the harmonics, I think this is about ready, am I right?

Cosmin


Yeah, I guess there's that drive to want it to be better and better! I'll work on getting those harmonics done and then we're ready I thinkl
Also, I still dont really have descent headphones or monitors. Can you hear anything or frequencies that may need to be cut or boosted?

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 10 2013, 07:42 AM

QUOTE (Timmy b @ May 9 2013, 07:48 AM) *
Yeah, I guess there's that drive to want it to be better and better! I'll work on getting those harmonics done and then we're ready I thinkl
Also, I still dont really have descent headphones or monitors. Can you hear anything or frequencies that may need to be cut or boosted?


Hey Tim, out of what I heard, nothing sounds out of place - but I'll send the track to a friend of mine at a pro studio and we can hear a sound expert's opinion smile.gif What do you say?

Posted by: Timmy b May 10 2013, 12:01 PM

Sounds like a plan!
It would be good to have an opinion like that

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 11 2013, 06:55 AM

Alright, stay tuned then wink.gif

Posted by: Timmy b May 13 2013, 01:27 PM

Hey Cosmin,

So I've done the last couple things to the track. I got the harmonics done, they're not quite right but its the best I could do.
I've gotten to a point with this track where I dont really know how to make it sound better or how I want it to sound, and the more I do to it, the worse it starts to sound.
I don't have the ability and knowledge yet so I'll call it a day on this one and move on.

Tim


 Wheels___Final_Mix.mp3 ( 3.86MB ) : 93
 

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 14 2013, 11:58 AM

Hey man - about the harmonics - honestly they sound good to me! And here's what my friend said:

For the conditions you described, it sounds good with the following observations:

- the hihats are too loud in the beginning and then a bit too quiet and maybe a bit too harsh regarding the sound.
- maybe the snare could use a little reverb

Uh oh, I just noticed - at 02:06 - there's a little issue with a forgotten snare there smile.gif I totally agree with you man and I really think you did a pro job on this one. Shall we choose another song, or would you like to try something else for a change?

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