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Posted by: Kristofer Dahl May 15 2010, 10:00 PM

Hey guys - finally I have the pleasure to present new material!



This one was a lot of fun to do and I am currently very inspired to write more instrumental material.

Recoding wise I did a lot of stuff differently with this tune. I kept it very simple with a minimum amount of overdubs. I ended up with only five tracks + drums, compare that to my usual 50-60 tracks! As a substitute for lots of panned dubs (etc) I worked more with delays/chorus/pitch shifting etc.

This method of working saved me a lot of time, since I am quite slow at nailing tight rhythm guitars and mixing a song, and in my opinion this gave a more dynamic/real sounding mix. On the negative side the mix is is a little thinner - but I find that ok for this kind of guitar tune.

I have also sold off some of my old gear (including my beloved working horse amp Peavey XXX) and bought a Mark V combo and a line6 M13 pedal.

Thanks to the M13 (and more specifically its' tube compressor imitation) I rely on a real bass for the first time - I have never got decent real bass to sound good before - but this time I got something which I thought worked. It was a lot of fun to play bass! =)

The Mark V is a chapter on its' own (I am sure Rokchik will agree) and for those interested I can do more demos of it. For this tune I used the Mark I channel for all guitars.

I have also rediscovered my Parker guitar which I now find gives a very uncolored/natural guitar sound - as opposed to my strat which ads a lot of midrange and compression to the tone. I think part of the reason I am hearing this now is because of my new amp! Either way I recorded all guitars with the parker which I haven't used for recordings for a long time.

As usual I am grateful for any questions/comments you have - and you can expect a more extensive coverage of this tune in lessons to come!

Guitaring rocks!! tongue.gif

Posted by: Wabba May 15 2010, 10:22 PM

Very cool song, and i like the video too tongue.gif

And yeah, line6 M13 rules! smile.gif

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl May 15 2010, 10:29 PM

QUOTE (Wabba @ May 15 2010, 11:22 PM) *
Very cool song, and i like the video too tongue.gif

And yeah, line6 M13 rules! smile.gif


Thanks Wabba - glad you liked the video as well, I wanted to try something new!

Posted by: The Uncreator May 15 2010, 10:44 PM

I think your new approach to recording and mixing is paying off, The mix may be thinner but I think your tone and the song itself beef it up, Riffs are wicked, So as always, great job!

Posted by: Adrian Figallo May 15 2010, 10:51 PM

i like it very much kris, love your playing presence too, you look great playing!

Posted by: audiopaal May 15 2010, 11:00 PM

Very nice Kris!!!
Thanks for sharing biggrin.gif

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl May 15 2010, 11:19 PM

QUOTE (Adrian Figallo @ May 15 2010, 11:51 PM) *
i like it very much kris, love your playing presence too, you look great playing!


Hehe thanks Adrian - I tried to think about that when recording the video (you do a great job yourself!). I have to say I find it to be a pain because if I try to look cool I immediately start to play really bad and sloppy - but I know it will eventually come naturally.

QUOTE (The Uncreator @ May 15 2010, 11:44 PM) *
I think your new approach to recording and mixing is paying off, The mix may be thinner but I think your tone and the song itself beef it up, Riffs are wicked, So as always, great job!


Thanks Brett - yes for this kind of tune I really don't try to think a lot about the average listener...this is good because it makes you "riff away" in a way you would never do when trying to write a more easily-digestible tune.

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl May 16 2010, 10:57 AM

QUOTE (audiopaal @ May 16 2010, 12:00 AM) *
Very nice Kris!!!
Thanks for sharing biggrin.gif


Thanks Paal your feedback is always appreciated - let me know if you got any thoughts about the master/mix this time!

Posted by: MickeM May 16 2010, 11:18 AM

Was just about to comment yesterday when my computer crashed... bad omen!!! laugh.gif

I liked the tone a lot. I'm not so much for instrumental music though unsure.gif I think it's a good idea to keep it simple not overdoing the production, to my ears such a production sounds better where bands skip all the bells and whistles in the extra 50 tracks.

Congratulations on the new toys biggrin.gif

Posted by: Kristian Hyvarinen May 16 2010, 12:14 PM

Absolutely wicked!! biggrin.gif Once again, I've got to grab my guitar because of you, Kris!

Posted by: zen May 16 2010, 12:25 PM

Great sound and catchy licks mate.. Very well done . Call me old fashioned but I loved the chuga chuga riff starting at 0:21 .. Simple yet so effective smile.gif
They add a great punch to the song ..
Post more smile.gif

Posted by: jstcrsn May 16 2010, 01:56 PM

Be careful GMCers inside this strobe i beleieve Kris has hidden subliminal messages
I haven't figured them out yet, but Kris
We are on to you

Posted by: Keilnoth May 16 2010, 02:37 PM

Hey Kris, very nice work here. I especially like at 1:14 when you play those groovy licks and then start again. smile.gif

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl May 16 2010, 03:59 PM

QUOTE (jstcrsn @ May 16 2010, 02:56 PM) *
Be careful GMCers inside this strobe i beleieve Kris has hidden subliminal messages
I haven't figured them out yet, but Kris
We are on to you


Oh no I better hide then! tongue.gif

QUOTE (zen @ May 16 2010, 01:25 PM) *
Great sound and catchy licks mate.. Very well done . Call me old fashioned but I loved the chuga chuga riff starting at 0:21 .. Simple yet so effective smile.gif
They add a great punch to the song ..
Post more smile.gif


Thanks - we're two then, old fashioned stuff can be very cool. Chuga chuga is also a lot of fun to play! laugh.gif

Posted by: Adrian Figallo May 16 2010, 04:58 PM

QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ May 15 2010, 05:19 PM) *
Hehe thanks Adrian - I tried to think about that when recording the video (you do a great job yourself!). I have to say I find it to be a pain because if I try to look cool I immediately start to play really bad and sloppy - but I know it will eventually come naturally.


That's the only problem biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
you are looking super cool but at the same time you are completely out of key biggrin.gif

Posted by: Fran May 16 2010, 05:14 PM

It has great riffing and catchy licks that stick in your head, I'd say this one is among your best Kris!

Oh, and congrats on the Mark V & M13, cool "toys" indeed cool.gif

Posted by: Adrian Figallo May 16 2010, 07:41 PM

hey kris, thinking on that line6, is it a good buy? need some to carry to the gigs, and i don't feel like putting a pedalboard together at this moment.

i think i could use my cry baby - > line 6 -> some good overdrive pedal on the loop -> amp return

can i put the overdrive after the compressor but before the modulation effects?

Posted by: alvaroshredd May 16 2010, 09:22 PM

The first riff you played is amazing man kind of slayer dark sound love your song good luck with it!

Posted by: Kristian Hyvarinen May 16 2010, 09:32 PM

The swingy shred licks are awesome, but the people has voted: We want more chuga chuga! biggrin.gif

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl May 16 2010, 09:49 PM

QUOTE (Adrian Figallo @ May 16 2010, 08:41 PM) *
hey kris, thinking on that line6, is it a good buy? need some to carry to the gigs, and i don't feel like putting a pedalboard together at this moment.

i think i could use my cry baby - > line 6 -> some good overdrive pedal on the loop -> amp return

can i put the overdrive after the compressor but before the modulation effects?


Yes it can definitely be done - it's extremely versatile, you can put the effect loop wherever you want, the effects in whichever order you want + you can create 12 different scenes to change it all at the touch of a button.

You can also use an expression pedal with the M13 but I don't know how it compares to a crybaby.

Using an external overdrive pedal sounds like a great idea - I think the overdrives/distortions are the weakest part of the pedal.

I currently use a tube screamer first in the chain (before the M13) - what are the advantages of having it in the loop? I know a lot of people do that.

QUOTE (alvaroshredd @ May 16 2010, 10:22 PM) *
The first riff you played is amazing man kind of slayer dark sound love your song good luck with it!


Thanks Alvaro - I am very proud I inspired your first post on the forum, I hope there will be more of them! biggrin.gif

QUOTE (Kristian Hyvarinen @ May 16 2010, 10:32 PM) *
The swingy shred licks are awesome, but the people has voted: We want more chuga chuga! biggrin.gif

Hehe well then there is no turning back for me!

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic May 17 2010, 12:23 AM

This is awesome material, great song, and great mix, sound beefy and punchy! smile.gif

Explanations rule! smile.gif

Posted by: Adrian Figallo May 17 2010, 12:41 AM

QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ May 16 2010, 03:49 PM) *
Using an external overdrive pedal sounds like a great idea - I think the overdrives/distortions are the weakest part of the pedal.

I currently use a tube screamer first in the chain (before the M13) - what are the advantages of having it in the loop? I know a lot of people do that.


Sounds like a great idea, bye bye old pedalboards biggrin.gif, i knew it, the overdrives are NEVER good on multifx, i will try to put some kind of tube overdrive, or i got a marshall jackhammer somewhere in the studio.

The advantages of having it on the loop?... well i think, first you don't have to worry to clip the input of the multifx, you can put the overdrive whenver you want, after the compressor and wah, that's very important, you can even experiment and put it and the end of the sidechain maybe, maybe you can even put two instances of the same pedal on the chain smile.gif

thanks for the tips, would be a amazing to have a video review of your amp and the fx working on a controlled well mic'd environment!

Posted by: Ramiro Delforte May 17 2010, 04:51 AM

Great stuff Kris!

Posted by: Lian Gerbino May 17 2010, 02:39 PM


very nice tune and lesson Kris! I missed your voice a bit tho smile.gif
I liked a lot the melodic feeling behind the shred.
if you are boring, doesn't matter how fast you can play, or how difficult you play.
this is not the case, you keep a strong melodic feeling through the song, and put a lot of cool chops there wink.gif


QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ May 15 2010, 07:19 PM) *
Hehe thanks Adrian - I tried to think about that when recording the video (you do a great job yourself!). I have to say I find it to be a pain because if I try to look cool I immediately start to play really bad and sloppy - but I know it will eventually come naturally.


hahaha, that's so normal! I bet there's no body who plays perfect and also got a killer presence.
well.. now I'm thinking... may VAI be an exception! LOL

Posted by: ItsMe May 17 2010, 03:41 PM

great vid, great playing, cool guy

as usual smile.gif

Posted by: Adrian Figallo May 17 2010, 05:45 PM

QUOTE (Lian Gerbino @ May 17 2010, 08:39 AM) *
hahaha, that's so normal! I bet there's no body who plays perfect and also got a killer presence.
well.. now I'm thinking... may VAI be an exception! LOL


Because he's not human smile.gif, or maybe he have to brains or something like that!
(i'm not even a harcore fan)

Posted by: Gitarrero May 17 2010, 07:53 PM

Cool, it's really catchy, love it!

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl May 25 2010, 08:30 AM

Wow so many awesome comments I have missed this thread - thanks guys! =D

QUOTE (Adrian Figallo @ May 17 2010, 01:41 AM) *
The advantages of having it on the loop?... well i think, first you don't have to worry to clip the input of the multifx, you can put the overdrive whenver you want, after the compressor and wah, that's very important, you can even experiment and put it and the end of the sidechain maybe, maybe you can even put two instances of the same pedal on the chain smile.gif


Ah I see - I primarily use my tubescreamer to boost the input so I'll probably keep it there!

QUOTE (Lian Gerbino @ May 17 2010, 03:39 PM) *
very nice tune and lesson Kris! I missed your voice a bit tho smile.gif
I liked a lot the melodic feeling behind the shred.
if you are boring, doesn't matter how fast you can play, or how difficult you play.
this is not the case, you keep a strong melodic feeling through the song, and put a lot of cool chops there wink.gif


Thanks a lot Lian. With my current situation I have had to choose whether to practice guitar or vocals - so the little vocal chops I had are currently gone. However I would like my next guitar project to be a tune built the same way I would do it for vocals - but instead use a guitar, I am excited how it will turn out!

QUOTE (Lian Gerbino @ May 17 2010, 03:39 PM) *
hahaha, that's so normal! I bet there's no body who plays perfect and also got a killer presence.
well.. now I'm thinking... may VAI be an exception! LOL


Yes exactly - Vai definitely springs to mind.

QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ May 17 2010, 01:23 AM) *
This is awesome material, great song, and great mix, sound beefy and punchy! smile.gif

Explanations rule! smile.gif


Thanks a lot Ivan! My intention is to prepare more explanations for Red SHot.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 26 2010, 08:41 AM

Amazing piece of music and great playing Kris (Your vibrato gets better and better smile.gif ). This sounds very fresh for me. It's really cool to hear some instrumental music from you. I love the tone of your new amp.
keep this great stuff coming!

Posted by: Sergio Dorado May 26 2010, 08:50 AM

Just I´ve seen the video. This is really great, Kris. Awesome picking, bluesy phrases... And you´ve organised the parts very well. wink.gif

Posted by: Zsolt Galambos May 26 2010, 09:52 AM

Killer tune and even better explanation smile.gif Great lesson, Kris!

Posted by: maharzan May 27 2010, 04:08 AM

Wow This is cool Kris. I can feel some satch touch here and there and he is my guitar god. smile.gif

and your playing has improved heavily I believe. Looks very professional now. smile.gif

maybe its the glass ? wink.gif

Posted by: Todd Simpson May 27 2010, 07:51 AM

Great stuff! A killer instrumental track that breaks down in to a killer lesson. Great sound on all the tracks too! More Please smile.gif

Todd

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Jun 1 2010, 07:58 AM

QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ May 27 2010, 08:51 AM) *
Great stuff! A killer instrumental track that breaks down in to a killer lesson. Great sound on all the tracks too! More Please smile.gif

Todd


Hehe thanks Todd - be sure to check out the instructor collab we are doing with this tune!

QUOTE (maharzan @ May 27 2010, 05:08 AM) *
Wow This is cool Kris. I can feel some satch touch here and there and he is my guitar god. smile.gif

and your playing has improved heavily I believe. Looks very professional now. smile.gif

maybe its the glass ? wink.gif


Hehe thanks Maharzan - I try to improve as much as I possibly can!

QUOTE (Zsolt Galambos @ May 26 2010, 10:52 AM) *
Killer tune and even better explanation smile.gif Great lesson, Kris!


Thansk Zsolt! biggrin.gif By the way I deep dived into Wisdom stuff last weekend - you have done so many cool things!

QUOTE (Sergio Dorado @ May 26 2010, 09:50 AM) *
Just I´ve seen the video. This is really great, Kris. Awesome picking, bluesy phrases... And you´ve organised the parts very well. wink.gif


Awesome Sergio, thanks! Not sure why but this tune makes me think of you - maybe it' sbecause I have seen similar groovy licks in your playing.

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ May 26 2010, 09:41 AM) *
Amazing piece of music and great playing Kris (Your vibrato gets better and better smile.gif ). This sounds very fresh for me. It's really cool to hear some instrumental music from you. I love the tone of your new amp.
keep this great stuff coming!


Thanks for the awesome words - great to hear about the vibrato from you (you have got a very stabile vibrato). I am not 100% confident with it yet so that's why I am spending some time with it.

Posted by: steve25 Nov 3 2010, 12:25 PM

Very good track Kris very pro sounding. Keep up the good work smile.gif

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Nov 3 2010, 05:15 PM

QUOTE (steve25 @ Nov 3 2010, 12:25 PM) *
Very good track Kris very pro sounding. Keep up the good work smile.gif

Hehe thanks a lot Steve! =)

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