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GMC Forum _ GEAR & PRODUCTION _ Ibanez Edge Iii Question

Posted by: Gwazi Apr 11 2009, 05:48 PM

Ok, so i have an RG4, and i need to replace the strings... i read the manual carefully and did everything it told me to, but still whenever i tighten the locking nut and move on to the next string, the last two i tuned go out of tune. it says i should tune/change strings one by one, but this is impossible since the locking nut has 3 pressure pads, 1 for each pair of strings, so i have to do it two by two. i'm finally fed up with it since i spent about 3 hours on it last night, and a couple today as well, it's pissing me off pretty bad, please, i need help.

Posted by: Gwazi Apr 11 2009, 06:43 PM

so you're saying i should tighten the locking nut after i have done all the tuning and restringing? the thing is is that i followed the manual precisely, and it tells me to tighten the nut after tuning that string. it still goes out of tune when i tune it whether or not the nut is tightened.

KORG TM-40, plugged in

Posted by: berko Apr 11 2009, 07:10 PM

If I understood you correctly what you are doing is:

1. remove a string (or a pair of neighboring strings)
2. put on the new one(s) and tune it/them
3. lock it/them at the nut
4. you move on to the next strings

It will make no difference if you lock the strings because the tension of the springs will vary later on. if you take off the next pair of strings, all the tension will start to pull the four remaining strings that are still left on the guitar. Eventually, all of the four remaining strings will get tuned up! This happens because of the floating trem.

The manual is correct that you should change strings one by one. It is also true that tuning the new strings will have the effect that no extra tension gets forced onto other strings. Locking the strings at an early stage will help prevent the strings from slipping out of the tuning pegs etc. But eventually you'll have to unlock all strings to tune them again and again, and only after you stretched them well will it be appropriate to lock the strings at the nut. You can then fine tune all strings.

Posted by: Hyunkell Apr 12 2009, 08:33 PM

I had to do it once so far on my RG series Ibanez.
The manual wasn't really of great help, quite a nightmare to change the strings for the first time really, until I figured it out (or at least a way how to do it).

First I removed all 3 locking nuts.
Then I replaced one string after another, and tuned each string immediately after replacing it, also reset the finetuners while I was at it, since some were running out of room.
I then waited till next day so the strings could stretch a bit.
Tuned the guitar again in the morning, took me ~45ish minutes.
Played a bit, checked tuning again, and only then installed the locking nuts again.
You should only need the fine tuners until you need to replace the strings again.

The edge iii is nice I guess, but it overcomplicates things for a beginner such as myself.
I bought my guitar in used condition, since I was only starting out and needed a guitar of my own.
It sounded nice, and felt quite comfortable at the time, and since I got a good deal on it I took it.
Thinking back it would have probably been a better idea to buy another guitar, but I didn't have the knowledge at the time.

It's fine now though, that I got used to it, and I really like my RG.
I really need to get a second one though, without a floating tremolo, changing the tuning on the RG takes forever biggrin.gif

Posted by: kjutte Apr 12 2009, 11:07 PM

QUOTE (Gwazi @ Apr 11 2009, 07:43 PM) *
so you're saying i should tighten the locking nut after i have done all the tuning and restringing? the thing is is that i followed the manual precisely, and it tells me to tighten the nut after tuning that string. it still goes out of tune when i tune it whether or not the nut is tightened.

KORG TM-40, plugged in


Tune up, close as you get, then balance springs. Essential.

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