Pedal Or New Pickups?, If I want to increase pinch harmonics.... |
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Dec 27 2009, 06:44 PM
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Nothing really to add, except that if You already got a Tonelab and can't get enough gain out of that, a tube screamer or booster wouldn'nt help either.... but also keep in mind that in order to have the "bite" and make the pinch harmonics work, fresh strings is a must, old stirngs really kill all harmonics. However, I find it a little strange, since I have no problem to get enough gain out of my strats.. but of course its a matter of what sound You're after.
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Dec 27 2009, 09:03 PM
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For those Zakk-wylde-Dimebag-Darrell types of harmonics you have to have lots of gain. And check that they both use humbuckers and high gain amps.
Check Slipknot's guitarist. He uses a Telecaster but he changed the pick ups to humbuckers. They really use pinched harmonics. Jim Root Telecaster -------------------- Visit my:
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Dec 27 2009, 10:34 PM
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QUOTE (Daniel Realpe @ Dec 27 2009, 10:03 AM)  For those Zakk-wylde-Dimebag-Darrell types of harmonics you have to have lots of gain. And check that they both use humbuckers and high gain amps. Check Slipknot's guitarist. He uses a Telecaster but he changed the pick ups to humbuckers. They really use pinched harmonics. Jim Root Telecaster Thanks Daniel... It's interesting to see that the Tele is getting some attention in the metal realm! I've always thought of it as a twangy country type of guitar, but John 5 and others are changing it's image! 
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Dec 27 2009, 11:18 PM
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Hmmm, I wouldn't put humbuckers on a strat, I'd rather buy another type of guitar since the necks are screwed and not optimized for sustain as for instance Gibsons are.... Telecasters is more massive though, but still the neck is screwed.... But maybe that makes no difference if You play loud enough anyway!!!
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Dec 28 2009, 12:24 AM
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QUOTE (VictorUK @ Dec 28 2009, 12:03 AM) Both, you need the pickups with enough output and a pedal to ride the sustain. What? A volume pedal maybe? When I'm running my LP in my Marshall 2203 loud enough, I kinda have full sustain on every note....  //Staffay -------------------- Guitars: Ibanez AM-200, Ibanez GB-10, Fender Stratocaster Classic Player, Warmouth Custom Built, Suhr Classic Strat, Gibson Les Paul Standard 2003, Ibanez steel-string Amps: Fender Hot Rod Deluxe, Marshall JMP 2103, AER 60 Effects: BOSS DD-20, Danelectro Trans. Overdrive, TC-Electronics G-Major, Dunlop Wah-wah, Original SansAmp, BOSS DD-2 Music by Staffy can be found at: Staffay at MySpace |
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Dec 28 2009, 11:59 AM
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QUOTE (Hammerhead @ Dec 28 2009, 03:16 AM) i] and was wondering if a pedal could help drive the signal like a hotter pickup would? or if I have to choose between my current pickups or new ones if I want the sounds I described  [/i]In terms of output a booster/overdrive can put the signal up to the same level as a humbucker, but not in terms of the TONE. If You shall manipulating the tone, you should rather go for a distorsion device/sonic enhancer like a maximizer or something similar that ADDS some overtones to the sound. A booster/overdrive just increases gain. But maybe thats all You need? You have to experiment a little here.... In my opinion, I dont think switching pick-ups will make that big difference since the one's You got is pretty hot..... unless You make a hole in the body and installs humbuckers of course. The technique aspect here is far more interesting, and the strings as I already mention. If I could afford it, I would have changed them every week! Even that they looks new, they loose the sound by just picking up particles from the air.. (my own theory.. ) But there is also these new strings, Elixir, that we discussed in another thread, try them!//Staffay -------------------- Guitars: Ibanez AM-200, Ibanez GB-10, Fender Stratocaster Classic Player, Warmouth Custom Built, Suhr Classic Strat, Gibson Les Paul Standard 2003, Ibanez steel-string Amps: Fender Hot Rod Deluxe, Marshall JMP 2103, AER 60 Effects: BOSS DD-20, Danelectro Trans. Overdrive, TC-Electronics G-Major, Dunlop Wah-wah, Original SansAmp, BOSS DD-2 Music by Staffy can be found at: Staffay at MySpace |
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Dec 28 2009, 01:16 PM
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Randall amp is perfectly capable of producing harmonics on it's own. And YJM strat is good enough guitar too. Just crank the gain, and try to find the sweet spot. It seems to me you didn't quite mastered the harmonics technique yet, they can be usually done anyway you like. Crank the gain and volume for sustain, and rehearse.
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Dec 28 2009, 07:41 PM
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QUOTE (Daniel Realpe @ Dec 27 2009, 05:03 PM) For those Zakk-wylde-Dimebag-Darrell types of harmonics you have to have lots of gain. And check that they both use humbuckers and high gain amps. Check Slipknot's guitarist. He uses a Telecaster but he changed the pick ups to humbuckers. They really use pinched harmonics. Jim Root Telecaster wow, that´s an add! I don't like so much fender guitars, and less telecaster model. but he really got a great tone! thank you! btw, sorry for off topic! XD |
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Dec 29 2009, 12:30 AM
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QUOTE (VictorUK @ Dec 28 2009, 07:44 PM) I need to keep it because it alters the hi-z input from my amps effect loop so it works well with my tc g-major and it does that even when its bypassed. Hmmm, interesting... I also have a TC-major, but Im not using it cause when You put in between the guitar & amp, it simply steals the tone even in by-pass mode..... maybe it is an resistance issue, but TC-engineers could'nt have been THAT stupid.... What do You think??? //Staffay -------------------- Guitars: Ibanez AM-200, Ibanez GB-10, Fender Stratocaster Classic Player, Warmouth Custom Built, Suhr Classic Strat, Gibson Les Paul Standard 2003, Ibanez steel-string Amps: Fender Hot Rod Deluxe, Marshall JMP 2103, AER 60 Effects: BOSS DD-20, Danelectro Trans. Overdrive, TC-Electronics G-Major, Dunlop Wah-wah, Original SansAmp, BOSS DD-2 Music by Staffy can be found at: Staffay at MySpace |
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Dec 29 2009, 07:43 AM
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QUOTE (VictorUK @ Dec 28 2009, 03:51 PM) Well it has to have a balanced (i think) input and the effects loops of peavey 5150's are hi-z, i do believe the tc g-force hasnt got this issue due to it having hi-z inputs. i have been told to put the maximiser infront by people on the TC forums who know ALOT about this stuff. look at the rear of the g-force http://www.tcelectronic.com/media/GForce_Rear.jpg WoW... Just when I thought I knew something... I will have to do some digging on all these pedlas and Hi-z inputs  I have a lot to learn ! -------------------- When I look down at my hands... I see "FINGERS of DOOM"
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Dec 29 2009, 10:34 AM
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QUOTE (VictorUK @ Dec 29 2009, 02:51 AM) Well it has to have a balanced (i think) input and the effects loops of peavey 5150's are hi-z, i do believe the tc g-force hasnt got this issue due to it having hi-z inputs. i have been told to put the maximiser infront by people on the TC forums who know ALOT about this stuff. look at the rear of the g-force http://www.tcelectronic.com/media/GForce_Rear.jpg Hmmm, they may be right bout this in Your case, but i still doesn't understand why they didn't put both balanced and hi-Z outputs on the device.... Since most guitars players tends to use effects before the pre-amp or the effects loop in most amps is Hi-Z, this seems like a construction error from my point of view. (even that TC otherwise make GREAT processors/devices) It also seems strange to me that You shall use it in front of the TC if the loop in 5150 is Hi-Z??? It would have made more sense to use it after, since the balanced outputs from the TC are low-Z and the effects return on the 5150 is Hi-Z (if I got You ríght here, I never owned a 5150...) Anyway, using a maximizer to convert from lo-Z to Hi-Z sounds like overkill (and expensive), there must be an easier way to do it... Maybe Tony knows how, or Zakk??? //Staffay QUOTE (Hammerhead @ Dec 29 2009, 07:43 AM) WoW... Just when I thought I knew something... I will have to do some digging on all these pedlas and Hi-z inputs I have a lot to learn !Nah, its not so hard.... Basically, all guitars & basses have microphones with a hi-Z output that matches a hi-Z input on the amp. Line level signals (ot a normal microphone signal) are lo-Z. That means that You could not plug Your guitar straight into a recording console for instance (or a soundcard without hi-Z inputs, thats really why most people think computer amp simulators suck...) So before the pre-amp in a guitar amp the signal will be Hi-Z, and is preffered to be that all the way in terms of pedals etc. But in a studio environment the balanced lo-Z signals are preferred, so therefore some manufactorers adopted this to give the devices more options.... Something that is interesting here is also the fact that long guitar cables actually increases resistance and therefor changes the impedance of the guitar signal = it will drop towards lo-Z = it will sound wourse..... In order to fix this issue some manufactorers of guitar cables now sells "special" cables for 5 times as much as the regular one's claiming that it really matters.... (in fact it does, but not THAT much imo.) //Staffay -------------------- Guitars: Ibanez AM-200, Ibanez GB-10, Fender Stratocaster Classic Player, Warmouth Custom Built, Suhr Classic Strat, Gibson Les Paul Standard 2003, Ibanez steel-string Amps: Fender Hot Rod Deluxe, Marshall JMP 2103, AER 60 Effects: BOSS DD-20, Danelectro Trans. Overdrive, TC-Electronics G-Major, Dunlop Wah-wah, Original SansAmp, BOSS DD-2 Music by Staffy can be found at: Staffay at MySpace |
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