Developing Speed, Learn how to play blazing fast! |
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Aug 7 2008, 01:53 PM
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Very well said!
I had problems with speed, and what i did was exactly that. Lets say theres a solo in 100 bpm i cant do, i set the metronome at 300 bpm and try that a few times, and when i get down to 100 bpm again, its like and easy solo! so i think pushing yourself way too long will actually help! Did with me thoguh 
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Aug 7 2008, 01:53 PM
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Totally agree Marcus!
It is completely another feel and it's good to try some faster stuff, even just right hand picking,or typing with fretting hand's fingers on the fretboard. Great topic.  -------------------- Youtube
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Aug 7 2008, 02:15 PM
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Very well put, playing fast is a whole another story from playing slow and articulate of course
But... i don't have 300 bpm on my metronome, only 240 
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Aug 7 2008, 02:24 PM
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I completly agree with what you said Marcus, can't really add anything on the subject
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Aug 7 2008, 02:54 PM
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That's some great advice Marcus! About two years ago I hit a barrier speed wise that I just couldn't get past. Everything I had read said that in order to pass that barrier I should practice slow and articulate and work my way up but it just wasn't working. It felt like no matter what I did, my playing just fell apart when I reached that magical barrier. When I was about to give up I stumbled on this article by Tom Hess which gives a more detailed account and a very structured way to do just what you suggest.
I took two of the things I was currently practising and put them through the grinder and I got results really fast. Sure I had to do clean up to make sure that I wasn't playing sloppy but I had finally broken that barrier and opened up my playing considerably. One thing I noticed when I did the exercise the first few times was that even though I could physically play it, my psychological perception of what I was playing and the part of the brain that "plans ahead" were having real trouble keeping pace with what my fingers were doing. I think that the psychological aspect of playing is discussed way to little (maybe because I'm a psychologist ), many books and such that I have read don't talk about this at all. Tom Hess article is the first I have read that basically says that maybe there's nothing wrong with your playing on a physical level but your mind needs to catch up.
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Aug 7 2008, 03:00 PM
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Some time ago, someone posted a thread about a software to help on speed.
The curve I saw on the software is exactly what you explained in words, Marcus. A practice session should go over the comfortable speed, up to totally impossible speed and then slowly down. When going down on speed it will look much easier then when increasing it.... 
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Aug 7 2008, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE (Smurkas @ Aug 7 2008, 03:54 PM)  That's some great advice Marcus! About two years ago I hit a barrier speed wise that I just couldn't get past. Everything I had read said that in order to pass that barrier I should practice slow and articulate and work my way up but it just wasn't working. It felt like no matter what I did, my playing just fell apart when I reached that magical barrier. When I was about to give up I stumbled on this article by Tom Hess which gives a more detailed account and a very structured way to do just what you suggest. I took two of the things I was currently practising and put them through the grinder and I got results really fast. Sure I had to do clean up to make sure that I wasn't playing sloppy but I had finally broken that barrier and opened up my playing considerably. One thing I noticed when I did the exercise the first few times was that even though I could physically play it, my psychological perception of what I was playing and the part of the brain that "plans ahead" were having real trouble keeping pace with what my fingers were doing. I think that the psychological aspect of playing is discussed way to little (maybe because I'm a psychologist ), many books and such that I have read don't talk about this at all. Tom Hess article is the first I have read that basically says that maybe there's nothing wrong with your playing on a physical level but your mind needs to catch up.Thank for your great input Smurkas, and for the link to that article. I also think that the psychological aspect is mentioned way too little in the guitar world. But I find it very interesting! |
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Aug 7 2008, 03:28 PM
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Haha, this is odd!
 I do the same thing: Every time, Muris for instance, drops the bomb with a jaw-breaking solo with 32th triplets at 150 bpm, I go for it and do my best, even though I fail miserably. But I always think of the instructional video "Rock Discipline" by John Petrucci (the progfather  ) in which he said that one should try something they can't do at a reasonable speed, at insane speeds instead. And I quote: "Just go up to 200 bpm and kill yourself. Then when you go back to about 130 bpm, it will seem like it's much easier because you've just been at 200 bpm."Here's the link. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tOfDxUlxK0...feature=related Couldn't find the real clip, but the above clip is right after he's said it. So go ahead! KILL YOURSELF!
This post has been edited by seagull: Aug 7 2008, 03:37 PM |
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Aug 7 2008, 03:59 PM
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I absolutely agree qith you Marcus. Actually I use speed runs to warm up for shows sometimes. After warming up normally I play through some more difficult or fast parts of songs that are on the setlist, but I try to play them faster than they actually are, like 20-30% faster. Then when we play the songs on stage later the real speed is much more comfortable to play
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