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Posted by: Jerry Arcidiacono Jan 14 2010, 06:05 PM

Hi there,
as topic description said, I need some suggestions and opinions from IEMs users (singers or pro musicians).
I might need a trasmitter + receiver.
I'm reading the differences between VHF and UHF systems, so I already know a little about this topic.
Any experience to share about brands and models, even with some interaction/problem with some other wireless systems??

Thanks!

Posted by: Daniel Realpe Jan 18 2010, 05:48 PM

I have only one experience with in-ear systems. It was at a big event, opening for Dream Theater in Bogota. The mix sounds really dry in your head even with lots of reverb on it. I guess it's something you get used to.

I don't really know of brands, VHF is more stable.

Posted by: Jerry Arcidiacono Jan 19 2010, 08:29 PM

QUOTE (Daniel Realpe @ Jan 18 2010, 05:48 PM)

I have only one experience with in-ear systems. It was at a big event, opening for Dream Theater in Bogota. The mix sounds really dry in your head even with lots of reverb on it. I guess it's something you get used to.

I don't really know of brands, VHF is more stable.

Thank you Daniel for your answer. I did already used some systems but they weren't mine and I didn't know the brands. I still like regular monitors but the trend here is to use IEMs in some pop-rock context. Let's see how things will going in the next years.

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Jan 20 2010, 07:57 PM

I never used it, but I asked a friend of mine who is guitar player, and the drummer of his band has some Shure system around 400e. He says it's not good enough, the sound didn't come trough nicely. The drummer once used 900e in-ear system, and that was good. Besides that, he said that the most important thing is for the musician then to have a good tone tech, because in-ear can be tricky and very sensitive thing to adjust. Ideally tone tech should be able to monitor the aux send on the mixer for the in-ear system to see if everything is balanced nicely. This leads us to the fact that one aux channel has to be configured specifically for in-ear (because not all musicians need same mix). If there is one dedicated aux channel it's relatively easy for setup, but on most club mixers there aren't as many separate aux groups to configure, and if the club has monitor system on stage, some aux buses will already be taken for monitors. Not sure if the mix on monitor speakers is the same as for in-ear.
Just some thoughts I heard that would be good to consider, I repeat I haven't used it myself, so it is best way to test it live and see how it works. I hope it works well, I was thinking about getting one too, but I was wondering where and how often I would use it to justify the cost.

Posted by: Jerry Arcidiacono Jan 21 2010, 11:45 AM

QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Jan 20 2010, 07:57 PM)

I never used it, but I asked a friend of mine who is guitar player, and the drummer of his band has some Shure system around 400e. He says it's not good enough, the sound didn't come trough nicely. The drummer once used 900e in-ear system, and that was good. Besides that, he said that the most important thing is for the musician then to have a good tone tech, because in-ear can be tricky and very sensitive thing to adjust. Ideally tone tech should be able to monitor the aux send on the mixer for the in-ear system to see if everything is balanced nicely. This leads us to the fact that one aux channel has to be configured specifically for in-ear (because not all musicians need same mix). If there is one dedicated aux channel it's relatively easy for setup, but on most club mixers there aren't as many separate aux groups to configure, and if the club has monitor system on stage, some aux buses will already be taken for monitors. Not sure if the mix on monitor speakers is the same as for in-ear.
Just some thoughts I heard that would be good to consider, I repeat I haven't used it myself, so it is best way to test it live and see how it works. I hope it works well, I was thinking about getting one too, but I was wondering where and how often I would use it to justify the cost.

Yeah, I do know how the signal is routing through the stage, it's pretty the same thing with floor monitors or IEMs. As you wrote at the end, I'm just wondering how much I will use the transmitter and the receiver in the future

I already own the IE-20 XB M-Audio earphones and they sound pretty good. I'm not the best singer in the world and their quality is good enough for me

The problem is that the transmitter+receiver still cost a lot!
It would be cool to play without any wires over the stage. A friend of mine told me that there is already a single "box" which is doing two jobs. It receives the signal from the transmitter for you earphones while it's sending the signal from your guitar towards your amp system.
Let's googling...

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Jan 23 2010, 02:16 AM

Sure, just brought up the aux grouping topic because it was on of the main reasons why I didn't go on with the buy. I wasn't sure what mixer will be on the spot etc..
I hope you find the solution, and I hope it will not be that pricey. These systems are great, but do cost a lot. For big stages they are great, but for small clubs they aren't really a necessity.

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