Anders Breivik Gets 22 Years For Killing 69 Kids |
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Anders Breivik Gets 22 Years For Killing 69 Kids |
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Aug 28 2012, 04:39 AM |
I was a bit shocked to hear that the psycho nut job in Norlway that killed 69 kids on an island camping spot was sentenced to 22 years in jail. Thats about 100 days per murder.
THATS JUST CRAZY IHe would have gotten the chair or the needle for that crap in the states. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19365616 |
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Aug 28 2012, 09:21 AM |
Sorry, but how the hell did he kill 69 kids?
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Aug 28 2012, 09:30 AM |
I believe that 22 years is the maximum sentence in Norway and so under there legal system just.
In England there have been far too many cases of wrongful conviction and because of this I don't agree with a death penalty. Just three examples (there are plenty of others): In 1975 the 'Birmingham 6' were sentenced to life imprisonment for the Birmingham pub bombing where 21 people died and nearly 200were injured. At the time the English tabloid press wanted the men to receive the death penalty. Nearly 20 years later in 1991 they were released after an appeal, which stated that the men had been wrongfully convicted based on false evidence and police perjury. There are other cases like the Guildford 4 and the Maguire 7 - all of whom were also wrongfully convicted and many years later were exonerated and, with the exception of Pat Conlon who had died in prison, released. With the Guildford 4 - they were tried and convicted of murder, which no longer has a death penalty. The judge at the time said he regretted that they had not been charged with treason as he could then have handed out death sentences (which confuses justice with retribution and treason with murder). So 17 innocent men served 20 or so years each for a crime they did not commit. One died in prison. If the UK had a death penalty all 17 would quite likely have been sentenced to death. -------------------- Get your music professionally mastered by anl AES registered Mastering Engineer. Contact me for Audio Mastering Services and Advice and visit our website www.miromastering.com
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Aug 28 2012, 09:43 AM |
... it's just like the subject of revenge, retribution, whatever word you use.. it's the first thing you want and seems the logical thing to want. Annoyingly, it doesn't make it the right thing to do. That's our test. Absolutely agree Ben. If I remember correctly when Breivik was arrested there was an internview with a leader of the Norwegian Labour Youth movement. He was asked if Breivik should be given a death sentence and he said no. He said that the case would demonstrate that Norway is a civilised, modern society that believes in justice and not retribution. -------------------- Get your music professionally mastered by anl AES registered Mastering Engineer. Contact me for Audio Mastering Services and Advice and visit our website www.miromastering.com
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Aug 28 2012, 02:07 PM |
Sickening.
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Aug 28 2012, 02:10 PM |
He deserves jail for all his life...
He deserves jail for all his life... edit: this appeared twice by error but I will keep it double. :/ This post has been edited by Gabriel Leopardi: Aug 28 2012, 02:21 PM -------------------- My lessons
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Aug 29 2012, 01:58 AM |
I was a bit shocked to hear that the psycho nut job in Norlway that killed 69 kids on an island camping spot was sentenced to 22 years in jail. Thats about 100 days per murder. THATS JUST CRAZY IHe would have gotten the chair or the needle for that crap in the states. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19365616 I don't know man ,22 years doesn't really sound like justice to me, then again hanging is probably too good for him. Maybe he could be put into a situation where he is the prey instead of the predator, and his odds of survival the same as those kids he gunned down as if they were vermin. |
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Aug 29 2012, 03:43 AM |
Yeah! I have seen it.... Also saw his prison and cell where he will be staying! Looks like a hotel! It is crazy!
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Aug 29 2012, 10:58 AM |
... Well this isn't a wrongful conviction case by any stretch right? he admitted his guilt. So honestly, he deserves the chair put on slow burn IMHO. It was a generalisation as to why I don't agree with the death penalty. I'd agree with Sollesnes as well that in modern European society the judicial system is supposed to be about rehabilitation rather than retribution. Retribution would also make a martyr of him to those who agree with his ideology. That is almost certainly behind his wanting to be found guilty rather than insane as the latter undermines his desire to be a 'hero'. We also need to try to understand what causes his ideology, both speicifically for him as an individual and more generally in society, and to then challenge and change it. Heal the cause rather than react to the symptom. Whether or not he can be rehabiliitated - hopefully he can. I know someone who used to be a violent neo-nazi and who was jailed for racist violence. He changed his views and ideologiy whilst inside. On one occassion before he went to jail he and a few of his neo-nazi friends attacked me and a few of my friends. One of my friends was blinded in one eye during the attack. My friend has forgiven the guy and says he's rehabilitated, so there is hope. -------------------- Get your music professionally mastered by anl AES registered Mastering Engineer. Contact me for Audio Mastering Services and Advice and visit our website www.miromastering.com
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