Transcribing, An extremely important topic overlooked by most of today's guitari |
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Transcribing, An extremely important topic overlooked by most of today's guitari |
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Aug 18 2013, 04:21 PM |
This is a very good topic Sam. I started playing the guitar in a world where there wasn't internet, there wasn't tempo slower software, and it you wanted a tab, you had to order it via amazon and buy the full sheet music songbook. I only had my cassettes and my player. I always learnt songs by year, sometimes checking it with my friends. I also remember that when I was 15 I started studying with a teacher who introduce me into the shred playing and he use to teach me Malmsteen, Saraceno, Gilbert songs, transcribing this ones in front of me, at the moment of the class. This also helped to to train my ear. After some time I was able to transcribe very difficult songs by my own. I started to give private classes and students asked me to do the same. So I was both working and training my year at the same time.
Nowadays I can say that my ear is my more valuable positive side as a musician. I believe that there are no limits if you have a goo musical ear, that's why I agree 100% with Sam about prioritizing your ear training, transcribing songs. -------------------- My lessons
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Aug 19 2013, 05:14 AM
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very inspirational post. i have yet to transcribe my first song. i think i will do it today.
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Aug 19 2013, 08:21 AM |
I have to agree with you guys I only use sheet music, because of my constant struggle with time - sometimes, I need to sort things out on the run and I don't have enough time to listen and learn the oldschool way. I too was born and started studying the instrument in a time when the internet was barely beginning to show its face (1998-1999) and if i wanted to learn something, I either had to listen to it and sort it out or .. ask a friend to teach me
I had a friend - the one who's actually responsible for me picking up the guitar - who was writing down short passages from famous songs on napkins and he brought them into the park where he taught me how to play them and we would then play together - those were the days!! About training your ear - our hearing is the most essential thing in our musical development. You can play with demon speed but if you can't hear a melody in your head with the aid of which you can express your feelings in a musical way, it's all for nothing. I totally recommend an ear training course, which helped me a lot: http://www.amazon.com/The-Relative-Pitch-T...e/dp/0942542304 How do you guys train your ears? |
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Aug 19 2013, 12:27 PM |
man i owe almost all of my progress as a musician in the past few years to dropping tabs completely out of my world. its funny when i was younger i didnt even know you could do it by ear . i just assumed well..i knew how to read tabs and i didnt know how to read music back then so these are the only ways. And also my god tabs for me were next to impssible to memorize but once i got something by ear it was mine, nearly instantly awesome post! Thanks a lot, everyone's replies are making me very happy, we need to spread the message, even if you don't or can't teach, just tell other instrument players to transcribe and how they can start out and what advantages they'll get, the biggest one being that you don't really need to memorize anything, because what you're figuring out by ear is already being saved in your memory automatically very inspirational post. i have yet to transcribe my first song. i think i will do it today. Thank you sumitnxt if I am able to inspire even a single person to start transcribing, it really makes me happy, and of course, you or anyone else can ask help from me anytime, or our amazing multi-talented instructors, I'm sure they're eager to help anyone who needs any sort of help I have to agree with you guys I only use sheet music, because of my constant struggle with time - sometimes, I need to sort things out on the run and I don't have enough time to listen and learn the oldschool way. I too was born and started studying the instrument in a time when the internet was barely beginning to show its face (1998-1999) and if i wanted to learn something, I either had to listen to it and sort it out or .. ask a friend to teach me I had a friend - the one who's actually responsible for me picking up the guitar - who was writing down short passages from famous songs on napkins and he brought them into the park where he taught me how to play them and we would then play together - those were the days!! About training your ear - our hearing is the most essential thing in our musical development. You can play with demon speed but if you can't hear a melody in your head with the aid of which you can express your feelings in a musical way, it's all for nothing. I totally recommend an ear training course, which helped me a lot: http://www.amazon.com/The-Relative-Pitch-T...e/dp/0942542304 How do you guys train your ears? Thanks Cosmin! Its okay if someone really doesn't have time like yourself, but at least you can transcribe when need be and you're amazing at making the guitar speak what you hear in your head I've actually heard only good things about that course, but its a bit too expensive for me I actually won a program called EarMaster (http://www.earmaster.com/) in a competition, which normally costs $60, and I've been using it, its pretty good! There's an alternative freeware program to EarMaster called GNU Solfege (http://www.solfege.org/) which I've also used. Its the same program as EarMaster, just the user interface is not very decorated Beautifull memories - spending so much time on transcribing hard things and creating your own "how this could be played" in the places You could hear precisely in the recordings... Such as Gabe I was lucky enough to start my playing this way. I only remember I was able to get tabs to the Extreme's "Pornograffitti" album...only tabs I own for many years Thanks Darius I only have one tab book too, its the Guns n Roses "Use Your Illusion" tab book Man you guys were lucky to transcribe legends |
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Aug 19 2013, 01:43 PM |
Beautifull memories - spending so much time on transcribing hard things and creating your own "how this could be played" in the places You could hear precisely in the recordings... Such as Gabe I was lucky enough to start my playing this way. I only remember I was able to get tabs to the Extreme's "Pornograffitti" album...only tabs I own for many years Nice choice! My "only tabs for years" in those days was "Surfing with the alien" by Satriani. -------------------- My lessons
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Aug 19 2013, 07:10 PM
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I totally recommend an ear training course, which helped me a lot: http://www.amazon.com/The-Relative-Pitch-T...e/dp/0942542304 How do you guys train your ears? I agree strongly with this course, it's marvellous. I generally train my ears by practicing solfege or doing drills from The Relative Pich supercourse. Sometimes I will use small software like Ear Master School or Tenuto to practice identifying modes and scales and chords. But for the basic stuff I do solfege and singing. This book has helped me a lot: http://www.amazon.com/Jazz-Ears-Aural-Skil...s/dp/0793579406 Edit: By solfege i don't mean GNU Solfege wich is a decent software, I mean the actual solfege(Do-Re-Mi-Fa-So-La-Ti) This post has been edited by verciazghra: Aug 19 2013, 07:12 PM -------------------- "To achieve great things, two things are needed; a plan, and not quite enough time." -Leonard Bernstein
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Aug 20 2013, 11:38 AM |
I agree strongly with this course, it's marvellous. I generally train my ears by practicing solfege or doing drills from The Relative Pich supercourse. Sometimes I will use small software like Ear Master School or Tenuto to practice identifying modes and scales and chords. But for the basic stuff I do solfege and singing. This book has helped me a lot: http://www.amazon.com/Jazz-Ears-Aural-Skil...s/dp/0793579406 Edit: By solfege i don't mean GNU Solfege wich is a decent software, I mean the actual solfege(Do-Re-Mi-Fa-So-La-Ti) When doing solfeges, have you tried singing arpeggios? I think they can establish a good connection between your ears and the sound of stacked intervals |
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Aug 20 2013, 02:34 PM |
Great topic Sam.
I'll add that for those of you that haven't actually done it - it's the first one that's the hardest and the most daunting. But after you accomplish your first honest transcription - the next one's easier (even if the solo/song is 'harder'). And it gets easier and easier the more you do. Also, don't attempt your first one with something ragingly difficult. Pick a solo that you actually know at least in your head and that you can sing. *Whenever I have trouble finding a melody on guitar I sing it and then transcribe from there. **You will learn more about music and guitar playing by transcribing (on the guitar and on to paper - by hand) one, simple 12 bar blues solo than you will playing through 100's of somebody else's TABs of anything. This post has been edited by klasaine: Aug 20 2013, 02:35 PM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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