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Posted by: Kyle Logue Feb 9 2008, 12:58 AM

My background is heavy into web development(I own my on company) and video production(I worked in a video studio for 2 years) and i noticed that a lot of people have problems with lighting.

If you're looking for something simple to make your lessons look more professional(with lighting), do a quick study on 3-point lighting.

http://www.3drender.com/light/3point.html

or you can do a google search on "3 point lighting"

lol...by the way... i don't do this currently, but plan to in the future.

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*http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=11698

*http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=12867

*http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=12548.

Posted by: Bogdan Feb 9 2008, 01:01 AM

Or just buy a massive 500w halogen lamp! heheheh
Just kidding!

This is a great topic and I will study it...Currently I'm into making the chroma key able background

Posted by: Kyle Logue Feb 9 2008, 01:03 AM

lol...we're talking about a professional setup...not a tanning salon

Posted by: Bogdan Feb 9 2008, 01:09 AM

Back to topic : what light source do you use for lessons ?
I would like to buy some professional lights for indoor use in the future..Don't have a wide choice here in my country though..

Posted by: Pavel Feb 9 2008, 01:13 AM

That setup in the tutorial is REALLY HARD to achieve in home conditions. I have 3 floodlights - 100W each and considering my room is 6.5 square meters big i don't have the space to achieve maximum conditions. Experimenting a lot i came to a conclusion that 2 lights are just enough. You can see the example of 2 lights setup here: http://www2.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guitar/shreddy-rock-trip-solo/

No daylight used at all. Shadows are really hard to avoid but with my current setup i think i made it to minimum and it looks really crisp and clean so i like it like it is

Posted by: Kyle Logue Feb 9 2008, 01:13 AM

right now i'm using lamps...but i'll soon have pro lights.

If you've got the money http://www.pclightingsystems.com/DFEZ/EZ-LITE%201050.htm
$395

Posted by: Pavel Feb 9 2008, 01:15 AM

That's a nice kit BUT requires a lot of space to arrange Also 1050Watts is a bit too much for home budget

Posted by: Kyle Logue Feb 9 2008, 01:16 AM

i agree, but if you're recording for short periods of time and have the space and $400...it's worth it.

Posted by: Pavel Feb 9 2008, 01:18 AM

Yeah definitely! I wish i had a room just for the recording work - so i can have all my guitar stuff, PC and gear in without having to climb over tons of cables and stands

Posted by: Milenkovic Ivan Feb 9 2008, 01:09 PM

I have one 500W and that is good enough for my lessons. They come out quite nicely. THe amount of lights that you need depends on the size of the room also. The bigger the room, the more light you need. But no matter how big the room is, more than 2x450W halogens is just too much. They will lid up the room quite nicely and then some.

Posted by: Wallimann Feb 9 2008, 02:53 PM

Excellent topic, thanks for the help Kyle!
I read of the 3 point lighting before, but it's true that it requires a lot of space...
But maybe it's worth it!

Posted by: Juan M. Valero Feb 9 2008, 03:16 PM

yeah, excellent topic, now I'm using 2 light (plus the light of my room or sun light ) but next mont I will have another light so I could try this 3-point lighting

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Feb 9 2008, 07:52 PM

Very nice advice here - thanks alot Kyle!

Posted by: Hisham Feb 9 2008, 10:29 PM

nice topic Kyle .

Posted by: Muris Feb 10 2008, 12:02 AM

I use 3 lamps as well David,pretty close to me,about 1 meter,different angles to kill shadows.
Smaller table lamps,smaller wattage,need to be closer but not that hot as those huge 500watts.

Posted by: Dejan Feb 10 2008, 12:17 PM

Thanks for the tips Kyle

I have three 75W bulbs on ceiling, and one 150W bulb just above and behind the camera, used to have a spot-light as well but then it was too bright.

I was thinking of getting reflective umbrellas, does anyone has any experience with them?

Posted by: Milenkovic Ivan Feb 10 2008, 05:54 PM

I was thinking to get something similar myself, like difusor or something. I think the shadows problem will be greatly overcomed by that.

Posted by: Muris Feb 10 2008, 06:51 PM

I believe avoiding shadows is easiest by using few lights,different angles.
Difusor/blend is great too,worth of trying.

Posted by: Bogdan Feb 11 2008, 01:32 AM

I'm using two lights..One is a halogen 500w reflector..It emits white light..And I have on the camera Sony HVL-20DW2 video light. Looks like this :

Its working nicely for me with proper cam setup...

Posted by: Muris Feb 11 2008, 03:08 AM

Sorry if I asked before,
what camera do you have Bogdan?

Posted by: Milenkovic Ivan Feb 11 2008, 03:19 AM

high quality camera like Bogdan's don't need a good light. It can produce a good image by default. Off course, good lightning is always welcome, so his videos look great.

Posted by: Bogdan Feb 11 2008, 02:00 PM

sony dcr vx-2100e

Posted by: Muris Feb 11 2008, 06:31 PM

Thanks,gonna check it

Posted by: Pavel Feb 11 2008, 06:36 PM

Ouch, that's a sick camera man! Very expensive - but i guess worth the money, ha?

Posted by: Kyle Logue Feb 11 2008, 06:39 PM

I'll have access to a Canon XL2 before long...woot!

Posted by: Bogdan Feb 11 2008, 06:47 PM

Actually its not mine, its my friends and I get to use it to record all lessons..He uses it to record stuff for national tv so its very good quality one..Also great features like mic in, headphones out,3CCD chip come in very handy..Its very good in low light environment (recording gigs for example) , it really shines there..Its definitely worth the money..

But for lesson you can do a very good job with a regular one too...Just proper setup and light and later on conversion would do the trick..

Posted by: Pavel Feb 11 2008, 07:30 PM

Yeah - fortunately i made my setup work with a regular miniDV camera and 2-3 floodlights

EDIT: do you use streaming or record to tape and than to PC?

Posted by: Bogdan Feb 11 2008, 07:42 PM

I record everything to tape...I stream audio from my computer to cam.Than later on I transfer everything back to computer..
Floodlights rule I use one too

Posted by: Milenkovic Ivan Feb 12 2008, 10:06 PM

What is floodlight Bogdan, is that the light form the camera? How different it is from the ordinary light, or halogen?

Posted by: Bogdan Feb 12 2008, 10:30 PM

Pavel called it that way..Its just the regular 500w reflector (the square one)..

The light on the camera is a little bit different..I'm no expert on it , it has to do something with the color intensity which it emits...This one have : color of light 3200 K value...
I know video lights are different from regular ones..maybe Kyle can shade some light on the subject (he worked in a video studio) ..

Posted by: Pavel Feb 12 2008, 11:54 PM

Floodlight is what we call "reflektor" in Croatian

Posted by: Muris Feb 13 2008, 12:03 AM

Fell free to use "reflektor" word,
we're kind of majority here

Posted by: Dejan Feb 13 2008, 12:18 AM

although Argentina is behind are backs

Posted by: Muris Feb 13 2008, 12:59 AM

Search for more guys,we must stay on the top of the list

Posted by: Pavel Feb 13 2008, 10:11 AM

Haha good one m8!

Posted by: Milenkovic Ivan Feb 13 2008, 11:19 PM

I think that video lamp has diode lights that are white and soft, as opposed to halogen "sharp" light that creates shadows more easily. I'm not an expert tough, maybe if someone else besides us (fellow neighbours) can come on the topic and shed some light on the subject

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Feb 17 2008, 12:05 PM

This is really important for home recordings - but as you say can be compensated with great light conditions!

Posted by: Milenkovic Ivan Feb 17 2008, 02:53 PM

I've had a chance to see that camera, and for the money - it is worth it. The picture in low light environments is not grainy or aberrated at all, and the colors are real. Off course throw in a couple of 500Watters there and you have a pro setup

Posted by: Danilo Capezzuto Mar 22 2008, 10:56 AM