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GMC Forum _ Bands and Guitarists _ Paul Waggoner
Posted by: The Uncreator May 7 2008, 11:59 PM
One of my most loved musicians, this guy's sense of melody is simply unsurpassed, his riffs are monstrous, and his solos are just beautiful.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__5FTokSYkg
And here is the band he is in, Between The Buried And Me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WK18G9AwwDI&feature=related
Posted by: Danilo Capezzuto May 8 2008, 03:08 PM
Nice solo, good melodies, but can't stand this type of voice!
Posted by: OrganisedConfusion May 8 2008, 03:17 PM
I love Between the Buried and Me and he is a great guitarist for sure. So many great songs and I do like the vocals. The clean and Growled vocals he can do very well.
Posted by: The Uncreator May 8 2008, 03:57 PM
Yeah i love his voice as well, His screams/ growls are awesome, and his clean voice is amazing, especially in "Selkies: The Endless Obsession", "Backwards Marathon", and "Sun Of Nothing".
Posted by: OrganisedConfusion May 8 2008, 03:57 PM
Prequel to the Sequel has some of the best screams. And the really cheesy French style section. 
Posted by: MP87 May 8 2008, 04:27 PM
My favourite guitarist also. After their set a couple weeks ago I got my picture taken with him and got to chat for a bit. Great guitarist and very modest about his skill.
Posted by: Pablo Vazquez May 8 2008, 09:09 PM
Wow, cool! Thanks for sharing! 
Posted by: The Uncreator May 8 2008, 10:40 PM
Or the country/ "bar" section in "Ants Of The Sky"
Posted by: shellshock1911 May 9 2008, 04:00 AM
Meh, I definately respect BTAM as musicians on their respective instruments and think they play them pretty well, but I am turned off largely by their songwriting style of starting with a riff while screaming over it, pausing for 0.5, new riff, new screams, pause, new riff, new screams, pause, new riff, etc, etc, and then some occasional total stoppage and a jazz/country/polka whatever section. I tried to listen to Colors and just couldn't get through it. My favorite song by them is Foam Born A, The Decade of Statues after it ruins it though. It always seems like they are almost trying too hard to be a progressive band.
Posted by: The Uncreator May 9 2008, 09:49 PM
Check out the song "Selkies: The Endless Obsession", It doesnt start out with screams, starts out with a keyboard riff thats just awesome, and then and awesome guitar riff.
Either way, to each his own.
Posted by: VinceG May 10 2008, 01:28 AM
There pretty good. Way too unnoticed for the genre they set fort on. The best metalcore band for me, even though I only occasionally spin there albums.
Posted by: The Uncreator May 10 2008, 08:53 PM
I wouldnt call them Metalcore though, far too progressive and diverse. They just dont sound anything like it, to me at least.
Posted by: RIP Dime May 11 2008, 02:05 PM
Great band, they really play their asses off so I can deal with the statue like live show. 
I have Alaska and Colors and they are great albums, very catchy and interesting tunes. Everyone one of those guys are great at their instrument. I like the hardcore parts as well, I don't really dig the song or the screaming in that video tho, that's one of their older songs right?
Oh damn, this thread is about the guitar player, Yes, he is amazing technically and his note choice is excellent. I actually had given up on sweep picking till I heard him, I thought there was nowhere else to go creatively with the technique, because so many people now just use it as a flashy move rather than a melodic tool, I thought it had become almost a mockery of the instrument. He reminded me that sweeping can still be tasteful, creative, and very melodic and beautiful sounding. Great guitarist!
Posted by: The Uncreator May 11 2008, 02:21 PM
Yes, Thats why I love them so much, the ending solo to "White Walls" is just godly!
Posted by: steve25 May 11 2008, 02:38 PM
I really don't think this guy is anything special at all it reminds me a lot of stuff i've already heard of before. I've heard a lot of players so for me it's nothing new just sounds like a copy of someone else
Posted by: RIP Dime May 11 2008, 02:41 PM
Yes! Guitar hero(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teMzlqSSkNk&feature=related) caliber solo! The other guitarist is no slouch as well.
Posted by: OrganisedConfusion May 11 2008, 04:10 PM
Sounds like Dream Theater without the screams lol
I much prefer BTBAM.
Posted by: shellshock1911 May 11 2008, 05:43 PM
After listening to White Walls a couple times and Informal Gluttony I am gonna have to take back what I said, and say that SOME of their songs can get repetitive and annoying at times, but from about 7:00- to the end of White Walls, I really like that part and the solo is really cool.
Posted by: The Uncreator May 11 2008, 08:05 PM
Unfortunately we don't all hear the same things, To each his own
Posted by: shellshock1911 May 12 2008, 02:07 AM
I see where he is coming from, because if you listen to something like the last minute or so of Decade of Statues, if that is Dream Theater ripoff, I don't know what is, but he is still original in many aspects, mainly the harmonized soloing and dropped tunings without going all the way to a 7-string.
Posted by: The Uncreator May 12 2008, 03:29 AM
Just because it sounds like dream theater doesnt make it a ripoff.
Posted by: steve25 May 12 2008, 08:59 AM
Very true and i wasn't trying to say he's ripping off any bands guitarist or anything but for me it just doesn't sound anything new so i couldn't really call him great if he reminds me too much of other players. Now i wouldn't mind so much if i thought he sounded really good however i don't really like his style. I've been trying to find something fresh and new for a while for hopefully some new inspiration but so far i haven't found it and he's not it.
You can take inspiration from bands and stuff and why hide it? If he's inspired by Dream Theater it's going to be hard to hide it anyway but i don't think people should so i don't mind that really. But Dream Theater i must say weren't on my mind when i was listening to him anyway
Posted by: OrganisedConfusion May 12 2008, 11:21 AM
And Dream Theater rip off Watchtower. It is an endless cycle. Everybody is in theory ripping somebody off. Between The Buried and Me so their thing and do it well. They are a great band with great songs. Dream Theater may have inspired BTBAM. Watchtower inspired Dream Theater as Portnoy admitted. Dream Theater is just a mix of Rush, Watchtower and other prog bands.
I like BTBAM, Dream Theater, Rush, Watchtower etc but just because one band came first doesn't mean I treat them any different.
The rip off should be replaced with inspired. If it's a rip off then it is a total copy which it clearly isn't.
You can take inspiration from bands and stuff and why hide it? If he's inspired by Dream Theater it's going to be hard to hide it anyway but i don't think people should so i don't mind that really. But Dream Theater i must say weren't on my mind when i was listening to him anyway
In my opinion the best new guitarist even though he isn;t new anymore is Matt Bellamy. He truly is unique.
Posted by: shellshock1911 May 12 2008, 11:41 AM
My bad, I didn't mean to make it sound like that, but anyway, I need to take back the first post again because I have listened to the entire album now, and I will have to say, it is really awesome. What threw me off at first was Decade of Statues, because I go back and listen to it now, and still think every other song on the album is 100x better.
I don't know if the lead screamer guy does the clean vocals or not, but the clean vocals are really good, and I would like to see them showcased more.
I have been a Muse fan for a while now, and I enjoy Matt Belamy's SONGWRITING, but I still don't understand the hype behind his guitar-playing skills, if you look at a lot of his songs, the entire things are just 1-string riffs, or power/octave chords played at either 8th notes or 16th notes with maybe some phaser/flanger/wah or other effect added over them, I fail to see his originality, no offense. I think he is a way better and much more original singer than he is guitarist.
Posted by: OrganisedConfusion May 12 2008, 11:46 AM
I don't know if the lead screamer guy does the clean vocals or not, but the clean vocals are really good, and I would like to see them showcased more.
I have been a Muse fan for a while now, and I enjoy Matt Belamy's SONGWRITING, but I still don't understand the hype behind his guitar-playing skills, if you look at a lot of his songs, the entire things are just 1-string riffs, or power/octave chords played at either 8th notes or 16th notes with maybe some phaser/flanger/wah or other effect added over them, I fail to see his originality, no offense. I think he is a way better and much more original singer than he is guitarist.
He is an incredible singer and organ player. He is a pretty damn good guitarist I also think. All his riffs are awesome and he is pretty unique I still think with what he does even if it is simple.
Posted by: steve25 May 12 2008, 09:02 PM
Once again i'd have to greatly disagree, however that's just my opinion and i could rant all day
Posted by: The Uncreator May 12 2008, 10:59 PM
You can take inspiration from bands and stuff and why hide it? If he's inspired by Dream Theater it's going to be hard to hide it anyway but i don't think people should so i don't mind that really. But Dream Theater i must say weren't on my mind when i was listening to him anyway
Yeah, I can see where your coming from, Understandable
I don't know if the lead screamer guy does the clean vocals or not, but the clean vocals are really good, and I would like to see them showcased more.
Yeah he also does the clean vocals, which I really like....ALOT
.And concerning Decade Of Statues, well I quite like that song, I love every one on the album, But there is that song an album that just doesnt quite click with the rest sometimes, the overall album though, Im glad you like
Posted by: shellshock1911 May 12 2008, 11:33 PM
Yeah he also does the clean vocals, which I really like....ALOT
.And concerning Decade Of Statues, well I quite like that song, I love every one on the album, But there is that song an album that just doesnt quite click with the rest sometimes, the overall album though, Im glad you like
Yea, Ants Of The Sky was a really cool one, and I thought Dream Theater was random lol, when I heard the blues solo, then some other weird stuff, and then the western-style part, and then more screams, I was seriously like WTF is this, but in a good way.
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