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Welcome to your personal thread!

How about sharing here your first impressions on the lessons we decided to work upon, to begin with?

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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Aug 3 2014, 07:32 PM) *
Hey mate!

Welcome to your personal thread!

How about sharing here your first impressions on the lessons we decided to work upon, to begin with?

Cosmin


OK, most of my problems from the weekend are sorted. Been having a practise on the two lessons
Rhythm: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Beginn..._1_Open_Chords/
Lead: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Beginn...-C-Major-Scale/

Learnt the first two sections of the solo but am struggling to control it, I keep adding extra notes in without thinking, for instance on this section
|---------------------|---------------------|
|---------------------|---------------------|
|---------------------|---------------------|
|---------------------|--3----5----7------|
|--3----5----7------|---------------------|
|---------------------|---------------------|


Q Q H Q Q H
---------------------|---------------------|
---------------------|---------------------|
--5----4------------|--5----7----7--------|
------------7-------|---------------------|
---------------------|---------------------|
---------------------|---------------------|

On that last C before the two D's I sometimes pick it three times (down, up, down) before the first D, it sounds ok but it just happens unsure.gif

Must try harder.



Re-training my fingers for the C chord, never liked it rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE (Phil66 @ Aug 4 2014, 08:03 PM) *
OK, most of my problems from the weekend are sorted. Been having a practise on the two lessons
Rhythm: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Beginn..._1_Open_Chords/
Lead: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Beginn...-C-Major-Scale/

Learnt the first two sections of the solo but am struggling to control it, I keep adding extra notes in without thinking, for instance on this section
|---------------------|---------------------|
|---------------------|---------------------|
|---------------------|---------------------|
|---------------------|--3----5----7------|
|--3----5----7------|---------------------|
|---------------------|---------------------|


Q Q H Q Q H
---------------------|---------------------|
---------------------|---------------------|
--5----4------------|--5----7----7--------|
------------7-------|---------------------|
---------------------|---------------------|
---------------------|---------------------|

On that last C before the two D's I sometimes pick it three times (down, up, down) before the first D, it sounds ok but it just happens unsure.gif

Must try harder.



Re-training my fingers for the C chord, never liked it rolleyes.gif

Cheers

Phil


Hey Phill wink.gif

The whole idea here is to take it easy - I bet you are trying to gain some time, but you are actually losing that time biggrin.gif

I used to do the same some 13-14 years ago - 'Ah, how does that go? Oh, like that... Let's see now... uh oh... I can't do it yet... but why, why!!??' biggrin.gif

I didn't want to accept the fact that I needed to slow down and first understand and assimilate what I should be playing, before actually playing it. You will see that if you play slow enough, you will be able to pick the exact number of times, because you have CONTROL wink.gif

The whole idea is to watch the slow vids and then rehearse each phrase slow enough so that you can play it without any effort - that goes both for the phrases and for the C chord shape smile.gif

Now, to nail ANY chord shape, you can try the following exercise:

- set a metronome to 60 BPM in a 4/4 time signature - it'll sound like 1, 2, 3, 4, 1, 2, 3, 4... etc
- play the chord you need to master on each first beat in each bar, by raising your fingers off the fretboard on beat 3 and placing them back on on beat 1
- take care on landing with ALL the fingers at once in the necessary positions
- once you are comfy doing that at the 60 BPM, raise the speed wink.gif

Please let me know what you think on the matters at hand, ok?

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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Aug 5 2014, 06:53 AM) *
Hey Phill wink.gif

The whole idea here is to take it easy - I bet you are trying to gain some time, but you are actually losing that time biggrin.gif

I used to do the same some 13-14 years ago - 'Ah, how does that go? Oh, like that... Let's see now... uh oh... I can't do it yet... but why, why!!??' biggrin.gif

I didn't want to accept the fact that I needed to slow down and first understand and assimilate what I should be playing, before actually playing it. You will see that if you play slow enough, you will be able to pick the exact number of times, because you have CONTROL wink.gif

The whole idea is to watch the slow vids and then rehearse each phrase slow enough so that you can play it without any effort - that goes both for the phrases and for the C chord shape smile.gif

Now, to nail ANY chord shape, you can try the following exercise:

- set a metronome to 60 BPM in a 4/4 time signature - it'll sound like 1, 2, 3, 4, 1, 2, 3, 4... etc
- play the chord you need to master on each first beat in each bar, by raising your fingers off the fretboard on beat 3 and placing them back on on beat 1
- take care on landing with ALL the fingers at once in the necessary positions
- once you are comfy doing that at the 60 BPM, raise the speed wink.gif

Please let me know what you think on the matters at hand, ok?


Hello Cosmin,

Yeah thanks for that. Regarding the three note thing that I do, I can play it as the video says BUT, after a few times the extra notes come in, I don't think that they aren't musical, they fit with the beat ok, it's basically a triplet if I remember correctly but what annoys me is that it isn't what I am told to do in the video, it's breaking away from my instruction.

Regards the chords, I learnt early on that we should NEVER "walk the chord", you have re-emphasised that by saying that all fingers should land at once, and that way of practising is awesome thank you.

I haven't had a good start as today once again, life has taken over and I have had to sort some shit out for most of this evening mad.gif I didn't get home until 18:30 from 06:00 this morning, had some food, sorted the crap out and want to spend some time with my wife rolleyes.gif from 21:00.

Sorry, please don't give up on me and feel you are wasting your time, things will improve, I just started at the same time a load of shit rolled my way.

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Hey man wink.gif

No worries, no one is going anywhere! Just take your time and we'll take everything step by step, ok?

About those triplets - you need to stay focused. You are playing extra notes because after a few times you are losing focus most likely. Try to rehearse the specific phrase for let's say, 3 times in a row in perfect shape at a slow tempo. If you get past that, try 5 times and then 10 times. If you make a mistake, start over wink.gif

Once you make it past 10 times in a row without any mistake, raise the tempo. Once you get the phrase at the original recording tempo, implement it in the context and you are good to go!

Do we have a deal, Sir?



QUOTE (Phil66 @ Aug 5 2014, 07:27 PM) *
Hello Cosmin,

Yeah thanks for that. Regarding the three note thing that I do, I can play it as the video says BUT, after a few times the extra notes come in, I don't think that they aren't musical, they fit with the beat ok, it's basically a triplet if I remember correctly but what annoys me is that it isn't what I am told to do in the video, it's breaking away from my instruction.

Regards the chords, I learnt early on that we should NEVER "walk the chord", you have re-emphasised that by saying that all fingers should land at once, and that way of practising is awesome thank you.

I haven't had a good start as today once again, life has taken over and I have had to sort some shit out for most of this evening mad.gif I didn't get home until 18:30 from 06:00 this morning, had some food, sorted the crap out and want to spend some time with my wife rolleyes.gif from 21:00.

Sorry, please don't give up on me and feel you are wasting your time, things will improve, I just started at the same time a load of shit rolled my way.

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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Aug 6 2014, 07:21 AM) *
Hey man wink.gif

No worries, no one is going anywhere! Just take your time and we'll take everything step by step, ok?

About those triplets - you need to stay focused. You are playing extra notes because after a few times you are losing focus most likely. Try to rehearse the specific phrase for let's say, 3 times in a row in perfect shape at a slow tempo. If you get past that, try 5 times and then 10 times. If you make a mistake, start over wink.gif

Once you make it past 10 times in a row without any mistake, raise the tempo. Once you get the phrase at the original recording tempo, implement it in the context and you are good to go!

Do we have a deal, Sir?


Yes we have a deal wink.gif The triplet thing seems to be some expression from within, I don't want to sound pretentious but it just happens. I know I must control it or it will control me blink.gif

Cheers

Onwards and upwards wink.gif

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Hah!

Nice description man! I have a little exercise for ya, which will help you understand and assimilate pretty much any type of rhythmic subdivision.

- set a metronome at 60BPM and 4/4 time signature

- tap your foot to the metronome click

- clap your hands in triplets - that goes like 3 even claps over each beat of the metronome

1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3

Above, each '1' represents the beat performed by the foot over the metronome and the 1,2,3 are the hand claps smile.gif

Once you get this exercise even, you will feel triplets pretty well, I think smile.gif Let me know how it goes, ok?

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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Aug 7 2014, 09:14 AM) *
Hah!

Nice description man! I have a little exercise for ya, which will help you understand and assimilate pretty much any type of rhythmic subdivision.

- set a metronome at 60BPM and 4/4 time signature

- tap your foot to the metronome click

- clap your hands in triplets - that goes like 3 even claps over each beat of the metronome

1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3

Above, each '1' represents the beat performed by the foot over the metronome and the 1,2,3 are the hand claps smile.gif

Once you get this exercise even, you will feel triplets pretty well, I think smile.gif Let me know how it goes, ok?


Hello Cosmin,

Ok this is a test for video quality as well as to show you something. I have realised that on that lick I am not playing a triplet, it's more 3 quarter notes within the beat, correct me if I am wrong, which I probably am but you will get what I mean when you see it. I know the timing is a little off but I'd had a stressful day which I think shows in both videos.

Anyway, rip me apart man tongue.gif This is the first time anyone other than teachers and my wife have seen me "play"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DgYVFpqsCY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOk9VyFqW3o

Let me know how the video quality is for you please.

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Hey there!

Mate, the quality of the vids is very good - the image is clear and the sound as well! I had absolutely no trouble hearing what you are doing smile.gif

About the playing - indeed it's not a triplet, it's two 16th notes and an 8th note if I am not mistaken smile.gif As for the other video, the picking seems ok and the notes are clear - as in the lick video, you are playing very clean, which is a great asset!

The only thing I'd focus on would be the right hand movements - your picking hand is moving a bit too much - work slower with the metronome and focus on moving as little as possible wink.gif

Otherwise, about the video, if you could set the camera so that both your hands could be visible, that would be even nicer smile.gif

Let's see a full version of the lessons with the slower backings, if you are ready, if not and there are more questions, please do go ahead and ask, deal? wink.gif

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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Aug 8 2014, 07:46 AM) *
Hey there!

Mate, the quality of the vids is very good - the image is clear and the sound as well! I had absolutely no trouble hearing what you are doing smile.gif

About the playing - indeed it's not a triplet, it's two 16th notes and an 8th note if I am not mistaken smile.gif As for the other video, the picking seems ok and the notes are clear - as in the lick video, you are playing very clean, which is a great asset!

The only thing I'd focus on would be the right hand movements - your picking hand is moving a bit too much - work slower with the metronome and focus on moving as little as possible wink.gif

Otherwise, about the video, if you could set the camera so that both your hands could be visible, that would be even nicer smile.gif

Let's see a full version of the lessons with the slower backings, if you are ready, if not and there are more questions, please do go ahead and ask, deal? wink.gif


Thanks, I just wanted to show you those things to see if you could pick up on anything. I am away this weekend (life gets in the way again) so it may be Sunday evening when i post something. I am doing my best with my limited time unsure.gif

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Hey mate - no worries, write back when you are ready and back in action smile.gif

You should definitely PM Bogdan about this, as it's a tech issue which he can help out with for certain wink.gif

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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Aug 9 2014, 03:11 PM) *
Hey mate - no worries, write back when you are ready and back in action smile.gif

You should definitely PM Bogdan about this, as it's a tech issue which he can help out with for certain wink.gif

See you when you get back!


Ok, here's a video for you, I know it's crap but at least you will know I am trying. Any pointers about anything at all greatly appreciated. I do find it harder to play slower for some reason.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxJURN1YDWc...eature=youtu.be


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Hey man smile.gif

The playing is not bad at all - the only issue would be that you are playing different from what Bear is playing. So basically you are playing another formula in your video smile.gif Please watch videos 6 and 7 where bear plays the formula which is the same throughout the whole lesson - You will notice that if you count 4 beats for every chord change you will have 4 beats for every chord.

Now, the easiest thing will be to tap your foot and play the formula over the tapping - I'll make a little recording for you tomorrow as it's A LOT easier to understand in that way smile.gif Stay tuned wink.gif

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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Aug 10 2014, 11:05 PM) *
Hey man smile.gif

The playing is not bad at all - the only issue would be that you are playing different from what Bear is playing. So basically you are playing another formula in your video smile.gif Please watch videos 6 and 7 where bear plays the formula which is the same throughout the whole lesson - You will notice that if you count 4 beats for every chord change you will have 4 beats for every chord.

Now, the easiest thing will be to tap your foot and play the formula over the tapping - I'll make a little recording for you tomorrow as it's A LOT easier to understand in that way smile.gif Stay tuned wink.gif


Thanks Cosmin,

I'll do it again tonight. I had a pretty crazy weekend partying, not good at my age biggrin.gif and I wanted to get something to you so you could see what I'm doing.
I'll pay along with Bear a few times to see where I'm going wrong. I also feel that I am not relaxed enough when playing. When I watch you, Ben and Bear you look a lot looser in your strumming hand and your fretting hand looks very gentle on the strings. Does this come with time or is there something that can be done?
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Hey mate! Take it easy on the partying biggrin.gif

Well, in respect to your question - it comes with time indeed, the more you play, the more you'll know how to dose your powers smile.gif

Now, here's the recording I did so please listen to the formula against the metronome in order to hear how Bear's formula sounds at a very slow tempo smile.gif Please let me know if it's clear, so far, ok?

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OK, thanks, at the moment it feels a little alien to me. If I am correct the second strum is on the offbeat of beat 2. I am used to strumming down at the 1, 2, 3, 4 and up on the &, &, &, &.

I've just given it a little go and my foot goes down with my hand and I lose it mad.gif

I'll carry on though.

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\Ok, I pulled the acoustic out tonight, I don't like to stick to one guitar, my hands seem to get locked to one neck and if I change I struggle to get used to it rolleyes.gif Someone told me, how true it was I don't know, that never playing the same guitar two days in a row helps your fretting hand flexibility huh.gif

Anyway, please watch tonight's effort, it starts off a bit shaky but does get better, (I think).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Jyj_hx1BDg...eature=youtu.be

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Hey mate!

True statement smile.gif I always like to practice the same things on another guitar from a day to another - it feels different on the standard tuning and at the other extreme, on the baritone, because of the neck shape and fret size and because of the string tension, of course.

Now, the take is clearly something else! Good work here! You only need to lay back a little as now you are rushing things and you are a bit in font of the drum track. Please practice it focusing on playing more with the drums and not rushing in front of them.

Otherwise, your chords are clean, strumming looks and sounds healthy - right now, it's all about relaxing a bit wink.gif Deal?

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Cheers Cosmin,

What I found myself doing in that video was concentrating so much on the strumming pattern, (because that offbeat down strum throws me so much) that the drum beat was way back in the background.
Am I correct in thinking that the timing of the strumming on its own is ok (if you isolate it) but it isn't in sync with the drum?
I hope you understand what I'm trying to say.
I haven't played too much with backing tracks and have only used a metronome for scales.
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Cosmin,

Something isn't clicking, I have watched my video quite a few times but I can't fathom out the bad timing. I have sat here and watched Bear's video tapping my foot on the floor, finger on the desk, nodding my head, you name it, and then done the same with my video and I can't see the timing error. I'm currently trying to watch both videos at once to isolate it.

I may be a couple of days getting back to you but I'll try my best.

Phil

P.S I've tried tapping my foot when i play but it wants to follow my hand mad.gif

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