Marshall Jvm Series
ChrisVdS
Nov 2 2008, 02:08 PM
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I started saving for a nice amp that would be nice for the styles i like i'm looking in the 1000 - 1600 euros pricerange first i was looking at a Fender Supersonic but then i noticed this Marshall JVM 410H which seems to live up to my demands from what i see on youtube. Does anyone have any expirience with this amp??

I saw these videos which give some detailed explenation of the amp 100 watt full stack hell yeah laugh.gif
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=_XLl_ENHY2k&...feature=related

Gary Moore testing the 50 watt version i think but i just had to put up this link because it's so good i would have given a year of my life to have seen this live smile.gif
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Yeah, JVM seem like a great series, especially at 50W

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I tried the 50W version, sounded great smile.gif

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You might check out the JCM 2000 Dsl or Tsl. A nice used one would be about 1/2 the price of a JVM with all the tone. Just not as many features.

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QUOTE (tommyboy @ Nov 3 2008, 01:12 AM) *
You might check out the JCM 2000 Dsl or Tsl. A nice used one would be about 1/2 the price of a JVM with all the tone. Just not as many features.

tommyboy


I've got a TSL 100 that keeps blowing fuses. I'm sure a tube is bad. I'm trying to decide which tubes to put in it. The right tube choice can make a big difference. I'm doing some research now. What do you think? smile.gif

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QUOTE (FrankW @ Nov 2 2008, 07:19 PM) *
I've got a TSL 100 that keeps blowing fuses. I'm sure a tube is bad. I'm trying to decide which tubes to put in it. The right tube choice can make a big difference. I'm doing some research now. What do you think? smile.gif


Generally a fuse blowing is a tube. I get my tubes from http://www.eurotubes.com Check out the web site. If for no other reason for all of the information about tubes. Everything you'll ever want to know and more. Including How to bias videos and all kinds of great tech advice. Including how to find out which tube is going bad and causing your fuse to blow.

Check it out it's worth the time,
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QUOTE (tommyboy @ Nov 3 2008, 04:04 AM) *
Generally a fuse blowing is a tube. I get my tubes from http://www.eurotubes.com Check out the web site. If for no other reason for all of the information about tubes. Everything you'll ever want to know and more. Including How to bias videos and all kinds of great tech advice. Including how to find out which tube is going bad and causing your fuse to blow.

Check it out it's worth the time,
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I appreciate that. I'm going to call them and talk shop. I'm sure I'll be able to get good information regarding which tube is best for the sound I'm going for. Thanks again. smile.gif

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Nov 3 2008, 06:23 PM
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Love that amp. playing it every time I visit a music store. gonna buy the 410 head as soon as I get into a longer band project

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QUOTE (tommyboy @ Nov 3 2008, 01:12 AM) *
You might check out the JCM 2000 Dsl or Tsl. A nice used one would be about 1/2 the price of a JVM with all the tone. Just not as many features.

tommyboy


This is very true. All the tone is there, except not so many features. For me 3 channels is just about enough really.

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QUOTE (FrankW @ Nov 3 2008, 11:17 AM) *
I appreciate that. I'm going to call them and talk shop. I'm sure I'll be able to get good information regarding which tube is best for the sound I'm going for. Thanks again. smile.gif


No sweat! wink.gif Let me know what you find out or decide on. I'm thinking about giving the KT77's a shot instead on my normal EL34's in my JCM 2000. I bit more low end to play with. I like the sound of that!

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QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Nov 3 2008, 04:00 PM) *
This is very true. All the tone is there, except not so many features. For me 3 channels is just about enough really.


I agree, I'd much rather have a amp with one great channel than one with a hundred mediocre ones. That's why I play the DSL 50. Great soild Marshall tone, very easy to use.

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Nov 4 2008, 08:34 PM
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Your right tommyboy i found one for 800 euros JCM 2000 TSL 100 watts head is it also made in Britain like the JVM series ??

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Ivan Milenkovic
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With JVM it's all about features and flexibility but if you ask me, it has a bit too much knobs, and modes. It could be much simpler, MIDI programming as well.

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QUOTE (ChrisVdS @ Nov 4 2008, 01:34 PM) *
Your right tommyboy i found one for 800 euros JCM 2000 TSL 100 watts head is it also made in Britain like the JVM series ??


I'm not really sure how 800 euros compares to dollars. But sounds like it was about half. Personally I prefer the DSL's. I agree with Ivan as I think less is sometimes more on a amp. The one thing you'll find about Marshalls is they are very eq friendly on the fly. I can be playing and go back and tweak my settings without any trouble. The controls aren't overly sensitive but yet very useful. Once you learn your amp it takes seconds to totally go from a Hendricks Plexi tone to a real scooped mid Metal tone. I used to play a old JCM 800. Great tone but a bit limited. The JCM 2000's have all the JCM 800 Tone but also can take you to many others as well.

To give you a idea just how good they are Marshall just released a 85 year anniversary model. It's modeled after the 2000's. I don't think they should have quit making them but thats only my opinion.

check out these links to hear the versatility

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ChrisVdS
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A brand new DSL 100 watts head is 1300 Euros which is about 1700 dollars, so 800 euros (a little over 1000 dollars) for a used one seems not bad at all. The TSL is 1300 aswell brand new and JVM 1500 euros, i think i will buy the one i can find first that's in excellent condition and not overpriced when i have the money to buy the head and cab.

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QUOTE (ChrisVdS @ Nov 5 2008, 12:38 PM) *
A brand new DSL 100 watts head is 1300 Euros which is about 1700 dollars, so 800 euros (a little over 1000 dollars) for a used one seems not bad at all. The TSL is 1300 aswell brand new and JVM 1500 euros, i think i will buy the one i can find first that's in excellent condition and not overpriced when i have the money to buy the head and cab.


Sounds like your on the right track. I picked up a used JCM 2000 dsl 50 in mint condition off Ebay for $675.00. The problem with heads if you don't already have a cabinet you have that cost. However, used ones 2x12 4x12 1x12 what ever you want seem to be had for a decent price used. I know guys who have had the same cabinet for 20 years but seem to change heads every whip stitch. So perhaps you should be keeping your eye out for a good deal on a used cabinet while your head shopping. Bottom line is you'll be getting great tone with any Marshall tube head.

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