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Sep 4 2007, 05:19 AM
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You really just need to learn the patterns once, then move them up or down to get any key you need. Don't think about the fret position, think about the notes relative to each other. Then you just need to use the root note to figure out the scale and you are away with only 5 boxes needing to be learnt!
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Sep 4 2007, 05:37 AM
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This is definitely the way to do it - if not, you will have to learn 12 x 5 boxes for Pentatonic, then another 12 x 5 for 5 Major, same for minor, instead of 5 for each. You just won't be able to progress until you get this down, or you will make a rod for your back. I know it seems hard, but practice, practice practice until you can move the patterns and improvise with them - its the only way!
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Sep 4 2007, 06:06 AM
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QUOTE (steve25 @ Sep 4 2007, 12:50 AM)  Seems a bit hectic i really don't know how i'm going to be able to do this i can't see how this can possibly work but i'll try. I can see myself going completely off the scale every single time, or playing something that isn't a pentatonic scale at all Practicing scales is great for teaching your fingers where to go - how much have you practiced the pentatonic? You should find you don't have to think about it after a while. In the scheme of things this isn't a big deal when you have practiced enough to get it down. I'm not belittling the trouble you are having at all, everyone has something that they can't pick up straight away, but this is the way that everyone else does it and it works, trust me! Maybe you should not practice a specific scale, but play a different one each time you practice. Concentrate on one box until you can move it up and down without thinking about it, but pick a different root note each time so that you have to concentrate on the pattern, not the number of frets you are from the nut. -------------------- Check out my Instructor profile
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Sep 4 2007, 06:23 AM
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No, you don;t need to learn the notes - just be able to figure them out. You just need to divorce any reference to the rest of the guitar from where you start your scale and see it in terms of the relationship between just the notes that you play ... I'm sorry of I can;t explain it better, but it really is simple to do when you have the trick of it. As I said earlier, forget all 5 boxes, just learn to play one of them all up and down the neck then add the others when you can do that.
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Sep 4 2007, 06:46 AM
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QUOTE (steve25 @ Sep 4 2007, 01:27 AM) So what you're saying is learn 1 box and learn to play that in all keys fluently. For example, play it up and down in A then be able to switch it to say E fluently without any problems then learn 2 and do the same? Then link those boxes together and play them together fluently with all the keys as well? Not necessarily at the same time, but be confident that you can pick any of the 12 keys and play that box. When you have done that you should have no reliance on the actual position on the neck, and hopefully learning the other boxes will become a lot easier as you will learn them relative to the first box. -------------------- Check out my Instructor profile
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Sep 4 2007, 06:59 AM
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Andrew gave you some good advices here m8! It's not that difficult. Once you know all the boxes (for example Pentatonic major/minor or major scales, or minor scales) all you have to do is to apply the box to a root note.
Improvisation is however a different pair of shoes. You can't go up and down a scale to improvise but still that's how we all started. i remember my lesson with teacher when he told me to improvise over 1 pentatonic box and i was just playing a scale up and down. Today it looks soooo funny but back than i couldn't do any better. When improvising you have to kinda sing your solo in your head. If you can't sing what you want to play - you won't be able to play it. And don't worry about loosing yourself in the scale. it will be gone with time.  Keep practicing!
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