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Luciferi
Apr 18 2010, 04:07 PM
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Hi there, as some of you know from my thread in the introduction section I recently came back to GMC. I'm currently practicing through my first lesson plan, which I will keep updating and progressing on as I progress myself. I plan to practice at least 2 hours a day, and at least until I find a new job, I'll try to get in as much as 6 hours per day.

I have inherited some money, which just so happens to be just enough to buy a Jackson Randy Rhoads RR1, which I've been drooling over for quite some time. But at my current level of guitar proficiency, such a guitar isn't yet suited for me. Thus, I plan on using it as a carrot on a stick for myself, and set a list of goals and requirements for myself before I allow myself to purchase that guitar.

So the question to you is, what would you consider the skill requirements for me to deserve such a guitar? I'd like to have a set in stone list of requirements for myself, so I can work towards that point.

My apologies if this is in the wrong section, I hope this is right!

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ZakkWylde
Apr 18 2010, 04:13 PM
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We can't set goals for you because only you know what you can and can not play...
Set yourself a gola (lesson, solo or song) and get the guitar when you have accomplished that goal!









Or just get the Jackson an practice on it^^

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Apr 18 2010, 04:52 PM
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Welcome Luciferi. You don't have to be a great player to get that guitar. If you already own a guitar, then it makes sense to become better to play a better guitar but if you don't own one, I think you should just buy it rather than buying some cheap guitar and then wanting to throw it away after sometime. smile.gif

Yes, as Zakk says, you have to set your own goal. First know where you are and what your weaknesses are. Then, gradually try improving those weaknesses one by one. Some examples might be Alternate Picking, Knowing scales, Sweeping, Tapping, other theories. There are tonnes you know. smile.gif

For example, my goal was to improve AP and speed picking which I have accomplished partially by now. I am working on sweeping as I speak. Set your own goals, its only you who can help yourself improve, not others. Others can be inspiration / motivation but you have to find out what you want first. smile.gif

Good Luck. We are always here to help if you need any assistance. smile.gif

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Apr 18 2010, 04:58 PM
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If you know without a doubt that you will get the guitar, then just go ahead and get it anyway while you have the money for it. I never liked using gear as rewards. Learning something new and getting better is reward enough. The joy of playing my guitar is my reward. Having nice gear is a collateral joy that comes with the hobby. A guitar like that will have good resale value too...so it's not like you are flushing money down the tubes. But you mentioned that you are jobless...so don't sacrafice everything for the guitar. You know your limits financially better than us.

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Luciferi
Apr 18 2010, 06:18 PM
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I'm already playing a Cort Katana guitar, which works just fine for now. So I don't really NEED this upgrade. Which is why I wouldn't mind waiting for a bit with purchasing it.

I don't feel I need nor deserve to play such an expensive guitar yet, and I like the prospect of using it as a carrot on a stick as a goal to work towards. Thus I only wanted some ideas from you to decide what those goals should be, with the guitar in mind. You don't need to know my current level to say what you think is a reasonable level of skill to 'deserve' this guitar. Surely someone here gets that flow of thought? smile.gif I have figured I'm comfortable around difficulty levels 4-5 on most exercises so far, if it helps.

The money is for the guitar only, nothing else, it's not a sacrifice in any way.

The RR1 is a kind of a flying V, but I'm used to playing with my guitar in classical acoustic position - guitar resting on left knee, which is placed slightly higher than the right, by resting on some object higher than the floor (which is how you'll have to use a Rhoads, just like a V). So that is no issue for me, besides, I prefer practicing either like that or standing, as standing practice is very useful.

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Apr 18 2010, 07:28 PM
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There isn't a guitar for any playing level. If you want to think it in this way, the best guitars (and the more expensives) are the ones that is more easily to play with.

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Apr 18 2010, 07:36 PM
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QUOTE (VictorUK @ Apr 18 2010, 06:45 PM) *
... i say if you can afford it, buy it.


+1

QUOTE (Santiago Diaz Garces @ Apr 18 2010, 08:28 PM) *
There isn't a guitar for any playing level. If you want to think it in this way, the best guitars (and the more expensive) are the ones that is more easily to play with.


+1

I would be a very old man (or even dead for some time) if I had to wait for my skills to develop into "deserving" my PRS! wink.gif
But to give you a hint - check out:
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guit...-solo-beginner/
Beginner Level 4 should be easy enough to learn
When you have mastered intermediate level as well, record a take with part 1 & 2 and if YOU are happy with the result and have the feeling that the Advanced part is somehow manageable in the near future - GO for it and buy your dream guitar.

Hope that helped in a way!
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Zsolt Galambos
Apr 20 2010, 11:12 AM
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If I were you I'd buy that guitar and practice as much I can on it. This was the same situation with me when I bought the ESP. That's when the real practice started.

Every guitar feels differently. The neck is different, the weight is different, the neck/srings distance, the tone and the whole feel is different. So this is the reason I'd buy that guitar and practice on it.

If your determination is strong like you've written here, you already deserve that guitar biggrin.gif

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Apr 20 2010, 11:21 AM
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Hey Man,

Sorry, My advice will be a bit controversial but I totally agree with your frame of thought. I sorta think in the same way.

So why don't you practice atleast 5 lessons (all level 4-5, your comfort level), record it with video and submit it for REC.
After you clear your 5th lesson. Go to that store and buy that guitar !!

Im probably the only person who's going to suggest this, so it's entirely upto you how you want to 'earn' that guitar.

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maharzan
Apr 20 2010, 11:31 AM
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I would say again, just forget it man.. since you already have a guitar just practice as much and as fast as you can to grab all the skills (fast doesn't mean TEMPO but grab things fast dedicate more time) smile.gif

Who knows, after some months of practice, you will want to try another guitar.. As your skill level increases, you will want to try getting a guitar that suits you best at that time. As an example, if you are a metalhead right now, you will want to get BC RICH or whatever guitar but after 6-8months, you want to explore more and shift to jazz / blues in any case, you wouldn't want to play the METAL guitar, you know. smile.gif

Just save it for now and maybe you can buy your dream guitar then. smile.gif

I would do that if I were you.

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Ivan Milenkovic
Apr 20 2010, 03:37 PM
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Some people buy guitar because they really need one, some people can afford to buy several even if they play one most. Nothing wrong with both things I guess, you can buy as many as you like. New guitar can for sure inspire you to practice and play more, so in that sense it's a good thing to do. On the other hand, if you are left broke, you will need some time to get something else wink.gif So choose carefully.

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Apr 20 2010, 04:30 PM
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I have a guitar on my list with the same credentials as you... a John Petrucci Music Man!

I don't necessarily have any requirements in stone or anything, but I like the idea of being able to play a couple of John Petrucci solos before I go buy the guitar.

Maybe you will also like this idea... assuming you can't play RR yet, maybe set the goal of learning two or three of your favourite songs or solos by him and once you are able to play them, go buy the guitar and rip it up like it's supposed to be!

I get exactly what you mean! I don't want to buy a JP Music Man and be playing Yankee Doodle smile.gif

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Apr 20 2010, 06:52 PM
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I don't know how good you are, but depending on your playing level, pick one of the following songs, and don't get the guitar until you can play it perfectly "everytime" :

Nothing Else Matters (lv 3/4)
Stairway To Heaven (lv 5/6)
Sweet Child O'Mine (lv 7/8)
Master Of Puppets (lv9/10)

Although the songs differ technique-wise, they all require much dedication to get exactly right. Pick one, and if you can play it, you have shown more then enough dedication to get the RR wink.gif

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Apr 21 2010, 06:59 AM
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I think you should just get the guitar, seriously..
A great guitar is a better player than a cheap one (usually), which in turn will make it more fun to play smile.gif

I've got a $6500 Nik Huber Redwood Custom guitar, and I'm no good at all biggrin.gif

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Apr 21 2010, 09:12 AM
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Haha.. Now you are confused!! smile.gif Well, we can all suggest and there are always 2 sides in everything. Some will push you to buy some will not. So, you will have to decide for your own now. Whatever your heart says. smile.gif

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QUOTE (maharzan @ Apr 21 2010, 10:12 AM) *
Haha.. Now you are confused!! smile.gif Well, we can all suggest and there are always 2 sides in everything. Some will push you to buy some will not. So, you will have to decide for your own now. Whatever your heart says. smile.gif


the only option left is: we could make a survey and you would have to follow the polls results smile.gif

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You can set yourself any goal. But try to keep it realistic and within reach. Choose a technique you want to upgrade or one to learn from scratch like sweeping/tapping (I don't know your skills etc). To measure it you can choose a lesson that represents well that technique and work on making a REC take (if you can record audio/video). Then once you have the goal you can start doing exercises to achieve it.

Or you can just get a guitar now and continue practicing. smile.gif

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Glad to have you here at GMC smile.gif That is a very nice guitar you plan on buying. I think you'll be very happy with it. As far as goals, I'd say make it a goal to keep your practice up. That alone will keep every other playing goal moving along, If you can manage to play an hour or two each and every day, you will notice your playing get better and better. That alone is a very worthy goal as playing ever day isn't something everyone can do, even if they want to. So in short, if you can keep your promise to yourself to practice, the goals in terms of playing this or that, will almost take care of themselves. It's always good to have goals, so maybe pick a solo, or technique that you really want to learn and work towards it.

Practice!
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I think we're all overlooking the one skill you need in order to play that guitar.

Can you play standing up?

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I've been playing guitar a year and a half and already have 3 guitars. I recently found myself wanting a 7 string. I'm going to wait because I just bought my Jackson a few months ago, and it's not necessary to buy another one so soon. This is just me....

whatever you choose is cool! I know I'd probably be wanting to buy it.

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