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Posted by: kevin-riff-after-riff Mar 14 2008, 05:54 PM
damn i just came up with this conclusion today, the popular music now sucks! lol i noticed, hip hop and rappin stuff yeah? they play it in clubs, but it seems to appear that these types of music realllyy suck because people in the clubs are having to take drugs to enjoy themselves lol, to get things goin, coz the "music" they are playing, really sucks!
i know all the woodstock stuff, weed etc, but thats like just mild compared to the stronger extacy that the people in these clubs have to take to stop them from being bored!
whilst if you go to a iron maiden concert or whatnot, the music gets the people going, yes there are some stoners in the crowd, but most of them actually like the music and that gives them energy to rock out, they dont need drugs to enjoy themselves, they go to these concerts coz the musics good and all, not because "its cool" (well maybe for some scene kids that the reason)
so my conclusion is that im bored thats why im ranting about this
but also that people (like those people, you understand) are stupid, they clearly dont like that squiggle of noise but they carry on listening to it, torturing their little brains 
i wish good music was in the "scene" 
Posted by: steve25 Mar 14 2008, 05:57 PM
Unfortunatly that's the UK for you. I agree how can rap be music? There's hardly any music in it is there? That's one of the reasons i like metal is that not only does it sound good but it takes a lot of skill as well. Club music sucks, i've never been to a club before but i've heard plenty of what they play there and its enough to put me off completely.
Posted by: Robin Mar 14 2008, 06:23 PM
Most pop music today sucks indeed, but there are exceptions.
Btw, i think this is like the 2148390184th thread about this hehe.
Posted by: DeepRoots Mar 14 2008, 06:27 PM
Btw, i think this is like the 2148390184th thread about this hehe.
Nah man more like 2148390185th...
I agree, some sucks, some doesnt suck, some is quite good
However- at saturday night i dont care what music their playing- ill be at the nightclubs untill the morning..may not like the music- but i just ignore it- theres no point wasting energy hating on anything.
Posted by: mattacuk Mar 14 2008, 06:35 PM
I agree, some sucks, some doesnt suck, some is quite good
However- at saturday night i dont care what music their playing- ill be at the nightclubs untill the morning..may not like the music- but i just ignore it- theres no point wasting energy hating on anything.
I agree, theres no harm in any kinda music is thats what makes people happy
When i go out clubbing i like to boogie to europop 
But I wouldnt actually listen to that at home... honest 
Posted by: PhoeniX Mar 14 2008, 07:07 PM
The majority of pop music sucks, but the people listen it, cuz it's simple xD they dont have To deduce anything.
and the metal, the rock, de hard rock, etc. are too complex, and that's what we love!! xD 
Sorry for my bad english
Posted by: Praetorian Mar 14 2008, 07:10 PM
Another big complaint I have is there just doesn't seem to be any guitarists in "popular" music anymore. It seems like the lead guitar has faded out.
Posted by: SLASH91 Mar 14 2008, 07:10 PM
You mean every where.
It's just like that in the US to
Posted by: Duncan Mar 14 2008, 07:19 PM
I hate all this Rap/Hip-Hop bashing, because there is a lot of good rap about.
Posted by: mattacuk Mar 14 2008, 07:25 PM
Well you know, people can "hate" pop or rap or whatever...but sometimes its better to just accept that it keeps some people happy, and that because we are mature musicians we know where the real good music is?
Posted by: The Uncreator Mar 14 2008, 07:28 PM
It's just like that in the US to I have a feeling all the rappers in the US arent to big over in Norway, Finland, Sweden, Germany, or Japan
Popular music varies where you go, I mean hell, Dream Evil are virtually unknown in the US, but in Japan....They LOVE them.It all depends on location.
Posted by: SLASH91 Mar 14 2008, 07:34 PM
Popular music varies where you go, I mean hell, Dream Evil are virtually unknown in the US, but in Japan....They LOVE them.It all depends on location.
I just meant that rap in general is big pretty much everywhere. Of course not in like the Himalayas or Antarctica or anything like that, but rap is hugely popular in all of North and South America and most of Europe. I have no idea what they listen to in Asia or the middle East though
Posted by: Robin Mar 14 2008, 07:41 PM
Popular music varies where you go, I mean hell, Dream Evil are virtually unknown in the US, but in Japan....They LOVE them.It all depends on location.
We got exactly the same crap over here
Posted by: Iluha Mar 14 2008, 07:41 PM
I just got 6 words on this subject: "Money makes the world go round" 
Posted by: kevin-riff-after-riff Mar 14 2008, 09:51 PM
Btw, i think this is like the 2148390184th thread about this hehe.
lol yeah but it needs to be reminded that rap isnt music, its talking fast, like my gf, she is a great rapper, can never win a arguement.
im not rap bashing, im bashing bad music, not targeting rap! infact rapping is probably one of my favourite form of vocals in a band, i like it when funk bands have a lead vocals person who raps sometimes, like chilis, but anthony can sing as well and write good lyrics with a inner meaning such as "Space may be the final frontier But it's made in a Hollywood basement" etc. i just dont like 50 cent making money from having someone who knows two chords on the keyboard in the back repeating the same damn thing and have half a drummer repeating the same damn thing and have his friends goin "yeah!" once in a while... although i do have a secret favour for ludacris there are some pretty good stuff in there
Popular music varies where you go, I mean hell, Dream Evil are virtually unknown in the US, but in Japan....They LOVE them.It all depends on location.
i wish i lived in japan! have you seen that thread with paul gilbert and marty fryingpan on japanese tv having a shred off, and when you look on replated videos on youtube, theres loads of other ones, kerry king etc. at least the japanese media stilll
Posted by: Guitarman700 Mar 14 2008, 09:58 PM
exactly who is "marty fryingpan"?
Posted by: Capt.Z Mar 14 2008, 10:26 PM
I hate club music so much. I come home from da club
after havin some beers. i take out my iPod and listen to Da Shop Boyz!
"Party like a rockstar. Party like a rock, party like a rock!"
Just kidding. Rapping is crap!
Posted by: Owen Mar 14 2008, 11:36 PM
As much as I am a total metalhead, one could feasibly argue that all metal is just demonic trash with no talent and animal noise vocals - now all of you here know its a little more refined than that:- thats mainstream opinion, truth is that your perception of other genres of music is pretty much what media outlets tell you, unless you yourselves happen to delve deeper and make investigations of your own.
I remember when I first listened to metal, I hated it, but with generally exposure to anything you can get used to it and even come to really enjoy it - you find your niché in a particular area.
Make no mistake, even if you dont think a record is good theres generally always a LOT of talent coming from somewhere inputted into it, most people here could not produce something as good as your average rap or dance record even if they had the kit to do so.
Posted by: Capt.Z Mar 14 2008, 11:52 PM
This is true for death metal, or sreamo. I personally hate it, but
some people like trash and others like other trash.
Does this make sense to u?
Posted by: Owen Mar 15 2008, 12:06 AM
some people like trash and others like other trash.
Does this make sense to u?
And some people listen to Linkin Park
Posted by: JVM Mar 15 2008, 12:08 AM
I remember when I first listened to metal, I hated it, but with generally exposure to anything you can get used to it and even come to really enjoy it - you find your niché in a particular area.
Make no mistake, even if you dont think a record is good theres generally always a LOT of talent coming from somewhere inputted into it, most people here could not produce something as good as your average rap or dance record even if they had the kit to do so.
Words of wisdom from my man Owen.
Posted by: Stevie·Ray·Vaughn Mar 15 2008, 12:09 AM
We have much to learn from you Owen
Posted by: Hemlok Mar 15 2008, 12:13 AM
AHahahahahahaha I thought we had this discussion when some people started ripping into Avril Lavigne
Posted by: Nemanja Mar 15 2008, 12:23 AM
John Mayer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPOBMzMTP4U
Posted by: kevin-riff-after-riff Mar 15 2008, 02:25 AM
think hes acyually marty friedman
I remember when I first listened to metal, I hated it, but with generally exposure to anything you can get used to it and even come to really enjoy it - you find your niché in a particular area.
Make no mistake, even if you dont think a record is good theres generally always a LOT of talent coming from somewhere inputted into it, most people here could not produce something as good as your average rap or dance record even if they had the kit to do so.
some gd points but if your daddy owns the hiltons, you dont need no talent
lol that wasme again
Posted by: JVM Mar 15 2008, 02:30 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPOBMzMTP4U
+1
Not always crazy about John's songs (though he has some really good ones) but he's a great guitar player.
Posted by: Owen Mar 15 2008, 02:34 AM
There's talent involved in hiding the inherent lack of talent
Posted by: Nemanja Mar 15 2008, 02:35 AM
Not always crazy about John's songs (though he has some really good ones) but he's a great guitar player.
what I like about him ..is that I think he figure out how to bring back the blues to the big scene...so I must respect that....
agree with you about the songs...but I enjoy "withing for the world to change"....
Posted by: bladzerok Mar 15 2008, 02:38 AM
I come home from da clubafter havin some beers.
arent you 13 years old?
anyway
Posted by: Alucard Mar 15 2008, 02:42 AM
Ehhh, I've had this argument so many times with some many different people. I may be totally wrong, but perhaps the people who exclusively listen to the popular music are kind of ignorant to some of the other alternates available. When most people hear I like metal music, they say some thing like "So you like Metallica then?" 
They may just listen to what ever is on the radio or because all their friends are listening to it, even though they may not enjoy it themselves.
The only problem I have with all the "popular" music (besides the fact I don't care for it ) is that the people who preform it are waaay outclassed by artists like Symphony X, Dream Theater, Vai, Blind Guardian, etc, but these guys and hundreds others never get the mainstream recognition that they deserve. Instead, generally talentless rap artists or the newest pop-punk band get all of the radio play time and various music awards that are better suited for the people who actually deserve to be recognized.
Posted by: JVM Mar 15 2008, 02:55 AM
agree with you about the songs...but I enjoy "withing for the world to change"....
Yeah, I think the whole continuum album is very good. And Try. The main riff on the song try is awesome
I just don't like some of his lyrics when they make him sound like a whiny middle/upper class class guy or when he gets too depressive.. it's like cheer up john, you're a millionaire doing what you love, stop whining about how your BMW won't start (okay bit of an exaggeration, but really I like the guy)
Posted by: Nemanja Mar 15 2008, 02:58 AM
They may just listen to what ever is on the radio or because all their friends are listening to it, even though they may not enjoy it themselves. The only problem I have with all the "popular" music (besides the fact I don't care for it
) is that the people who preform it are waaay outclassed by artists like Symphony X, Dream Theater, Vai, Blind Guardian, etc, but these guys and hundreds others never get the mainstream recognition that they deserve. Instead, generally talentless rap artists or the newest pop-punk band get all of the radio play time and various music awards that are better suited for the people who actually deserve to be recognized.well sad...that first part about metallica is the same in every corner of the world...here too in Serbia....people say "well I don't like Rap,Countr and Metallica music"....
....but never underestimate the power of good old simple 4/4 hit..it is very hard to "hit" the wright atmosphere,and the melody that is as stupid that can be,but drown milions of people to it...for example...there is one very stupid song..calld "Umbrella"..ela...e...e...e....thatis so stupid and simplle line...but top charts.millions of dollars....ars...ars..a...a...
Posted by: Nemanja Mar 15 2008, 02:59 AM
I just don't like some of his lyrics when they make him sound like a whiny middle/upper class class guy or when he gets too depressive.. it's like cheer up john, you're a millionaire doing what you love, stop whining about how your BMW won't start (okay bit of an exaggeration, but really I like the guy) agree 100 %
Posted by: Smikey2006 Mar 15 2008, 03:05 AM
just for this thread.. i present to you.. a techno song.. that my bassist wrote.. in about 10 minutes I don't mind rap at all.. i can't stand "Gangsta Rap, or UnderGround Rap" I like rap that has a message and tells a story for anyone from the UK i really enjoy " The Streets" and i like stuff by some more reputable rap artists.. this comeing from a complete metalhead. Techno music is the classic rock of today.. all the hippies seem to listen to techno now.. or "electronic music" Its not all bad stuff groups like "Infected Mushroom" and "Daft Punk" are really creating some impressive music dispite the lack of "instrumental talant" It still takes a keen ear to create such intricate melodies and beats. Really all and all music is meant to be listened to and enjoyed and if anyone is doing that over any genre of music then the artists have succeeded.. On the level of Pop Music.. music that is created for the soul purpose of being catchy and making money, dragging in minds that havn't had the time to find their own taste and therefore follow the crowd.. this music i do not like.. i don't mind indie pop artists.. indie music is kinda fun theres my rant.. listen to the song if you want.. its actually kinda fun to listen to
im gunna post this and edit the song in later as im having troubles with it..
Posted by: Nemanja Mar 15 2008, 03:10 AM
The Streets are great...I love them too....
Posted by: Goliath Mar 15 2008, 03:23 AM
Popular music in large part seems to be on a global scale, whatever is popular on MTV in the United States. This is not because the music on MTV is particularly good, just that bad music is one of the US's chief exports. It's not just music, but the culture and style associated with it. If you would reflect on what RHCP meant when they coined the term "Californication", you can realize what they are talking about when you put it in this context. It's not necessarily talent in music, but there is definite marketing talent and promo talent involved. A lot of people in the US listen to trash because that's what is available to them on the radio. I know if I listen to my "rock" station, it's either Super Tramp or Nickelback. Neither of these bands do I get excited about listening to. Don't get mad at other people for making this stuff popular, just enjoy what you enjoy and be done with it.
Also, about metal concerts, I've had many a beer with many a metal head at many a metal show in many a concert hall. Don't kid yourself. People will take all sorts of "mind altering" substances when they're at a place to seek novelty/enjoyment for no other reason than they believe that it will heighten their experience. At a metal show, I drink several beers then stop just before the band comes on. This drug phenomenon is not limited to pop music, you can even find it at jazz and piano bars.
Take heart and know that everything is cyclical. Rap/Hip-hop dominate the mainstream, but if 2 or 3 good rock acts take the stage around the same time, it might swing back in Rock's direction.
Posted by: Nemanja Mar 15 2008, 03:25 AM
I agree....
Posted by: Danilo Capezzuto Mar 15 2008, 02:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPOBMzMTP4U
+1
Posted by: Muris Mar 15 2008, 02:13 PM
Yeah,most of it isn't that great,that's bussiness unfortunately...
But there are still many awesome bands and artists working and rocking all around the globe.
Luckily,globe isn't such a small place.
Posted by: kevin-riff-after-riff Mar 15 2008, 06:29 PM
theres my rant.. listen to the song if you want.. its actually kinda fun to listen to i like songs with message, but i dont like raps that just raps about how "i is well rich" or whatnot. daft punk type techno isnt really that mainstream i like daft punk, i am mainly complaining about 50 cent types...
yeah i know, but there are less people out of there heads at proper concerts than rubbish (imo) ones... besides from stoner rock, but that is just funny.
But there are still many awesome bands and artists working and rocking all around the globe.
Luckily,globe isn't such a small place.
yeah there are, LOTS of them. but they never seem to get the stuff they deserve
like someone else said above
Posted by: The Uncreator Mar 15 2008, 06:34 PM
Well, I dont think you should start a band to get mainstream attention, Sure, always try to increase your fanbase and get your music heard. But some of those bands you mention that dont get mainstream attention, I'm sure there still happy without it, Their there to play the music they love, the music they want to hear, for the people who want to hear it, And if mainstream doesnt like it, Too bad I Say
Posted by: stratman33 Mar 15 2008, 11:41 PM
lol i remember that thread...
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