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VinceG View Member Profile	Oct 14 2008, 12:20 AM
Oct 14 2008, 12:20 AM	GMC:er Posts: 1.891 Joined: 7-December 06	I know we have quite an Opeth fan boys/girls here in GMC so I'd like to bring up this question. Is Opeth considered Death Metal? I contemplate this because of the fact that except for Mikael's vocal work being in a death growl, nothing in the band has the sound of Death Metal. Its like Children of Bodom for instance. There not Death Metal, yet people lump them to a genre of DM just because of there vocal work. Surely these bands could be called Extreme Prog Bands (Opeth) or Extreme Power Metal (CoB), but not Death Metal... not to me anyway. I know by 95, Death Metal sure had a stable sound even though its been mixed with different genres, it still retained the essence of what Death Metal constitutes. If you do see them as Death Metal, then explain to me how so because I fail to see them as a Death Metal band. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- METAL SUCKS My Last.fm account. View it for all the terrible music I play on a daily basis

Guitarman700 View Member Profile	Oct 14 2008, 02:41 AM
Oct 14 2008, 02:41 AM	GMC:er Posts: 1.462 Joined: 20-April 07 From: Traverse City, Michigan, USA	Hmm. Well, i read a recent interview with Mikeal, where he said he doesnt consider Opeth Death Metal, he considers them progressive metal, and i agree with him, they may have death growls, but so does "deathcore" and thats not death metal! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Gear: Guitars: Fender Standard Stratocaster HSS Jackson Dinky Custom Washburn WG-587 7-String LTD EX-50 Kramer Focus 6000 Amps: Peavey Vypyr 30 Marshall MG10KK Kerry King 10 Watt

opeth.db View Member Profile	Oct 14 2008, 02:52 AM
Oct 14 2008, 02:52 AM	Learning Apprentice Player Posts: 1.156 Joined: 11-September 08 From: Cleveland, Ohio	What guitarman said^^. Opeth rules. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Gear Ibanez RG570 Silver Jackson Ofset V Randy Rhodes Signature Mitchell Acoustic Custom Ibanez S series (Currently working on) X2 XDS95 Digital Wireless system Line 6 MKII 8 Channel USB Roland Mixer My Site www.shredwork.com Learn how to count. It's what separates the hack and the pros IMHO. -LCSDDS

jer View Member Profile	Oct 14 2008, 04:08 AM
Oct 14 2008, 04:08 AM	GMC:er Posts: 1.889 Joined: 3-September 08 From: Des Moines IA USA	Opeth = Awesome. They cannot be labeled. They are like no other band out there. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Gear Jackson SL-1 USA Soloist Jackson DK2M ESP LTD MH-400 ESP LTD EC-1000 Ibanez Custom S-Series Martin 001 Acoustic Handmade Marshall JCM800 50watt head (with mods) Carvin 50x2 Stereo Tube Amp Boss GT-10 Preamp/Effects Processor Digitech GSP-1101 Preamp/Effects Processor Behringer FCB1010 Midi Controlled Floorboard Behringer Dualfex EX2200 Behinger Stereo EQ Line 6 POD with 2.3 upgrade Line 6 Floor Board Line 6 Spider III Practice Amp Nady UHF Wireless *"Who will eat the decay, when the worms have lost their sight?"*

VinceG View Member Profile	Oct 14 2008, 04:17 AM
Oct 14 2008, 04:17 AM	GMC:er Posts: 1.891 Joined: 7-December 06	Actually, Opeth is pretty straightforward when it comes to the music. Seriously, they've been doing the same element for more than a decade. There music is not that complicated at all. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- METAL SUCKS My Last.fm account. View it for all the terrible music I play on a daily basis

jer View Member Profile	Oct 14 2008, 04:21 AM
Oct 14 2008, 04:21 AM	GMC:er Posts: 1.889 Joined: 3-September 08 From: Des Moines IA USA	QUOTE (VinceG @ Oct 13 2008, 10:17 PM) Actually, Opeth is pretty straightforward when it comes to the music. Seriously, they've been doing the same element for more than a decade. There music is not that complicated at all. Does it need to be? You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Gear Jackson SL-1 USA Soloist Jackson DK2M ESP LTD MH-400 ESP LTD EC-1000 Ibanez Custom S-Series Martin 001 Acoustic Handmade Marshall JCM800 50watt head (with mods) Carvin 50x2 Stereo Tube Amp Boss GT-10 Preamp/Effects Processor Digitech GSP-1101 Preamp/Effects Processor Behringer FCB1010 Midi Controlled Floorboard Behringer Dualfex EX2200 Behinger Stereo EQ Line 6 POD with 2.3 upgrade Line 6 Floor Board Line 6 Spider III Practice Amp Nady UHF Wireless *"Who will eat the decay, when the worms have lost their sight?"*

VinceG View Member Profile	Oct 14 2008, 04:36 AM
Oct 14 2008, 04:36 AM	GMC:er Posts: 1.891 Joined: 7-December 06	Not really. The whole Opeth cannot be labeled is really a big lame joke. I like Opeth and all, but I hate the fact that I can pin point where they would play acoustic in the middle of there heavy songs. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- METAL SUCKS My Last.fm account. View it for all the terrible music I play on a daily basis

jer View Member Profile	Oct 14 2008, 04:38 AM
Oct 14 2008, 04:38 AM	GMC:er Posts: 1.889 Joined: 3-September 08 From: Des Moines IA USA	Well sho wme a label they fit into. Cuz that means there are other bands I need to hear!!! Being predictable and being like other bands is two completely different things. I have yet to hear anyone like Opeth. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Gear Jackson SL-1 USA Soloist Jackson DK2M ESP LTD MH-400 ESP LTD EC-1000 Ibanez Custom S-Series Martin 001 Acoustic Handmade Marshall JCM800 50watt head (with mods) Carvin 50x2 Stereo Tube Amp Boss GT-10 Preamp/Effects Processor Digitech GSP-1101 Preamp/Effects Processor Behringer FCB1010 Midi Controlled Floorboard Behringer Dualfex EX2200 Behinger Stereo EQ Line 6 POD with 2.3 upgrade Line 6 Floor Board Line 6 Spider III Practice Amp Nady UHF Wireless *"Who will eat the decay, when the worms have lost their sight?"*

VinceG View Member Profile	Oct 14 2008, 04:57 AM
Oct 14 2008, 04:57 AM	GMC:er Posts: 1.891 Joined: 7-December 06	Extreme Prog seems to fit them right. No one really sounds like Opeth though. But that label seems to fit them right in a sense. Anyway, back to the topic, I think we all pretty much agree that there not Death Metal haha. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- METAL SUCKS My Last.fm account. View it for all the terrible music I play on a daily basis

Fullmetal_Tmd View Member Profile	Oct 14 2008, 05:08 AM
Oct 14 2008, 05:08 AM	GMC:er Posts: 173 Joined: 26-April 08 From: Kansas :/	Lol, they were Death Metal-ish early on, but they simply evolved beyond that. Opeth might not of been the typical "play fast, growl, blast-beat, solo, repeat" death metal band that plagued the scene for a while, they tried to develop their own signature sound. that way when you listened to them, you would know its OPETH, not just another band that sounds like Cannibal Corpse =/. Besides, its not like there's a textbook telling every band how to play a certain genre accordingly. If everybody conformed to the standards, we wouldn't have the diversity of today, would we? You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Click Here For Eternal Joy and Happiness

VinceG View Member Profile	Oct 14 2008, 05:54 AM
Oct 14 2008, 05:54 AM	GMC:er Posts: 1.891 Joined: 7-December 06	Standards are still a setting point on what you want your sound to be. If Death Metal didnt have a standard sound, then whats the point of calling it DM or BM or Doom. I do agree on the diversity we have today though, but if a band plays Death Metal, then they would draw major attention on what Death Metal sounds like and pulling there own sound from it, and making it there own. What Opeth did on the early days, yes I could see that, especially on Orchid, but the only thing that makes them still be considered as Death Metal is the vocal style. Not the buzz saw of riffs that slaughter or the drums that oozes of demonic possessions. Id hate to be one sided, but those are the standards of Death Metal, not just death growls. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- METAL SUCKS My Last.fm account. View it for all the terrible music I play on a daily basis

Ian Bushell View Member Profile	Oct 14 2008, 06:43 AM
Oct 14 2008, 06:43 AM	Instructor Posts: 958 Joined: 21-June 08 From: Johannesburg, South Africa	I haven't heard tons of Opeth's music but from what i've heard they're a really talented and tight band. I'd say they are way more than a death metal band:) You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Video Lessons Website

OrganisedConfusi... OrganisedConfusion View Member Profile	Oct 14 2008, 09:11 AM
Oct 14 2008, 09:11 AM	GMC:er Posts: 5.635 Joined: 29-November 07 From: Nottingham, UK	They aren't good enough to be classed as a death metal band. And they certainly don't sound like one. Very early stuff is a bit of death metal but now they are just copying everybody else with the blend of acoustic and electric. Mercyful Fate did it years ago and it isn't anything new. Don't get me wrong I do like the first 4 Opeth albums but now they are one of the worst bands around in my opinion. That Stephen Wilson is to blame and he annoys the hell out of me. Everything he touches turns to rubbish. Way too soft and girly now. They are as soft as the Spice Girls. My gran's local bingo hall is more death metal than Opeth You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Gear Guitars:- Caparison Horus Snowcloud, Parker Nitefly M, Parker Nitefly SA, Gibson SG, Parker P10e, 40 Year Old Spanish Acoustic Amps:- Framus Ruby Riot 2x12" stack

Marcus Siepen View Member Profile	Oct 14 2008, 11:15 AM
Oct 14 2008, 11:15 AM	Instructor (Blind Guardian) Posts: 3.433 Joined: 5-March 08 From: Germany	QUOTE (jer @ Oct 14 2008, 05:08 AM) Opeth = Awesome. They cannot be labeled. They are like no other band out there. +1 Who cares if you call them progressive death jazz or whatever, they are great, thats what matters, not the label that you put on them. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Guitars: various Gibson Les Pauls / Gibson J 45 Amps: Mesa Boogie Tripple Rectifier / Triaxis / 2:90 Poweramp / Rectocabs Effects: Rocktron Intellifex / Rocktron Xpression Homepage: www.marcussiepen.com www.blind-guardian.com Check out my video lessons!

Fsgdjv View Member Profile	Oct 14 2008, 11:38 AM
Oct 14 2008, 11:38 AM	GMC:er Posts: 1.255 Joined: 12-April 07	OrganizedConfusion: So you mean that a band has to be good for you to call them death metal? That sounds weird, but now I know that I'll have to ask you if you approve of a band before labeling them as death. And about the topic: No, they are not death metal, in the same way as they are not progressive rock, not singer singwriter and nothing else. If you deny that they have some riffs here and there that would fit in a death metal song then you're just ingorant. (Come on, some riffs sound like they are stolen from Trey Azagthoth's head, not many but there are some), but I would definetly not classify them as Death Metal, but comparing it to COD is just stupid, Opeth have deathgrowls, COB doesn't even have that, so labeling them Death Metal is even more stupid. And I consider Orchid and Morningrise to be even less death metal than the later releases, since there are one or two riffs that would fit in a death metal songs in the later records, but the first two are just undefinable, awesome, but not like anything else. I see more similarities in the mood to some black metal-bands than I see to some death bands in the first records. But as an aswer, no, they aren't death metal, but I do see how someone I doesn't listen to DM could mix it up. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Practice Agenda

OrganisedConfusi... OrganisedConfusion View Member Profile	Oct 14 2008, 11:44 AM
Oct 14 2008, 11:44 AM	GMC:er Posts: 5.635 Joined: 29-November 07 From: Nottingham, UK	No I mean that I love Death Metal so if they really are Death Metal then they are a really poor band compared to other bands that I class as Death Metal. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Gear Guitars:- Caparison Horus Snowcloud, Parker Nitefly M, Parker Nitefly SA, Gibson SG, Parker P10e, 40 Year Old Spanish Acoustic Amps:- Framus Ruby Riot 2x12" stack

Ivan Milenkovic View Member Profile	Oct 14 2008, 01:42 PM
Oct 14 2008, 01:42 PM	Instructor Posts: 25.396 Joined: 20-November 07 From: Belgrade, Serbia	No need to form a discussion in what genre they belong, if you like the music, you listen it, it's that simple after all. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE - Check out my GMC Profile and Lessons - (Please subscribe to my) YouTube Official Channel - Let's be connected through ! Facebook! :)

jer View Member Profile	Oct 14 2008, 01:52 PM
Oct 14 2008, 01:52 PM	GMC:er Posts: 1.889 Joined: 3-September 08 From: Des Moines IA USA	Makes me think of the youtube classic "Ed's Guide To Metal" Check it out. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Gear Jackson SL-1 USA Soloist Jackson DK2M ESP LTD MH-400 ESP LTD EC-1000 Ibanez Custom S-Series Martin 001 Acoustic Handmade Marshall JCM800 50watt head (with mods) Carvin 50x2 Stereo Tube Amp Boss GT-10 Preamp/Effects Processor Digitech GSP-1101 Preamp/Effects Processor Behringer FCB1010 Midi Controlled Floorboard Behringer Dualfex EX2200 Behinger Stereo EQ Line 6 POD with 2.3 upgrade Line 6 Floor Board Line 6 Spider III Practice Amp Nady UHF Wireless *"Who will eat the decay, when the worms have lost their sight?"*

steiner666 View Member Profile	Oct 14 2008, 07:20 PM
Oct 14 2008, 07:20 PM	GMC:er Posts: 158 Joined: 20-March 08 From: Earth	I love Opeth. But, I'll admit, the first time i listened to them i wasn't too enthralled. The softer parts of the songs bored me and some (pretty much all of Damnation) put me to sleep. It wasn't like a "Wow! This is the best band I've ever heard!" sort of revelation. In fact, it took a while for me to get to the point where I'd even list them among my favorites, and, truth be told, I still skip past as many songs as I listen to on most of their albums. The incredible vocals and memorable guitar melodies/riffs are what I really love about Opeth's music. Not because they're the most technical and complex compositions from a musical standpoint, but just because they sound good and get stuck in your head. I will agree that some of the acoustic/clean electric parts are a bit predictable, and almost seem obligatory after a while, but sometimes the dynamic effect of it is powerful. As my preference leans towards different forms of death metal, I would very much like the next Opeth album to have more heavy songs than Watershed. But, as others have said, I don't want them to just start sounding like everyone else, with a set formula or pattern to their music. Opeth is Opeth, they're a gap-bridging sort of band. I'm very much a metalhead and I love them for their heaviness, while other people (like my mother for example) may like them for their softer parts. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- ESP LTD MH-400NT (EMG 81/85 set, D'Addario Skinny Top/Fat Bottom strings) Line 6 Toneport GX

opeth.db View Member Profile	Oct 14 2008, 07:50 PM
Oct 14 2008, 07:50 PM	Learning Apprentice Player Posts: 1.156 Joined: 11-September 08 From: Cleveland, Ohio	You make great points steiner. It took me a while to really appreciate them as well. Mikael is just a riff master when it comes to his band. Your right Opeth is Opeth. Thats why no one else is like them. True originals in their craft if you ask me. Its a good thing music is subjective to the listener. If I listen to what people has told me what was good or not I'd be listening to the new Metallica CD. lol And Don't get me started about Mike Patton. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by opeth.db: Oct 14 2008, 07:54 PM -------------------- My Gear Ibanez RG570 Silver Jackson Ofset V Randy Rhodes Signature Mitchell Acoustic Custom Ibanez S series (Currently working on) X2 XDS95 Digital Wireless system Line 6 MKII 8 Channel USB Roland Mixer My Site www.shredwork.com Learn how to count. It's what separates the hack and the pros IMHO. -LCSDDS

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