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May 3 2016, 08:30 PM
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Hello folks,
On one of my guitars, (PRS SE Ace) the G string on the 16th fret dies out much quicker than anywhere else, it seems to be holding the note and then it suddenly decays. Is this a job for a tech or is there something I can try? Cheers -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE  “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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May 4 2016, 02:30 AM
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I'm with Todd - could be a fret that needs filing/re-crowning
Best to have it looked at to be sure 
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May 4 2016, 08:45 AM
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Thanks folks,
It's only that string at that fret, until my ears improve a bit more and I notice something else lol 
-------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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May 4 2016, 09:14 PM
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It's going to the luthier on Friday
-------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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May 4 2016, 09:22 PM
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 while you're at it, inspect other guitars too incase they need anything
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May 4 2016, 09:31 PM
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I'll do them one at a time thanks mate
 My acoustic was set up recently by this guy and it is like a brand new guitar costing 5 times the price He's worked on a couple of my guitars and transformed them Here is the sound of the G at 14th and 16th frets. The 16th is played twice. It does sound like the string is ever so slightly catching on a fret. https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/sustain-issue -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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May 6 2016, 08:05 PM
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Took it to the guitar tech today, there are a couple of frets slightly higher than the others.
He's going to sort it for me -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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May 6 2016, 08:54 PM
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Cool!
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May 10 2016, 08:33 PM
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Eeeeek, guitar tech has had a look at guitar today, he said it gave him OCD. I asked him why and his message was.
"Ocd because it isn't just the 16th fret. It's that note (  . The harmonic on the 12th fret b string also fall out too quick. The b on the high e string does the same and also the lower b on the g string 4th fret also does the same. Nothing to do with the frets or string".Weird, just my luck to get a freaky problem  -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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May 10 2016, 08:54 PM
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Funny how it's the B. He said he is going to level the frets anyway. I asked him if it is fixable and he said "Everything is fixable
 " The trem is a PRS trem.
-------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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May 20 2016, 09:08 PM
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Fetched my guitar back today, it has drove the luthier crazy and he cannot fix it. The B on the G string 16th fret is the worst, but every B sustains less than any other note. In the shop today we timed an A and it rang out for 14 seconds through a clean amp, the best B we got was 7 seconds.
He has dressed the frets, he changed the G string, he changed all the strings, he raised the G string well off the frets, he lowered the pickups, he tightened all the screws, he de-tuned the guitar so that the 16th fret G string played an A, it sustained lovely, 18th fret ( , it lasted 6 seconds. he checked the trem springs for being seated correctly, he checked the trem for being properly set up, he turned the volum and tone knobs all one way, he turned them all the other way, he checked the tuning posts, he did everything he could think of, every B on the guitar doesn't sustain. He said that occasionally they do sustain a bit more, some of them are almost what would be considered acceptable, the 16th fret one is not acceptable. Even a B played as a harmonic doesn't last as long as other notes. The B on the 16th fret also sounds lifeless, like a very old string.He told me to contact PRS Europe and give them his number to call so that he can explain everything he has tried. Very odd. -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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May 20 2016, 09:20 PM
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I guess it would be asking too much to go to the luthier again to try this; http://s7.photobucket.com/user/Caughtlikef...Bridge.jpg.html
But incase PRS europe won't help try it as a last resort, you won't be able to use the trem. bar anymore but this should help a little if not solve the problem. This post has been edited by Mertay: May 20 2016, 09:20 PM |
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May 20 2016, 09:29 PM
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We spoke about that this evening. He is positive it isn't a trem issue. He would do it if I took it back but he really doesn't think it can be the trem. He didn't charge me for the work as he hadn't solved it but I gave him some money to cover the strings and get himself a curry and a pint.
We'll see what PRS say first. This post has been edited by Phil66: May 20 2016, 09:29 PM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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May 20 2016, 10:06 PM
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He's a top bloke, owns a little guitar shop and his mission is not to make loads of money but to get people playing the guitar. He has the skills to make good money but his heart rules and overcomes his business head. 100% good human being.
-------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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