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Posted by: Darius Wave Mar 25 2013, 02:34 PM
Welcome to my first ever collaboration at GMC called
In this one I would like You to work especially on your phrasing. Try to play the sadiest melodies ever. Use whatever You like - clean, crunch or heavy distorted tone. Please - make shure Your guitar is in tune. Try to tune it on frets (not on open strings). Backing track is exported with precise fit to the time measure. You can import it to Your Daw, set the tempo to 125 bpm and move the backingtrack drawing exactly to the point zero of the session. This will give You perfect synchro and will make my mixing work much easier.
This is an audio collaboration. All You have to do is post here Your take (solo mixed with backing track) for reference and send me only the guitar solo track (remember to export file exactly from the point zero of time measure in Your DAW)
Backing track:
poor_puppy_backingtrack_125.mp3 ( 8.79MB )
: 402There are 5 free slots for 5 solos. Each section is equal to one full chord progression. I will record my solo over the "no-drums intro" then You go:
1:11 - 1:41
1:42 - 2:11
2:12 - 2:42
2:43 - 3:13
3:14 - 3:45
Chord progression:
4/4 Em | Em | C | C | Em | Em | C | D | Em | Em | c | C | Am | Am | B | B |
Key - E-minor
Tempo - 125 bpm
Scales You can use are E-minor + E-harmonic minor (E-harmonic minor is a "must" on the B chord because it contains the D# note).
Example -
Deadline - 07.04.2013
Inspirations:
You can go through some Pink Floyd / David Gilmour's playing to adjust Your feeling to the track.
Collaboration results and final mix available here : http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=48561
Posted by: gregc1 Mar 25 2013, 02:59 PM
Hey Darius, I love it. I'm in for sure!
Just a couple questions. I am having trouble with the link to the backing track, it doesn't seem to be working for me just going to a broken page. For the 5 solo slots, should we record over all sections or just focus on recording one of the slots/segments? And finally, the due date. I'm assuming that is April 7th, not July 4th? July 4th doesn't seem logical (4 month collab) but I just wanted to be sure, I know we read dates differently on either side of the pond.
Posted by: Darius Wave Mar 25 2013, 03:20 PM
Thanks for the info maaaan! Seems like there was a problem while adding the link to the post as an url. Now it should work fine 
07.04.2013 - 7th of April 2013 Waiting for Your aproach Every slot is the same. I will mix them together as a random order.
If You're able to sync the track with Your Daw I could easlly cut and move according to the bars...So...everyone can fit the first slot and I will then edit and move
Posted by: gregc1 Mar 25 2013, 03:26 PM
07.04.2013 - 7th of April 2013 Waiting for Your aproach Every slot is the same. I will mix them together as a random order.If You're able to sync the track with Your Daw I could easlly cut and move according to the bars...So...everyone can fit the first slot and I will then edit and move
Got it! Link works now.
I figured that was the date but just wanted to double check, and not a problem on the synching to the backing track. Really looking forward to hearing the takes on this one, I really do love this style and Gilmour is one of my all time favorites.
Posted by: Darius Wave Mar 25 2013, 03:27 PM
So that's +1 for ya mate!
Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Mar 25 2013, 03:32 PM
Awesome! It's great to have your first collab at GMC Darius! The backing is really cool and your playing on the video is Superb!
I also liked the tone that you got using that free plug in! Great job.
Posted by: Darius Wave Mar 25 2013, 03:36 PM
Thanx Gabriel! We've gotta do some online jam while I dig all the tech issues
Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Mar 25 2013, 04:03 PM
Cool!
Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 25 2013, 04:20 PM
Cool collab.
I'm excited to see what you guys do!
Posted by: Jouve Mar 25 2013, 04:23 PM
It's awesome! Gotta join as soon i get my gtr fixed 
Posted by: Sensible Jones Mar 25 2013, 04:53 PM
Hey Darius, great BT, I'm in!!
Posted by: coffeeman Mar 26 2013, 03:48 AM
I would love to participate, I'm in.
Posted by: Patrik Berg Mar 26 2013, 04:07 AM
count me in Darius.
Posted by: Darius Wave Mar 26 2013, 09:37 AM
Great! So waiting for Your takes If there'll be more than 5 solos that's ok...I make some extra bars in the backing track
Posted by: Bogdan Radovic Mar 27 2013, 03:27 PM
WOW - very cool vibe of the backing track!
Looking forward to hearing what you guys come up with over this one.
Posted by: mroberts70 Mar 27 2013, 04:15 PM
I'll be sad for sure if I don't make this one....
Count me in big D!
Posted by: Darius Wave Mar 27 2013, 04:46 PM
Just do it and I'll se how many of You will made before deadline...As I said...I will make some extra place if there'll be more than 5 solos
Posted by: Patrik Berg Mar 28 2013, 01:39 AM
Hey Darius,
hopefully this will bring a tear or two
solo starts at 1:11.
https://soundcloud.com/patrik-berg-2/darius-collaboration
I have sent you a PM with the guitar only track.
Posted by: gregc1 Mar 28 2013, 02:53 AM
Nice man! Really good stuff, felt very melodic to me.
Definitely had to grab a tissue.
Posted by: AK Rich Mar 28 2013, 07:49 AM
hopefully this will bring a tear or two
solo starts at 1:11.
I have sent you a PM with the guitar only track.
That was beautiful man!
sniffle, my sad smiley needs tears Here is my shot at it Darius. I am glad to be a part of your first collaboration! This is a very emotional backing man thanks , it was hard to stop after 30 seconds of playing time. Poor puppy
PS: I just went ahead and played over the same section that Patrik did since you said you could move the tracks around as needed, I hope it's ok , If not let me know
[attachment=31335:Poor_Puppy_collab.mp3]
[attachment=31336:Poor_Pup..._backing.mp3]
Posted by: Darius Wave Mar 28 2013, 09:57 AM
AK Rich...the sound and the whole idea is beautiful...If I could only ask You to correct that over-bend at 1:18 (according to the 1st link). It sound like You played about 1 half step too far (You can hear the major third instead of minor third that should be there Also....1:33...fret buzz. Please correct those two things and this will be great solo
Posted by: gregc1 Mar 29 2013, 12:16 AM
Here's my take on this sad collab.
https://soundcloud.com/gregc1/poorpup-collab
My bare guitar file should be set to start on the first beat of the first measure of the solo section. Also, nice one AK!
Posted by: AK Rich Mar 29 2013, 03:22 AM
Also....1:33...fret buzz. Please correct those two things and this will be great solo Hey thanks Darius!
While I agree that the bend at 1:18 is a bit pitchy and slightly sharp, I can't hear that it reaches a major 3rd of G#. When I play it again and check it with my tuner I can only see it being 10 to 15 cents sharp which is closer to the minor 3rd G than the major 3rd G#. I know my ear isn't perfect but I didn't think it was that bad. 
Could it be that the trem vibrato I used combined with a sharp note took it slightly higher and making it closer to the major 3rd?
Anyway, I went ahead and re-recorded it and tried to make it closer to the correct pitch and with a vibrato that wassn't quite as wide as the first take. Also I fixed the buzzing note at 1:33.
I have a couple different mixes for you to choose from. I hope one of these mixes works better. Thanks again for the feedback!
[attachment=31346:Poor_Pup...ollab2.0.mp3] [attachment=31347:Poor_Pup..._backing.mp3]
[attachment=31348:Poor_Pup...ollab2.1.mp3] [attachment=31349:Poor_Pup..._backing.mp3]
My bare guitar file should be set to start on the first beat of the first measure of the solo section. Also, nice one AK!
Wow! That was truly a great take Greg! And thank you!
Posted by: gregc1 Mar 29 2013, 03:09 PM
Thanks AK! On your 2 re-recordings, I think you nailed it with the second set. So damn spooky sounding and I love the islandy tone. Reminds me of a hunted beach or something. 
Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 29 2013, 03:36 PM
https://soundcloud.com/gregc1/poorpup-collab
My bare guitar file should be set to start on the first beat of the first measure of the solo section. Also, nice one AK!
Greg that sounded killer man!
Posted by: gregc1 Mar 29 2013, 03:40 PM
Thank you Trey, I really appreciate it. Waiting on your take brother!
Posted by: Ulrik Mar 29 2013, 03:55 PM
hopefully this will bring a tear or two
solo starts at 1:11.
https://soundcloud.com/patrik-berg-2/darius-collaboration
I have sent you a PM with the guitar only track.
Nice. I'm listening to this and watching big heavy snow flakes fall from the sky. Fits quite good together
Posted by: Darius Wave Mar 29 2013, 10:52 PM
AK Rich...second mix is ok and You made the correct pith Let it be this way Believe me...my first feeling in Your first version was like a major third
Greg...You did a great job! All of You guys play the way i think it's Your solo fit each other Thats great!
Posted by: AK Rich Mar 30 2013, 02:36 AM
You're welcome Greg! Yeah man that take was stellar, totally pro bro!
And thanks again! I appreciate it Let it be this way Believe me...my first feeling in Your first version was like a major third Greg...You did a great job! All of You guys play the way i think it's Your solo fit each other
Thats great! Cool Darius thanks man! And thank you for bringing the pitch issue to my attention , I probably wouldn't have noticed it if you hadn't said anything , and the buzzing note I completely overlooked as well, Good looking out man thanks again!
Posted by: Sensible Jones Apr 1 2013, 05:25 PM
Here's my take Darius:-
https://soundcloud.com/sensiblejones-1/poor-puppy-wbt
https://soundcloud.com/sensiblejones-1/poor-puppy-nbt
Posted by: Darius Wave Apr 1 2013, 08:30 PM
nicely done Mr. Jones I see You enjoyed the backing track so much that You didn't left any space for the others ha ha )) I like Your tone and some phrasing concepts but I will have to ask You to redo the thing The part with no drums is where I start the theme. Then Everyone has something like 40 seconds for his solo. Because some of players already did the "very sad playing" parts I would like to ask You for a favor - to do more agressive part (like You did on the bridge pickup in the ending of BT). Please...give Yourself some more breathing the playing...live some more long notes withing those licks....show me Your vibrato ;D That would be great to put Your solo as a breaking part of tension build in the whole mix of all solos
Posted by: Sensible Jones Apr 1 2013, 08:46 PM
I see You enjoyed the backing track so much that You didn't left any space for the others ha ha )) I like Your tone and some phrasing concepts but I will have to ask You to redo the thing The part with no drums is where I start the theme. Then Everyone has something like 40 seconds for his solo. Because some of players already did the "very sad playing" parts I would like to ask You for a favor - to do more agressive part (like You did on the bridge pickup in the ending of BT). Please...give Yourself some more breathing the playing...live some more long notes withing those licks....show me Your vibrato ;D That would be great to put Your solo as a breaking part of tension build in the whole mix of all solos Sorry Darius!!Yeah, I'll do a new take as you suggest!!!
So, just once through the chord progression, yes?
Posted by: Darius Wave Apr 1 2013, 08:52 PM
that's correct my freind D
Posted by: Sensible Jones Apr 1 2013, 09:05 PM
OK, will have that up tomorrow for you!
Posted by: tonyk Apr 2 2013, 09:55 AM
No tears
https://soundcloud.com/tonyk525/puppy
https://soundcloud.com/tonyk525/puppy-solo
Posted by: Darius Wave Apr 2 2013, 11:03 AM
no tears You say...but it's quite sad anyway
Posted by: Patrik Berg Apr 3 2013, 01:05 AM
here is the same recording you requested Darius, but reduced gain and quicker fade at the end.
https://soundcloud.com/patrik-berg-2/darius-collaboration-1
https://soundcloud.com/patrik-berg-2/darius-collaboration-guitar-1
Posted by: ztevie Apr 3 2013, 03:40 PM
I'll try to find time to make one. Question: Is it ok to let some bending squeal come in just before and a second or two after the time frame? A bit awkward otherwise...?
Posted by: Darius Wave Apr 3 2013, 03:52 PM
If Would be great if You could fit the track remembering that someone else will play on the time You wanted to already start You solo, or You will also interfere with next player solo. You can try and maybe I can fin good place within other takes so that could fit well. Send us Your proposition and we'll see how this works.
Posted by: Sensible Jones Apr 4 2013, 05:06 PM
Re-takes as requested Darius! Hope this is to your liking!!
https://soundcloud.com/sensiblejones-1/poor-puppy-take-2-wbt
https://soundcloud.com/sensiblejones-1/poor-puppy-take-2-nbt
Posted by: gregc1 Apr 4 2013, 05:31 PM
Damn Mr. Jones, I thought that sounded awesome.
I can not wait to hear how this thing turns out.
Posted by: Darius Wave Apr 4 2013, 06:29 PM
https://soundcloud.com/sensiblejones-1/poor-puppy-take-2-wbt
https://soundcloud.com/sensiblejones-1/poor-puppy-take-2-nbt
Goota change Your nick name my friend
- Sensitive Jones )) That would be cool for building up the tension It's very nice to hear how You all squeeze this poor puppy from the inside
As You can hear while listening to each other - You all got very uniqe sense of phrasing and feeling emotions according to the backing track. That's gonna be something really cool after mixing
Posted by: Sensible Jones Apr 4 2013, 06:59 PM
I can not wait to hear how this thing turns out.
Thanks Greg, appreciate the compliment!!
I think this one will sound great when finished!!
- Sensitive Jones )) That would be cool for building up the tension Hehe!! I can't change it, it was a name given to me from an old lyricist friend of mine!
Sensitive must be my brother!!!
Posted by: HungryForHeaven Apr 5 2013, 01:42 PM
Here is my take.
https://soundcloud.com/h4hgmc/poor-puppy-collaboration-h4h-1
The solo track seems to take a while for Soundcloud to process, so I'll have to add it later.
Edit: Which seems to be now.
https://soundcloud.com/h4hgmc/poor-puppy-collaboration-h4h
Posted by: Darius Wave Apr 7 2013, 01:04 PM
HungryForHeaven very nice solo! I think You and Jones will go in the end as a tension builders Just reminding it's a last day to send Your solos. This week I'll mix alltogether and put here the results
Posted by: Darius Wave Apr 7 2013, 10:48 PM
Just wanted to share with You a demo of new SD set I made on this backing track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9O6VqNcZ94
Posted by: Sensible Jones Apr 8 2013, 12:30 AM
Beautiful Darius!! Love that tone!!
Posted by: HungryForHeaven Apr 8 2013, 06:29 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9O6VqNcZ94
Very nice!
I never saw "whammy bar tapping" before.
Composition is great, tone is fantastic. I especially fell for the ascending, lightly palm muted, fast lick at 3:08.
Posted by: Darius Wave Apr 8 2013, 09:42 AM
Thanks guys! Ok - so we reached the deadline. Time to start the mixing job
I've all posts once again.
Please confirm the informations on the list. Some of You declared their solos but I haven't seen them yet or Maybe I've missed something. By far that's how it looks:
1. HungryForHaven - all complete
2. Sensibile Jones - all complete
3. Patrick Berg - all complete
4. Tonyk - all complete
5. AK Rich - all complete
6. gregc1 - all complete
7. Jouve - received the full mix but no "only guitar" track included
8. coffeman - declared, no recordings
9.mroberts70 - declared, no recordings
10. ztevie - don't know it he found a time to do this
If You see something is wrong above, please correct.
Posted by: ztevie Apr 8 2013, 11:36 AM
I've all posts once again.
Please confirm the informations on the list. Some of You declared their solos but I haven't seen them yet or Maybe I've missed something. By far that's how it looks:
1. HungryForHaven - all complete
2. Sensibile Jones - all complete
3. Patrick Berg - all complete
4. Tonyk - all complete
5. AK Rich - all complete
6. gregc1 - all complete
7. Jouve - received the full mix but no "only guitar" track included
8. coffeman - declared, no recordings
9.mroberts70 - declared, no recordings
10. ztevie - don't know it he found a time to do this
If You see something is wrong above, please correct.
Sorry, dude... You'll have to count me out. Had something cooking but couldn't glue it together in time, too busy this weekend. Next time, maybe...
Posted by: Darius Wave Apr 8 2013, 11:39 AM
Ok Ztevie...thanx for the clearance! Hope to see You joining the jam next time
Posted by: Darius Wave Apr 12 2013, 10:16 AM
Just wanted to inform You that POOR PUPPY MIX will be available this weekend. I had to make things clear - I mean who declared and who realy recorded the solo. I also had to define the order of solos and seems like they all together sound great and build the tension like it should be Thank You for Your nicely done job
Posted by: Sensible Jones Apr 12 2013, 03:36 PM
Looking forward to the Final Mix Darius!!
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