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Posted by: Nick325 Aug 9 2007, 09:18 PM

i was just wondering if there was a demo for ezdrummer because it looks really cool. and also i downloaded all of the nine parts for addictive drummer and its installed. so when i go to open it theres nothing there but uninstall it. help?

Posted by: Pavel Aug 9 2007, 09:22 PM

That's because it's used as a plug-in for your sequencer! It cannot be used as a stand-alone software! So you have to open it using your sequencer!

Posted by: MickeM Aug 9 2007, 09:23 PM

EZdrummer is a plugin so it's started from within a sequencer program (like Reaper). I guess addictive drummer is just a VST plug in aswell without a stand alone execution possibility.

Can't remember ever seeing a demo but there are instruction videos on their http://www.toontrack.com/ if I remember well, and sound examples.

Posted by: Nick325 Aug 9 2007, 09:28 PM

so i have to use it with a recording software reaper, audactiy

Posted by: MickeM Aug 9 2007, 09:34 PM

Yes!
Make a MIDI track and select "soft synth", choose "Addictive drummer"

Posted by: Pavel Aug 9 2007, 09:35 PM

Yes! Than you can go to VST Instruments menu (i use Cubase and there it is: devices->VST Instruments) and than select a plug-in - than the plug-in will open as a real program!

Posted by: Nick325 Aug 9 2007, 09:41 PM

well i have reaper open. i clicked insert> new midi item. then the thing comes up and then idk what to do next

Posted by: Pavel Aug 9 2007, 09:47 PM

I don't think it's in insert because you actually CREATE a midi track and write your own midi drum section but use plug-in to reproduce the sound of what you have written. So it must be somewhere else. Consult the Reaper's HELP to find how to use plug-ins in it!

Posted by: MickeM Aug 9 2007, 09:52 PM

I don't use Reaper but try this

Insert->new track
OR
Track->Add new track

The click FX (a button in the track you just created)

Select VST or VSTi and find addictive drummer there somewhere. Select and press ok.


I'm guessing that would give something, so until someone with Reaper experience try that.

Posted by: Nick325 Aug 9 2007, 09:53 PM

other than that i can only find view. show virtual midi keyboard

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Aug 9 2007, 10:16 PM

That was in fact absolutely accurate

Posted by: Nick325 Aug 9 2007, 10:23 PM

i tried that but addicting drummer isnt under VST or VSTi. when i download all nine parts and installed it, it said you have succesfully installed it. but now i cant open it or find the demo.

Posted by: Pavel Aug 10 2007, 12:05 AM

You have to put "Addictive Drums.dll" inside the VSTPLUGINS folder in C:\Program Files

Posted by: Nick325 Aug 10 2007, 12:29 AM

k pavel i did that and i was able to upload it in audacity not reaper. when i got it up in audacity a box came up and said "error while opening sound device. please check the output settings and the project sample rate"

Posted by: Pavel Aug 10 2007, 12:40 AM

Now, this is where i have nothing to say... Really don't know....

Posted by: Nick325 Aug 10 2007, 12:43 AM

ok maybe its just teh demo

Posted by: tonymiro Aug 10 2007, 05:47 AM

Hi Nick,
I'm guessing a bit here as I don't have/never used Addictive, so apologies if I'm wrong.

Addictive is a plug-in VST drum sampler/midi pattern player. As a plug in it has no stand alone ability and so can only be opened and programmed from a host sequencer as Pavel has said. Reaper is a software sequencer, audacity however is a sound editor - not quite the same thing.

Audacity lets you import a midi file and record/edit audio. At the moment I think you are trying to open a sound file rather than run the VST: error you're getting sounds like metadata tag and I don't think you'd get that off a midi file, only audio.

In Audacity you set audio sample format and rate in Edit>Preferences>Quality. The error I think you are getting is that these do not match that of the sample quality of Addictive file you are trying to import. Quick look at XLN's spec for Addictive - samples recorded as 24 bit/96k and then converted to 44.1Khz, variable bit depth - check the Audacity preferences (mine are on 44.1 and 32 bit, looks like you might need to change to 24 bit). Don't know what file format they rendered the kits to though wave/mp3/ogg/aiff or some specific one that only Addictive can read... Audacity is pretty good though at reading most audio formats but you might need to download and install http://www.mega-nerd.com/libsndfile/ first (probably not as Audacity usually can cope and should already have the file dll).


To use a VST in Audacity you first have to download and install Audacity's http://www.audacityteam.org/vst/. and then place VST's in the appropriate VST directory for Audacity. If you don't download and put in the enabler then Audacity can't see and use VSTs at all.

With the enabler in place you should then be able to launch Addictive. However, note that Audacity might not be able to generate Addictive's GUI, the screen with the drum kit where you load kits etc and tune them? To be honest I'm not sure how far Audacity will get trying to run Addictive as a plug-in - Audacity is really more for VST effects rather than instruments - it's a sound editor rather than a sequencer. But you never know...

You might still be able to import the midi files that come with Addictive however - that should let audacity open the pre-generated drum patterns BUT you might need some sort of midi drum table to generate the audio as a recognisable drum-kit . (Though looking at XLN's list Addictive doesn't support GM-Midi mapping or custom remapping, so I'm not sure what, if anything you might get. This btw isn't too surprising as I'd assume XLN have done it to stop people importing sample kits from non Addictive type drum programs. They've got to protect their software somehow .)

Now if none of the above works my money is on the issue being that Audacity doesn't understand/can't read Addictive's custom midi drum table which you can't change. If that is the case then you're best bet is to use Reaper.

Hope this helps and sorry I can't be more certain.

Cheers,
Tony

Posted by: Pavel Aug 19 2007, 01:25 AM

I had to create my own DRUM MAP to use Addictive Drums but i am totally satisfied with it! Works nice and smooth and allows total customization!

Posted by: Smurkas Aug 19 2007, 05:12 AM

In Reaper you have to set the path to the addictive drums.dll file. Go into the options menu and click on preferences. In the preferences dialog click on VST in the left menu and check the VST plugin path. Make sure that it points to the place where you have your dll file. If you have to, press rescan directory and you should be good to go. Addictive drums should show up under VSTi now when you click on Track FX.

Hope this helps.


/Marcus

Posted by: chast Sep 7 2007, 10:50 PM

So, here is the next one having some problems
I downloaded the Demo Version of Addictive Drums, everything alright.
At the moment im that far, that I can see Addictive Drums in Reaper, but I dont get it how I can create some drums now

Posted by: Pavel Sep 7 2007, 11:25 PM

Now you need to create a MIDI track, assign Addictive Drums to it, assign a drum map to it and than when you open a MIDI track you will see a grid and all the elements of a drum set. Once you manage to create this - you'll know what to do later on.

Posted by: chast Sep 7 2007, 11:41 PM

Thank you Pavel, it works now
But I think it will take a time since I can create my own drums

Posted by: Pavel Sep 8 2007, 12:10 AM

It's not difficult at all! I was also pretty confused when i first tried to make drums but when you get a hang of it it's quite simple!

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Sep 8 2007, 12:40 AM

Go to the beats window in AD, pick a beat you like and drag it onto a reaper track. Make sure the Midi from the reaper track is sending to AD as well ...