Which Pickups Are Better For Metal?, EMG 81/85 or Duncan jb/59
Which Pickups Are Better For Metal?
which pickups are better for metal???
EMG 81/85 [ 21 ] ** [58.33%]
Seymore Duncan JB/59 [ 15 ] ** [41.67%]
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Outlaw2112
Apr 3 2009, 12:54 AM
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Im looking at another guitar, but it has the duncan jb/59 setup in it... I currently use the emg 81/85 setup which i love..
I dont want to be disappointed so i thought i would post something on here for everyones opinion

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Not a fan of Dimarzios then?

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Since you are looking for another guitar, I would advise go for the Seymour Duncan. The reason is simple, you will have variety of tone for metal. If you really like the guitar, go for it. Don't let the pick-up as the main obstruction. Furthermore, you can switch the pick-up later on if you really don't like it. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE (VictorUK @ Apr 3 2009, 01:18 AM) *
All pickups have different characteristics you cant get a heavier sound by using active pickups, it is a myth that active pickups give a heavier sound than passive ones, except they do have low noise.

BTW why only two choices? theres much much more better ones out there.

This is my guitar which has emgs in it but im no fan of the floyd rose and i never use it... I love
the way my guitar feels and plays

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product...EMGs?sku=512954

heres the guitar i was thinking about getting which is the same guitar, just has duncans in it and no
floyd rose

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product...itar?sku=518619

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Outlaw2112
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QUOTE (VictorUK @ Apr 3 2009, 01:25 AM) *
Damn if that one with duncans in had a floyd rose i'd get it anyday over one that had active pickups.

lol.. the floyd rose is what im trying to get away from

have you played on duncans jb/59 setup?

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Apr 3 2009, 01:58 AM
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First of all: IF you like the LTD why don't you upgrade to the ESP version of that guitar?!?
It's a hughe step in quality and tone if you get the ESP Horizon (that's the one instructor Ian Bushell plays)

http://www.thomann.de/gb/esp_horizon_nt_bk.htm

Pickups: The SH-4 is the Jeff Beck signature pickup and considered to be an allrounder, it handles pretty much every genre from Jazz, Fusion, Funk, Shred, Blues, Rock and Metal (considering metal: Lamb Of God, Arch Enemy and IroN maiden use or have used the SH-4)

The Sh-4 will handle metal but it will sound and react totally diffrent to your EMG81, it has less output, less high end and more noise than an 81, on the other hand it has more dynamics and is more versatily than an EMG81...

The Sh-1 or 59 is a PAF style vintage pickup - I don't understand why they always put this one togethter with the SH-4 - The 59 has a very low output so that it is less loud than the bridge sh-4 which os kinda odd. Also the 59 sounds very muddy and doesn't clean up too well...all in all it's not the best neck pickup. A 59 bridge in the neck or a Seymour Duncan SH-2 Jazz would be a better match.

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A while back I compared my Jackson SL3 with Duncan JB bridge back to back with my Schecter with EMG's. Went back and forth and back and forth and for me there was no contest, I liked the JB much better (for metal and all styles really). I preferred the overal sound and especially the dynamics and harmonics. Just my preference though... of course the guitar's wood, the amp, and lots of other things factor in.

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I'm 100% SD. I've got THIS bad boy in my Ibanez (came stock).

Also I've had a set of '59s in my Epi LP and the neck was awesome! The bridge didn't have enough bite for me.

Personally, I'd go for a '59 in the neck, and the TB-10 in the bridge.

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Just ordered the green esp from musicians friend... Ill try them both out and see what one i want to keep.

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QUOTE (Outlaw2112 @ Apr 2 2009, 10:22 PM) *
Just ordered the green esp from musicians friend... Ill try them both out and see what one i want to keep.


Congrats on the new guitar! My wife never pays attention to the looks of any of my guitars, but she's absolutely nuts about anything green and would probably go gaga over that ESP!

Once you get it, let us know what you think of the Duncans! And just remember, you're so used to the EMG's it might take awhile to really tell whether you like the Duncans or not. And maybe you won't, but definitely give them a chance for at least a little while. wink.gif

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I have 45 days to decide... gotta love musicians friend

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A tremol-no could be the answer to keeping your FR guitar and at the same time lose the floyd rose function.

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The Seymore Duncan JB/59 it's a classic, you wont be disappointed!

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Ok. if it's a choice between the two I'd probably opt for the SD's over the EMG's however I don't have that much experience with either. I've played a Jackson with SD pups and an ESP with EMGs - I preferred the Jackson for the dynamic response.

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QUOTE (Outlaw2112 @ Apr 3 2009, 02:26 AM) *
lol.. the floyd rose is what im trying to get away from


Since I switched to guitars without a trem my fingers are sore far more often from all the bending. rolleyes.gif

With regards to the pickups. I've got an EMG81tw/89 combo in my Hellraiser. I do generally prefer them over the JB/Jazz in my other Schecter because they've got more punch and clarity. The emgs are a bit more compressed however. But in my opinion that doesn't matter much when you play with lots of gain. Because the sound is very compressed anyway. But they are quite different pickups so I wouldn't say that one is better for metal than the other. You'll probably be happy to have both sounds available. At least I am smile.gif

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I'm a huge fan of EMG. I think they have a certain clarity and punch to them that makes them excellent for metal and also leads.
The SD's are technically just as good, but it's more of a matter of preference here i would say.
Personally i think the SD's are lacking something. Some would say exactly the opposite.

The best advice i can think of is trying them both out on a familiar amp.

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I like this high, scratchy and screaming sound of duncans! Emg´s are some kind of virtual to me. But try both of them on a familiar amp as trond said. I did it and the choice wasn´t too hard. But anyway one day ill go for some emg´s too!

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when i get my new guitar ill post samples of both pickups played through the same settings

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I have a few guitars with EMGs in them, then I have my Dinky with the:


Bridge Pickup:
Seymour Duncan® JB™ TB4 Humbucking Pickup
Middle Pickup:
N/A
Neck Pickup:
Seymour Duncan® Jazz™ SH2N Humbucking Pickup

system in it.


I like having both.

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I would have thought EMGS would have ruled this poll, but the duncans are hanging in there..

I voted for emgs, but ive never played out of these duncans..

I have to say that im happy to see the duncans hanging with the emgs cause i
just bought that other guitar with the duncan jb/59 combo in it

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