14:48:36 The Spartan: Andrew's Theory Room: hey everyone
14:48:47 GuitarDude: Andrew's Theory Room: hi
14:48:53 Andrew Cockburn: Andrew's Theory Room: HI guys
14:51:13 The Spartan: Andrew's Theory Room: has anyone tried the Relative pitch ear training course by David Lucas Burge?
14:51:30 Andrew Cockburn: Andrew's Theory Room: not me
14:51:34 GuitarDude: Andrew's Theory Room: no
14:52:07 Andrew Cockburn: Andrew's Theory Room: How much is it?
14:52:18 The Spartan: Andrew's Theory Room: i heard it's great for ear training...i wanted to know more about it cuz my ear kinda sucks ..got any advice for me??
14:52:33 The Spartan: Andrew's Theory Room: it costs around 200$
14:52:59 GuitarDude: Andrew's Theory Room: thats alot
14:53:23 Andrew Cockburn: Andrew's Theory Room: Sounds pricey
14:53:40 Andrew Cockburn: Andrew's Theory Room: Ear trainig ... lets see
14:53:52 The Spartan: Andrew's Theory Room: 40 CD's with only 200 i don't think it's that expensive
14:53:57 Andrew Cockburn: Andrew's Theory Room: I am thinking about a lesson for this, but haven;t written it yet
14:54:00 GuitarDude: Andrew's Theory Room: oh xD
14:54:15 Andrew Cockburn: Andrew's Theory Room: 40 CDs?
14:54:42 The Spartan: Andrew's Theory Room: yeah
14:54:42 Andrew Cockburn: Andrew's Theory Room: What do you want to be able to do after you have trained your ear?
14:54:55 Andrew Cockburn: Andrew's Theory Room: What do you think it will do for you?
14:55:07 The Spartan: Andrew's Theory Room: recognize the notes that i hear...n chords also
14:55:25 GuitarDude: Andrew's Theory Room: i can do that =P
14:55:30 Andrew Cockburn: Andrew's Theory Room: ok, you can do that without spending $200 I would think
14:55:52 The Spartan: Andrew's Theory Room: maybe it'll help...my ear REALY sucks... i've been playing for around 3 years n can't play by ear
14:55:53 Andrew Cockburn: Andrew's Theory Room: The key to relative pitch is understanding intervals as a first step
14:56:08 Andrew Cockburn: Andrew's Theory Room: then practicing listening to them in isolation
14:56:18 Andrew Cockburn: Andrew's Theory Room: There are web sites that can help with that
14:57:10 The Spartan: Andrew's Theory Room: i've visited some of them...but they make it sound sooo complicated...b6 n stuff that i've never heard about
14:57:16 Andrew Cockburn: Andrew's Theory Room: Do you understand intervals and such?
14:57:18 Andrew Cockburn: Andrew's Theory Room: Ah ok
14:57:29 Andrew Cockburn: Andrew's Theory Room: That's just naming really
14:57:52 Andrew Cockburn: Andrew's Theory Room: um, I think I will re-write my lesson on intervals a little
14:57:59 Andrew Cockburn: Andrew's Theory Room: I don;t include that terminology
14:58:01 Andrew Cockburn: Andrew's Theory Room: and I should
14:58:07 Andrew Cockburn: Andrew's Theory Room: I was going to put it in a later lesson
14:58:19 Andrew Cockburn: Andrew's Theory Room: but I think it is more important than that
14:59:11 Andrew Cockburn: Andrew's Theory Room: But the point is you need to understand the ojtervals or you canlt put names to them - if you can;t do that you can;t practice identifying them :
14:59:14 Andrew Cockburn: Andrew's Theory Room:
14:59:25 The Spartan: Andrew's Theory Room: aha
14:59:35 The Spartan: Andrew's Theory Room: i'll try to understand them
14:59:46 GuitarDude: Andrew's Theory Room: Theory is makeing
14:59:47 Andrew Cockburn: Andrew's Theory Room: Read my lesson as a first step
14:59:58 Andrew Cockburn: Andrew's Theory Room: I'll add some extra stuff at the weekend
14:59:58 GuitarDude: Andrew's Theory Room: me confused
15:00:18 Andrew Cockburn: Andrew's Theory Room: Theory is easy
You just need to start at the beinning and work through it
15:00:23 The Spartan: Andrew's Theory Room: should i memorize the naming??..for example a perfect fourth above E would be A ...should i memorize that kind of stuff?
15:00:47 Andrew Cockburn: Andrew's Theory Room: No, that's not really ear training that's memorisation
15:00:58 Andrew Cockburn: Andrew's Theory Room: I mean its useful to know it, but that is a different skill
15:01:11 The Spartan: Andrew's Theory Room: aha
15:01:32 Andrew Cockburn: Andrew's Theory Room: Ear training is being able to hear a note like an E but without being told what it is, then hear an A and say "that's a 4th
15:02:05 Andrew Cockburn: Andrew's Theory Room: Perfect pitch means you can not only do that but name the notes as well
15:02:13 Andrew Cockburn: Andrew's Theory Room: only a few people have that
15:02:59 Andrew Cockburn: Andrew's Theory Room: BTW, b6 means flattened 6th which is the same as a minor 6th
15:03:27 The Spartan: Andrew's Theory Room: David who made the relative pitch trainig has another course...it's called Perfect Pitch eartrainig
15:04:13 The Spartan: Andrew's Theory Room: he claims anyone can have a perfect pitch with his course
15:04:56 The Spartan: Andrew's Theory Room: i've heard that no body has it unless he or she's been playing since childhood
15:05:00 Andrew Cockburn: Andrew's Theory Room: People disagree about this. I think it can be trained
15:05:27 Andrew Cockburn: Andrew's Theory Room: I have perfect pitch (or close) for guitar string notes)
15:05:37 Andrew Cockburn: Andrew's Theory Room: I can tune a guitar pretty accurately just by ear
15:05:47 GuitarDude: Andrew's Theory Room: i cant xO
15:06:01 Andrew Cockburn: Andrew's Theory Room: I usually get it within a semitone
15:06:06 Andrew Cockburn: Andrew's Theory Room: so not perfect
15:06:15 Andrew Cockburn: Andrew's Theory Room: but I do have good relative pitch
15:06:15 GuitarDude: Andrew's Theory Room: most of my friends can
15:06:24 The Spartan: Andrew's Theory Room: aha
15:07:05 The Spartan: Andrew's Theory Room: btw ...the realtive pitch course is 300$ no 200 i just checked :s
15:07:11 Andrew Cockburn: Andrew's Theory Room: ouch
15:07:11 The Spartan: Andrew's Theory Room: *not
15:07:26 Andrew Cockburn: Andrew's Theory Room: You'd have to be pretty keen to drop that amount of money
15:07:37 Andrew Cockburn: Andrew's Theory Room: there is nothing hard about it, its just practice
15:07:48 The Spartan: Andrew's Theory Room: lol yeah
15:07:51 Andrew Cockburn: Andrew's Theory Room: and some basic knowledge
15:09:47 GuitarDude: Andrew's Theory Room: im having a gig this Saturday =P
15:14:26 Andrew Cockburn: Andrew's Theory Room: Cool - where?
15:14:39 GuitarDude: Andrew's Theory Room: at a party
15:15:06 Andrew Cockburn: Andrew's Theory Room: nice - hope they pay you in beer
15:15:21 GuitarDude: Andrew's Theory Room: hope not im just 14 xD
15:16:38 Andrew Cockburn: Andrew's Theory Room: LOL - sorry !
15:16:58 Andrew Cockburn: Andrew's Theory Room: On the internet noone knows your age, shoe size, anything !
15:17:24 GuitarDude: Andrew's Theory Room: hehe we are makeing a new album soon =P
15:18:20 Andrew Cockburn: Andrew's Theory Room: good luck with that
15:18:35 Andrew Cockburn: Andrew's Theory Room: damn gotta run, gotta take a business call - shouldn't really be here
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15:20:16 GuitarDude: Andrew's Theory Room: or two of them xD
16:29:58 Suib: Andrew's Theory Room: hey
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