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Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Nov 19 2010, 01:46 PM
Since I am a HUGE fan of the new breed combining progressive and alternative metal, I am curious to know what do you guys think of such bands like Tesseract, Periphery, Dead Letter Circus, Karnivool, The Butterfly Effect or metalcore acts such as Killswitch Engage, All That Remains, In this Moment (they have the best and hottest looking female vocalist I've seen so far 
)
Posted by: ZakkWylde Nov 19 2010, 01:58 PM
I don't really dig those more progressive bands but I am a big fan of the Metalcore Genre (As I Lay Dying, Killswitch) and I like the so called New Wave Of American Heavy Metal aswell (Trivium, Lamb Of God, Machine Head).
In fact I combine these two styles and play them with my own band^^
I absolutely HATE the Deathcore scene that is popular right now: No groove and breakdowns after breakdowns -.-
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Nov 19 2010, 02:01 PM
QUOTE (ZakkWylde @ Nov 19 2010, 12:58 PM) 
I don't really dig those more progressive bands but I am a big fan of the Metalcore Genre (As I Lay Dying, Killswitch) and I like the so called New Wave Of American Heavy Metal aswell (Trivium, Lamb Of God, Machine Head).
In fact I combine these two styles and play them with my own band^^
In fact I combine these two styles and play them with my own band^^
My bands are a combo between these two genres
one is rawer and heavier and the other is a little less heavy but it features complex orchestrations. Where can I listen to your band and how is it called? 
I don;t like deathcore either )
Posted by: Daniel Realpe Nov 19 2010, 02:08 PM
I'm not into them too much, I like progressive stuff like Opeth
Posted by: ZakkWylde Nov 19 2010, 02:11 PM
http://www.myspace.com/officialpoi
We don't have any of our good songs recorded so far as we are saving up for a professional Studio 5 Song EP next year...
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Nov 19 2010, 02:15 PM
I'll listen to it when I get home (right now I have no sound available 
) if you like killswitch that's awesome I've seen them live last year in Germany and I was blown away
Posted by: Ben Higgins Nov 19 2010, 02:43 PM
QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Nov 19 2010, 12:46 PM)
Since I am a HUGE fan of the new breed combining progressive and alternative metal, I am curious to know what do you guys think of such bands like Tesseract, Periphery, Dead Letter Circus, Karnivool, The Butterfly Effect or metalcore acts such as Killswitch Engage, All That Remains, In this Moment (they have the best and hottest looking female vocalist I've seen so far )
)Interesting question Cosmin.. and great to have you here at GMC and see you in the forums !
Most of those bands I don't know but in reference to modern metal.. it doesn't really do it for me. I think it's all a bit too well produced, with triggered/or sampled drums and a bit, I don't know... machine like. I miss the passion and honesty of the classic metal bands, and the sound of the albums.. where each record had it's own audio personality. It was all about wearing your heart on your sleeve when metal was younger... but now it's become what it rebelled against.. fashion. All the records now could have come from the same factory. A bit like McDonalds. But that's not to say that there isn't real talent because there is.. it's just not as evident because there's a big shiny veneer on metal albums that smells of money and status these days.
However, I'm not saying I'm right.. it's just an opinion and I totally respect what other bands do. Maybe I'm just a boring retro guy !
QUOTE (Daniel Realpe @ Nov 19 2010, 01:08 PM)
I'm not into them too much, I like progressive stuff like Opeth
Me too !
What did you think of Watershed though ? I prefer Ghost Reveries.
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Nov 19 2010, 02:57 PM
QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Nov 19 2010, 01:43 PM)
Interesting question Cosmin.. and great to have you here at GMC and see you in the forums !
Most of those bands I don't know but in reference to modern metal.. it doesn't really do it for me. I think it's all a bit too well produced, with triggered/or sampled drums and a bit, I don't know... machine like. I miss the passion and honesty of the classic metal bands, and the sound of the albums.. where each record had it's own audio personality. It was all about wearing your heart on your sleeve when metal was younger... but now it's become what it rebelled against.. fashion. All the records now could have come from the same factory. A bit like McDonalds. But that's not to say that there isn't real talent because there is.. it's just not as evident because there's a big shiny veneer on metal albums that smells of money and status these days.
However, I'm not saying I'm right.. it's just an opinion and I totally respect what other bands do. Maybe I'm just a boring retro guy !
Me too ! What did you think of Watershed though ? I prefer Ghost Reveries.
Most of those bands I don't know but in reference to modern metal.. it doesn't really do it for me. I think it's all a bit too well produced, with triggered/or sampled drums and a bit, I don't know... machine like. I miss the passion and honesty of the classic metal bands, and the sound of the albums.. where each record had it's own audio personality. It was all about wearing your heart on your sleeve when metal was younger... but now it's become what it rebelled against.. fashion. All the records now could have come from the same factory. A bit like McDonalds. But that's not to say that there isn't real talent because there is.. it's just not as evident because there's a big shiny veneer on metal albums that smells of money and status these days.
However, I'm not saying I'm right.. it's just an opinion and I totally respect what other bands do. Maybe I'm just a boring retro guy !
Me too !
What did you think of Watershed though ? I prefer Ghost Reveries.Hey Ben!
You're not boring at all mate, you're a termenous axeman and you are right about the "all image and no heartfelt music" there are a lot of bands out there who sound WAY too produced
Hmmmm, I think you would have a very pleasant surprise, if you'd give a go to the Australian scene - as they are exactly the opposite of what you stated about glitzy fashion and all that so I strongly recommend Karnivool, and the Butterfly Effect and also Rishloo (trust me, if you enjoy listening to Tool, you'll love these bands)
Opeth is a very very good band! I love them!
Posted by: tonymiro Nov 19 2010, 04:50 PM
QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Nov 19 2010, 01:43 PM)
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and the sound of the albums.. where each record had it's own audio personality. It was all about wearing your heart on your sleeve when metal was younger... but now it's become what it rebelled against.. fashion. All the records now could have come from the same factory. A bit like McDonalds.
...
and the sound of the albums.. where each record had it's own audio personality. It was all about wearing your heart on your sleeve when metal was younger... but now it's become what it rebelled against.. fashion. All the records now could have come from the same factory. A bit like McDonalds.
...
Rather true of a lot of music at the moment Ben.
It's perhaps because there are too many producers, mix engineers and mastering studios who follow a trend. Everyone wants their CD to sound like 'X', even when 'X' is not even close to what they do.
A slight digression - if you're in the UK look at X Factor - all the vocalists and groups are the same sound wise. We've just turned down the 'opportunity' to master one of that ilk as they just want another carbon copy, sound alike CD. I'm sure that there must be a setting in *name your fav 'mastering' plug-in* called 'X Factor Shiz' that they can do it on
.Posted by: Nielzsz Nov 19 2010, 06:31 PM
My opinion about the modern metal bands is that the songs most of the time have a anticlimax. They intro has often much power and then Boom, when the vocals start, its over.
Also the modern metal bands are way to often too commercial. They often have the same sound and as already said, its too much changed by the studio.
Whats your favorite Modern metal song Cosmin?
Maybe ill change my opioning a bit then
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Nov 19 2010, 07:47 PM
QUOTE (Nielzsz @ Nov 19 2010, 05:31 PM)
My opinion about the modern metal bands is that the songs most of the time have a anticlimax. They intro has often much power and then Boom, when the vocals start, its over.
Also the modern metal bands are way to often too commercial. They often have the same sound and as already said, its too much changed by the studio.
Whats your favorite Modern metal song Cosmin?
Maybe ill change my opioning a bit then
Also the modern metal bands are way to often too commercial. They often have the same sound and as already said, its too much changed by the studio.
Whats your favorite Modern metal song Cosmin?
Maybe ill change my opioning a bit then
Hey there Nielzsz : ) I'll make up a top 5 for today
below - let me know what you think (there are MANY more 
)1) Tesseract - Concealing fate (part 2) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF_YIiRoRFM
2) Karnivool - Themata - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t59vYoP6LkY
3) Deftones - Diamond eyes - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qksTlo_1Tpw
4) Sevendust - Enemy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlqY89pkqn4
5) Periphery - Flight of Icarus - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qCNAtj7PHQ
this is the kind of stuff that I enjoy
Posted by: Mr T Nov 19 2010, 07:57 PM
I really dig Karnivool and Rishloo, some of the others you mention I only know by name.
Used to listen to bands like Killswitch Engage, but at some point they kinda lost their appeal to me.
Posted by: Ben Higgins Nov 19 2010, 09:13 PM
QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Nov 19 2010, 01:57 PM)
Hey Ben!
You're not boring at all mate, you're a termenous axeman and you are right about the "all image and no heartfelt music" there are a lot of bands out there who sound WAY too produced
Hmmmm, I think you would have a very pleasant surprise, if you'd give a go to the Australian scene - as they are exactly the opposite of what you stated about glitzy fashion and all that so I strongly recommend Karnivool, and the Butterfly Effect and also Rishloo (trust me, if you enjoy listening to Tool, you'll love these bands)
Opeth is a very very good band! I love them!
You're not boring at all mate, you're a termenous axeman and you are right about the "all image and no heartfelt music" there are a lot of bands out there who sound WAY too produced
Hmmmm, I think you would have a very pleasant surprise, if you'd give a go to the Australian scene - as they are exactly the opposite of what you stated about glitzy fashion and all that so I strongly recommend Karnivool, and the Butterfly Effect and also Rishloo (trust me, if you enjoy listening to Tool, you'll love these bands)
Opeth is a very very good band! I love them!
Thank you for your kinds words Cosmin.. how much do I owe you ?? The cheque will be in the post.....
Ok, I'll check them out... I admit that I'm not very up to date with modern metal bands so there will be loads of music I've missed
QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Nov 19 2010, 06:47 PM)
Hey there Nielzsz : ) I'll make up a top 5 for today below - let me know what you think (there are MANY more )
1) Tesseract - Concealing fate (part 2) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF_YIiRoRFM
2) Karnivool - Themata - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t59vYoP6LkY
3) Deftones - Diamond eyes - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qksTlo_1Tpw
4) Sevendust - Enemy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlqY89pkqn4
5) Periphery - Flight of Icarus - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qCNAtj7PHQ
this is the kind of stuff that I enjoy
below - let me know what you think (there are MANY more )1) Tesseract - Concealing fate (part 2) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF_YIiRoRFM
2) Karnivool - Themata - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t59vYoP6LkY
3) Deftones - Diamond eyes - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qksTlo_1Tpw
4) Sevendust - Enemy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlqY89pkqn4
5) Periphery - Flight of Icarus - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qCNAtj7PHQ
this is the kind of stuff that I enjoy
I enjoyed Karnivool the best from those links but they all had really enjoyable elements, which I wasn't expecting.. Tesseract have some damn cool hair.. all the others need to grow theirs !!!
But some clever musicianship and interesting song writing for sure
QUOTE (tonymiro @ Nov 19 2010, 03:50 PM)
Rather true of a lot of music at the moment Ben.
It's perhaps because there are too many producers, mix engineers and mastering studios who follow a trend. Everyone wants their CD to sound like 'X', even when 'X' is not even close to what they do.
A slight digression - if you're in the UK look at X Factor - all the vocalists and groups are the same sound wise. We've just turned down the 'opportunity' to master one of that ilk as they just want another carbon copy, sound alike CD. I'm sure that there must be a setting in *name your fav 'mastering' plug-in* called 'X Factor Shiz' that they can do it on .
It's perhaps because there are too many producers, mix engineers and mastering studios who follow a trend. Everyone wants their CD to sound like 'X', even when 'X' is not even close to what they do.
A slight digression - if you're in the UK look at X Factor - all the vocalists and groups are the same sound wise. We've just turned down the 'opportunity' to master one of that ilk as they just want another carbon copy, sound alike CD. I'm sure that there must be a setting in *name your fav 'mastering' plug-in* called 'X Factor Shiz' that they can do it on
.Hehe, you're dead right there with the X Factor idea. I like the fact you turn people down from the 'manufactured' world as well... extra bonus points for you !!
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Nov 19 2010, 09:29 PM
QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Nov 19 2010, 08:13 PM)
Thank you for your kinds words Cosmin.. how much do I owe you ?? The cheque will be in the post.....
Ok, I'll check them out... I admit that I'm not very up to date with modern metal bands so there will be loads of music I've missed
I enjoyed Karnivool the best from those links but they all had really enjoyable elements, which I wasn't expecting.. Tesseract have some damn cool hair.. all the others need to grow theirs !!!
But some clever musicianship and interesting song writing for sure
Hehe, you're dead right there with the X Factor idea. I like the fact you turn people down from the 'manufactured' world as well... extra bonus points for you !!
Ok, I'll check them out... I admit that I'm not very up to date with modern metal bands so there will be loads of music I've missed
I enjoyed Karnivool the best from those links but they all had really enjoyable elements, which I wasn't expecting.. Tesseract have some damn cool hair.. all the others need to grow theirs !!!
But some clever musicianship and interesting song writing for sure
Hehe, you're dead right there with the X Factor idea. I like the fact you turn people down from the 'manufactured' world as well... extra bonus points for you !!
Ben
all you owe me is making sure you pull my sleeve whenever my licks are pointless and uncolourful : D If everyone in the music scene in Romania would be as nice as you guys, the world would surely be a better place
Well, if you need modern rock/ metal/ alterno stuff and all this kind - ask whenever, I have loads of stuff
Posted by: Ben Higgins Nov 19 2010, 09:40 PM
QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Nov 19 2010, 08:29 PM)
Ben all you owe me is making sure you pull my sleeve whenever my licks are pointless and uncolourful : D
If everyone in the music scene in Romania would be as nice as you guys, the world would surely be a better place
Well, if you need modern rock/ metal/ alterno stuff and all this kind - ask whenever, I have loads of stuff
all you owe me is making sure you pull my sleeve whenever my licks are pointless and uncolourful : D If everyone in the music scene in Romania would be as nice as you guys, the world would surely be a better place
Well, if you need modern rock/ metal/ alterno stuff and all this kind - ask whenever, I have loads of stuff
Well, I don't imagine that will happen anyway, Cosmin !!
I hear you on that... genuine musicians with no ego are hard to come across in the music scene.. that's what makes GMC so great, by having all these amazing people here in one place. Without sounding sycophantic, I thought the same thing when I saw your video.. you truly understand and appreciate the heart behind music
Have you ever heard of a book called Zen Guitar, by a guy called Philip Toshio Sudo ? I think you'd really enjoy it, and get a lot from it as it complements your philosophies !
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Nov 19 2010, 10:03 PM
QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Nov 19 2010, 08:40 PM)
Well, I don't imagine that will happen anyway, Cosmin !!
I hear you on that... genuine musicians with no ego are hard to come across in the music scene.. that's what makes GMC so great, by having all these amazing people here in one place. Without sounding sycophantic, I thought the same thing when I saw your video.. you truly understand and appreciate the heart behind music
Have you ever heard of a book called Zen Guitar, by a guy called Philip Toshio Sudo ? I think you'd really enjoy it, and get a lot from it as it complements your philosophies !
I hear you on that... genuine musicians with no ego are hard to come across in the music scene.. that's what makes GMC so great, by having all these amazing people here in one place. Without sounding sycophantic, I thought the same thing when I saw your video.. you truly understand and appreciate the heart behind music
Have you ever heard of a book called Zen Guitar, by a guy called Philip Toshio Sudo ? I think you'd really enjoy it, and get a lot from it as it complements your philosophies !
Thanx man! Your words are too kind
where can i find it>? It sounds VERY interesting I have one for you - it's called Effortless mastery (i think, I have the translated romanian version) and it's written by a guy named kenny Werner - a famous jazz piano player - I loved it because it shows you how to discover who you realy are as a musician IN a practical approach! It is really nice as it's spiced with this guys tremendous life experience
Posted by: Ben Higgins Nov 19 2010, 10:08 PM
QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Nov 19 2010, 09:03 PM)
Thanx man! Your words are too kind where can i find it>? It sounds VERY interesting I have one for you - it's called Effortless mastery (i think, I have the translated romanian version) and it's written by a guy named kenny Werner - a famous jazz piano player - I loved it because it shows you how to discover who you realy are as a musician IN a practical approach! It is really nice as it's spiced with this guys tremendous life experience
where can i find it>? It sounds VERY interesting I have one for you - it's called Effortless mastery (i think, I have the translated romanian version) and it's written by a guy named kenny Werner - a famous jazz piano player - I loved it because it shows you how to discover who you realy are as a musician IN a practical approach! It is really nice as it's spiced with this guys tremendous life experience You can get it here from Amazon, I don't know if there's any translated versions though.. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Guitar-fireside-book-Philip-Toshio/dp/068483877X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1290200178&sr=8-1 but it's an incredibly inspiring book !
I'll look for that book, it sounds great !! Thank you
Posted by: superize Nov 19 2010, 10:48 PM
I really like Metalcore bands like Trivium, Bullet for my vallentine and Avenged Sevenfold
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Nov 19 2010, 10:53 PM
QUOTE (superize @ Nov 19 2010, 09:48 PM)
I really like Metalcore bands like Trivium, Bullet for my vallentine and Avenged Sevenfold
hey mate! Trivium rocks - seen them last year, at the same fest in Germany with Killswitch
Posted by: The Uncreator Nov 19 2010, 11:53 PM
I like quite a few newer/ modern bands. Revocation, Allegaeon, The Sword, Trivium, In This Moment, The Ocean, Dawn Of Ashes, Warbringer, Evile. There are many, many good ones, just they hard to find in a giant swathing ocean of mediocrity and repetition. Production is also a big issue, The same general tone is used on too many records especially in the deathcore scene, which is a genre that I honestly think only really lasted a year or two and that was five years ago. Recently, a band called Oceano came out, barely a year or so ago, and they were hailed as the heaviest band in the scene ever. Less than a few months after there were stickers on CD covers at stores that read "the heaviest band since Oceano", and I am just like WTF, they JUST released an album, you cannot refer to them in that way, it just doesn't make sense to me.
However, some bands still realize that a production with a lower volume and better dynamics and character is the better way to go (The Sword is a perfect example). Are so many musicians so damaged in the head that they don't realize they can just turn the volume up?
Posted by: Shime Nov 20 2010, 12:22 AM
QUOTE (The Uncreator @ Nov 19 2010, 11:53 PM)
I like quite a few newer/ modern bands. Revocation, Allegaeon, The Sword, Trivium, In This Moment, The Ocean, Dawn Of Ashes, Warbringer, Evile. There are many, many good ones, just they hard to find in a giant swathing ocean of mediocrity and repetition. Production is also a big issue, The same general tone is used on too many records especially in the deathcore scene, which is a genre that I honestly think only really lasted a year or two and that was five years ago. Recently, a band called Oceano came out, barely a year or so ago, and they were hailed as the heaviest band in the scene ever. Less than a few months after there were stickers on CD covers at stores that read "the heaviest band since Oceano", and I am just like WTF, they JUST released an album, you cannot refer to them in that way, it just doesn't make sense to me.
However, some bands still realize that a production with a lower volume and better dynamics and character is the better way to go (The Sword is a perfect example). Are so many musicians so damaged in the head that they don't realize they can just turn the volume up?
However, some bands still realize that a production with a lower volume and better dynamics and character is the better way to go (The Sword is a perfect example). Are so many musicians so damaged in the head that they don't realize they can just turn the volume up?
Ben, others,
I am old (37), heard a lot of metal since Iron Maiden, Metal Church and Metallica, a lot of repetition, but I still think there's a lot of exciting and promising talent in the present metal scene - perhaps even more than ever before. Don't know about bands like Periphery as I did not yet listen to them, but bands like Trivium and Revocation bring back that spark, the shiver... Killswitch has some very good songs, they're a kick ass live band (hell, even Megadeth live is better now than ever before!). As for progressive/tech death, take the time to listen to bands like the Faceless. They're downright interesting - uncompromising metal made into real modern music.
Shime
Posted by: Mudbone Nov 20 2010, 03:29 AM
Modern metal music is so diverse its impossible to have one opinion on the entire genre. All I can say is this: for every trend setting band in a specific sub-genre (i.e. power metal, metalcore, etc...) there are a thousand followers, and all of those followers sound the same.
Posted by: Todd Simpson Nov 20 2010, 05:17 AM
QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Nov 19 2010, 01:47 PM)
Hey there Nielzsz : ) I'll make up a top 5 for today below - let me know what you think (there are MANY more :....................
this is the kind of stuff that I enjoy
below - let me know what you think (there are MANY more :....................this is the kind of stuff that I enjoy
Todd here
Welcome to GMC BTW! Being from Atlanta, I'm partial to Sevendust. Gotta give those guys credit for slugging it out year after year on the festival circuit while being largely ignored by Atlanta radio. Recently, many of the "Pop" radio stations in down went bust! And some rock stations took over and they are actually playing Sevendust on the freaking radio! How cool is that? I do enjoy some of the bands in the "New Wave of American Heavy Metal", I was in one of them for a bit. A band called GNOSTIC which was formed from bits of my old band Caustic Thought and the drummer from Atheist. Gnostic is listed in this massive reference book called "The New Wave of American Heavy Metal", we didn't know what we were until we looked ourselves up
Here's a link to it on amazonhttp://www.amazon.com/New-Wave-American-Heavy-Metal/dp/0958268401/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1290224729&sr=8-1
and a pic
Todd
Posted by: Mudbone Nov 20 2010, 05:30 AM
QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Nov 19 2010, 11:17 PM)
Todd here Welcome to GMC BTW! Being from Atlanta, I'm partial to Sevendust. Gotta give those guys credit for slugging it out year after year on the festival circuit while being largely ignored by Atlanta radio. Recently, many of the "Pop" radio stations in down went bust! And some rock stations took over and they are actually playing Sevendust on the freaking radio! How cool is that?
I do enjoy some of the bands in the "New Wave of American Heavy Metal", I was in one of them for a bit. A band called GNOSTIC which was formed from bits of my old band Caustic Thought and the drummer from Atheist. Gnostic is listed in this massive reference book called "The New Wave of American Heavy Metal", we didn't know what we were until we looked ourselves up Here's a link to it on amazon
http://www.amazon.com/New-Wave-American-Heavy-Metal/dp/0958268401/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1290224729&sr=8-1
and a pic
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Todd
Welcome to GMC BTW! Being from Atlanta, I'm partial to Sevendust. Gotta give those guys credit for slugging it out year after year on the festival circuit while being largely ignored by Atlanta radio. Recently, many of the "Pop" radio stations in down went bust! And some rock stations took over and they are actually playing Sevendust on the freaking radio! How cool is that? I do enjoy some of the bands in the "New Wave of American Heavy Metal", I was in one of them for a bit. A band called GNOSTIC which was formed from bits of my old band Caustic Thought and the drummer from Atheist. Gnostic is listed in this massive reference book called "The New Wave of American Heavy Metal", we didn't know what we were until we looked ourselves up
Here's a link to it on amazonhttp://www.amazon.com/New-Wave-American-Heavy-Metal/dp/0958268401/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1290224729&sr=8-1
and a pic
[attachment=22319:nwoah_700px.jpg]
Todd
When I used to live back home in Boston, the local radio station, WAAF, used to play Sevendust ALL THE TIME. The DJ's there were big fans of the band. WAAF is the same radio station that put Godsmack on the map back around '98 I believe. Godsmack at the time only toured the New England area, and never really ventured outside that region. But two DJ's, Rocko and Birdsy (who were former strip club DJ's
), played their song "Stay Away" over and over again... and the rest is history. I'm surprised Sevendust never made it as big as Godsmack.Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Nov 20 2010, 11:36 AM
QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Nov 20 2010, 04:17 AM)
Todd here Welcome to GMC BTW! Being from Atlanta, I'm partial to Sevendust. Gotta give those guys credit for slugging it out year after year on the festival circuit while being largely ignored by Atlanta radio. Recently, many of the "Pop" radio stations in down went bust! And some rock stations took over and they are actually playing Sevendust on the freaking radio! How cool is that?
I do enjoy some of the bands in the "New Wave of American Heavy Metal", I was in one of them for a bit. A band called GNOSTIC which was formed from bits of my old band Caustic Thought and the drummer from Atheist. Gnostic is listed in this massive reference book called "The New Wave of American Heavy Metal", we didn't know what we were until we looked ourselves up Here's a link to it on amazon
http://www.amazon.com/New-Wave-American-Heavy-Metal/dp/0958268401/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1290224729&sr=8-1
and a pic
Todd
Welcome to GMC BTW! Being from Atlanta, I'm partial to Sevendust. Gotta give those guys credit for slugging it out year after year on the festival circuit while being largely ignored by Atlanta radio. Recently, many of the "Pop" radio stations in down went bust! And some rock stations took over and they are actually playing Sevendust on the freaking radio! How cool is that? I do enjoy some of the bands in the "New Wave of American Heavy Metal", I was in one of them for a bit. A band called GNOSTIC which was formed from bits of my old band Caustic Thought and the drummer from Atheist. Gnostic is listed in this massive reference book called "The New Wave of American Heavy Metal", we didn't know what we were until we looked ourselves up
Here's a link to it on amazonhttp://www.amazon.com/New-Wave-American-Heavy-Metal/dp/0958268401/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1290224729&sr=8-1
and a pic
Todd
Hey mate, well, there was a time when I was simply obsessed by Sevendust
I still keep listening to them and I am amazed of what tasteful equilibrium these guys have managed to create: the perfect combination - smart, groovie, soulful, aggressive and anthemic - in my opinion they are VERY underrated cheers Tod!
Posted by: tonymiro Nov 20 2010, 03:22 PM
QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Nov 19 2010, 08:13 PM)
...
Hehe, you're dead right there with the X Factor idea. I like the fact you turn people down from the 'manufactured' world as well... extra bonus points for you !!
Hehe, you're dead right there with the X Factor idea. I like the fact you turn people down from the 'manufactured' world as well... extra bonus points for you !!
My cats disagree though. They like the manufactured sound and keep telling me that I need to earn more money so that they can eat fish.
QUOTE (The Uncreator @ Nov 19 2010, 10:53 PM)
... Production is also a big issue
...
...
Indeed.
Often it's not the band btw but the record company's producer who really dictates what the CD will sound like. A lot of producers don't want to take a risk and so look at what's already successful and expect the mix engineer and mastering engineer to replicate it. It's a sort of 'no one ever got sacked for buying an IBM' approach.
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don't realize they can just turn the volume up?
Absolutely.
Posted by: Ben Higgins Nov 20 2010, 04:29 PM
I think we should call you Tony 'The Truth' Miro... the no bullshit Mastering Engineer !!
Posted by: Yozshura Nov 20 2010, 05:45 PM
QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Nov 19 2010, 07:47 PM)
Hey there Nielzsz : ) I'll make up a top 5 for today below - let me know what you think (there are MANY more )
1) Tesseract - Concealing fate (part 2) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF_YIiRoRFM
2) Karnivool - Themata - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t59vYoP6LkY
3) Deftones - Diamond eyes - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qksTlo_1Tpw
4) Sevendust - Enemy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlqY89pkqn4
5) Periphery - Flight of Icarus - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qCNAtj7PHQ
this is the kind of stuff that I enjoy
below - let me know what you think (there are MANY more )1) Tesseract - Concealing fate (part 2) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF_YIiRoRFM
2) Karnivool - Themata - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t59vYoP6LkY
3) Deftones - Diamond eyes - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qksTlo_1Tpw
4) Sevendust - Enemy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlqY89pkqn4
5) Periphery - Flight of Icarus - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qCNAtj7PHQ
this is the kind of stuff that I enjoy
Wow!
Just heard about Sevendust, but never really checked 'em out, but I see I have too, really nice!
Posted by: Nielzsz Nov 20 2010, 05:50 PM
QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Nov 19 2010, 07:47 PM)
Hey there Nielzsz : ) I'll make up a top 5 for today below - let me know what you think (there are MANY more )
1) Tesseract - Concealing fate (part 2) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF_YIiRoRFM
2) Karnivool - Themata - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t59vYoP6LkY
3) Deftones - Diamond eyes - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qksTlo_1Tpw
4) Sevendust - Enemy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlqY89pkqn4
5) Periphery - Flight of Icarus - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qCNAtj7PHQ
this is the kind of stuff that I enjoy
below - let me know what you think (there are MANY more )1) Tesseract - Concealing fate (part 2) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF_YIiRoRFM
2) Karnivool - Themata - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t59vYoP6LkY
3) Deftones - Diamond eyes - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qksTlo_1Tpw
4) Sevendust - Enemy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlqY89pkqn4
5) Periphery - Flight of Icarus - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qCNAtj7PHQ
this is the kind of stuff that I enjoy
Soryy for my late reaction! Are these bands all in the metal core genre? ( i thought not
) but i do like some of these songs, althought some are missing some 'spice' in it I will start whit number 5
5. Really liked the timing of these guys! and there headbang factor
4. a little to sweet for me, i will check out their other songs.
3.Better then 4, but i really missed some lead over the rythem guitar. But liked his voice though.
2.Really awesome intro! The power stays in this song the whole time. I really liked the violins in the middle, made it really beautifull! Steve vai also used some brilliant violins in his song 'and now we run'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ7vyFnLvjw&feature=related
1.On the first sight, the song sounds really simple and boring. But when i really listened, i could here how much emotion was in this song. I think its really depents on the moment, wether i like this song or not, but its defenetly no commercial crap!
Well, if you have any more great songs for me, you know were to find me
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Nov 20 2010, 06:17 PM
QUOTE (Nielzsz @ Nov 20 2010, 04:50 PM)
Soryy for my late reaction! Are these bands all in the metal core genre? ( i thought not ) but i do like some of these songs, althought some are missing some 'spice' in it
I will start whit number 5
5. Really liked the timing of these guys! and there headbang factor
4. a little to sweet for me, i will check out their other songs.
3.Better then 4, but i really missed some lead over the rythem guitar. But liked his voice though.
2.Really awesome intro! The power stays in this song the whole time. I really liked the violins in the middle, made it really beautifull! Steve vai also used some brilliant violins in his song 'and now we run'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ7vyFnLvjw&feature=related
1.On the first sight, the song sounds really simple and boring. But when i really listened, i could here how much emotion was in this song. I think its really depents on the moment, wether i like this song or not, but its defenetly no commercial crap!
Well, if you have any more great songs for me, you know were to find me
) but i do like some of these songs, althought some are missing some 'spice' in it I will start whit number 5
5. Really liked the timing of these guys! and there headbang factor
4. a little to sweet for me, i will check out their other songs.
3.Better then 4, but i really missed some lead over the rythem guitar. But liked his voice though.
2.Really awesome intro! The power stays in this song the whole time. I really liked the violins in the middle, made it really beautifull! Steve vai also used some brilliant violins in his song 'and now we run'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ7vyFnLvjw&feature=related
1.On the first sight, the song sounds really simple and boring. But when i really listened, i could here how much emotion was in this song. I think its really depents on the moment, wether i like this song or not, but its defenetly no commercial crap!
Well, if you have any more great songs for me, you know were to find me
I'm glad you appreciate the music
I'll post topics on modern metal a lot )) and I'm also preparing lessons in this field, in the style of the guys with the headbanging factor stay tuned QUOTE (Yozshura @ Nov 20 2010, 04:45 PM)
Wow! Just heard about Sevendust, but never really checked 'em out, but I see I have too, really nice!
Just heard about Sevendust, but never really checked 'em out, but I see I have too, really nice!Way too underrated for their awesomeness - their guitarist Clint, also played in a super band called Dark New Day. Check out sevendust's drummer...HE IS AN ANIMAL
)) he has THAT kind of energy which every rock drummer should have!!! WORD
Posted by: Yozshura Nov 20 2010, 09:40 PM
I must say they are way too underrated yes! Their drummer is just awesome to watch while he is playing! He got an awesome playstyle that is pretty rare!
Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Nov 20 2010, 10:54 PM
AMAZING Topic! I really like this topic because I'm discovering some awesome bands that I didn't know before. Karnivool's video blew my mind! I have to search more music from them. Keep on sharing great music Cosmin!
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Nov 21 2010, 12:27 AM
QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Nov 20 2010, 09:54 PM)
AMAZING Topic! I really like this topic because I'm discovering some awesome bands that I didn't know before. Karnivool's video blew my mind! I have to search more music from them. Keep on sharing great music Cosmin!
Thank you! I sure will
Posted by: tonymiro Nov 21 2010, 12:36 PM
QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Nov 20 2010, 03:29 PM)
I think we should call you Tony 'The Truth' Miro... the no bullshit Mastering Engineer !!
I actually try to be supportive and diplomatic when it's a client.
But for others...
.
Posted by: The Uncreator Nov 21 2010, 03:38 PM
http://theinterbeing.bandcamp.com/
Debut album coming out soon, this is why I still love modern music, and I love the production as well, guitars, snare, vocals everything fit very well into the mix.
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Nov 21 2010, 05:09 PM
QUOTE (The Uncreator @ Nov 21 2010, 02:38 PM)
http://theinterbeing.bandcamp.com/
Debut album coming out soon, this is why I still love modern music, and I love the production as well, guitars, snare, vocals everything fit very well into the mix.
Debut album coming out soon, this is why I still love modern music, and I love the production as well, guitars, snare, vocals everything fit very well into the mix.
They sound great! I feel a slight need for more singing, but overall, they rock
Posted by: Quibanez Nov 21 2010, 10:28 PM
I totally agree with Ben Higgins...
Also in Belgium at my age (16) metalcore, beatdown, deathcore... is becoming very popular, and sometimes, I like this music!
But there are so many new bands, all doing the same thing 
as this Ultimate-Guitar user said;
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Nov 22 2010, 10:27 AM
QUOTE (Quibanez @ Nov 21 2010, 09:28 PM)
I totally agree with Ben Higgins...
Also in Belgium at my age (16) metalcore, beatdown, deathcore... is becoming very popular, and sometimes, I like this music!
But there are so many new bands, all doing the same thing as this Ultimate-Guitar user said;
Also in Belgium at my age (16) metalcore, beatdown, deathcore... is becoming very popular, and sometimes, I like this music!
But there are so many new bands, all doing the same thing
as this Ultimate-Guitar user said;: ) every beautiful garden has its dry leaves ; )
pick what's really great and ignore the rest
cheers!
Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Nov 22 2010, 06:58 PM
I'm not into those bands at all I must say, but I've checked some of the bands that my metalhead friends recommended, and they do sound interesting. Bands like Gojira, Lamb of God, and Meshuggah are sounding interesting. Not sure where they belong in those genres, I guess they are all progressive one way or another. Here are some of my favorites, all based on what others played me, and what I've found later on YT because of these recommendations:
New modern metal bands sound very much alike. Everything is over compressed and sampled, so the link between the sound on the instrument/vocalist and the sound that comes out of the speaker (wetter it is live or studio recording) is becoming weaker and weaker. I've heard Behemoth live, and their drummer is using triggered samples that sound perfect, no mistakes at all. This does open up lots of possibilities for new kinds of sounds and effects, but often bands lack to use it, and just follow the trends.
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Nov 22 2010, 11:52 PM
QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Nov 22 2010, 05:58 PM)
I'm not into those bands at all I must say, but I've checked some of the bands that my metalhead friends recommended, and they do sound interesting. Bands like Gojira, Lamb of God, and Meshuggah are sounding interesting. Not sure where they belong in those genres, I guess they are all progressive one way or another. Here are some of my favorites, all based on what others played me, and what I've found later on YT because of these recommendations:
New modern metal bands sound very much alike. Everything is over compressed and sampled, so the link between the sound on the instrument/vocalist and the sound that comes out of the speaker (wetter it is live or studio recording) is becoming weaker and weaker. I've heard Behemoth live, and their drummer is using triggered samples that sound perfect, no mistakes at all. This does open up lots of possibilities for new kinds of sounds and effects, but often bands lack to use it, and just follow the trends.
New modern metal bands sound very much alike. Everything is over compressed and sampled, so the link between the sound on the instrument/vocalist and the sound that comes out of the speaker (wetter it is live or studio recording) is becoming weaker and weaker. I've heard Behemoth live, and their drummer is using triggered samples that sound perfect, no mistakes at all. This does open up lots of possibilities for new kinds of sounds and effects, but often bands lack to use it, and just follow the trends.
Hey there Ivan,
well, I must admit that Meshuggah is a hell of a band, although in my opinion even if they lack the melody, their rythmic concepts are very very interesting. Mr Fredrik Thordendal has got some insane chops if u ask me, and all the guys in the band do, but their level of conception as a band, is actually the interesting thing. Keep listening to this kind of stuff, you never know what you might find
cheers!
Posted by: Nielzsz Nov 23 2010, 09:58 AM
QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Nov 22 2010, 06:58 PM)
I'm not into those bands at all I must say, but I've checked some of the bands that my metalhead friends recommended, and they do sound interesting. Bands like Gojira, Lamb of God, and Meshuggah are sounding interesting. Not sure where they belong in those genres, I guess they are all progressive one way or another. Here are some of my favorites, all based on what others played me, and what I've found later on YT because of these recommendations:
New modern metal bands sound very much alike. Everything is over compressed and sampled, so the link between the sound on the instrument/vocalist and the sound that comes out of the speaker (wetter it is live or studio recording) is becoming weaker and weaker. I've heard Behemoth live, and their drummer is using triggered samples that sound perfect, no mistakes at all. This does open up lots of possibilities for new kinds of sounds and effects, but often bands lack to use it, and just follow the trends.
New modern metal bands sound very much alike. Everything is over compressed and sampled, so the link between the sound on the instrument/vocalist and the sound that comes out of the speaker (wetter it is live or studio recording) is becoming weaker and weaker. I've heard Behemoth live, and their drummer is using triggered samples that sound perfect, no mistakes at all. This does open up lots of possibilities for new kinds of sounds and effects, but often bands lack to use it, and just follow the trends.
Lamb of god is really one of my favorits! Im listening to them for a long time now. You have to check them play live once, they play really tight!
Posted by: ZakkWylde Nov 23 2010, 12:16 PM
Lamb Of God play like a machine live!
Posted by: Shime Nov 23 2010, 12:29 PM
QUOTE (ZakkWylde @ Nov 23 2010, 12:16 PM)
Lamb Of God play like a machine live!
Yeah they do, and so do others these days. None of these players are drunk or stoned anymore
, everyone seems to be really dedicated to their live performance. In the last year or so I had the opportunity to watch Lamb of God, Trivium, Annihilator, Killswitch Engage, Megadeth and some others. They all put on an extremely tight show. Killswitch had the most entertaining performance though, and technically Megadeth (!) was even better than the rest.
Posted by: Quibanez Nov 23 2010, 04:07 PM
So true, there are awesome 'Modern Metal Bands', but too many dry leaves... I think...
Posted by: Mr T Nov 23 2010, 04:51 PM
Love Gojira, especially the from mars to sirius album
Also like the band The Ocean, this is one of my favourite songs of theirs. (Love how heavy it is especially towards the end)
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Nov 23 2010, 05:20 PM
QUOTE (Quibanez @ Nov 23 2010, 03:07 PM)
So true, there are awesome 'Modern Metal Bands', but too many dry leaves... I think...
I think... indeed, but it's the same in each domain, be it music or anything else cheers!
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