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Jan 22 2008, 05:53 PM
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Ok,I ordered 8 new ElectroHarmonix 12ax7 tubes for my Triaxis,
just wanna be sure that I have everything solved right. Now,is there a big difference between brands like EH,Tesla,JJ,GrooveTubes,Mesa etc? I'm talking only about preamp tubes like 12ax7. C'mon you tube freaks,I need some info here 
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Jan 22 2008, 06:41 PM
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Not a big difference, but different flavours - Electroharmonix are usually pretty good from what I have heard, and I think it is less important for preamp tubes anyway, but stick with good brands for best results!
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Jan 22 2008, 08:27 PM
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As far as I've heard from hi-fi experts, the best tubes are Tesla giving the price\performance ratio.
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Jan 22 2008, 09:15 PM
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An old Trabant with 4 chinees cylinders will sound almost the same as an old traband with 4 JJ sylinders after the motor was fixed, it won't sound like a Dodge Charger V8
 Matched JJ's will probably sound good (or say better then, I'm not judging that...) over a longer period of time. Marshall and Boogie use Chineese tubes, probably saves them quite a bit of money while only 1% of the users can spot the difference anyway  I know I can't
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Jan 22 2008, 10:44 PM
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Thanks for input guys
 I thought as well that it's good to stay way from chinese tube, EH is russian as far as I know,says on the box  And MickeM claims that even Mesa buys from chinese, now that's something to think about... If Mesa does that,then who doesn't?
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Jan 23 2008, 02:27 AM
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QUOTE (USAMAN @ Jan 22 2008, 11:42 PM)  In my humble opinion (and experience), I have retubed several times with different 12ax7's in the same amp..Ive had it for years. I never noticed that huge of a difference between brands tone wise....I feel that that the gain varies as much as the tone when using different tubes. Neither of which is that big of the change. Peace. Yeah,I replaced preamp tubes in my old Mesa 2:50 few times,from Mesa to EH and then to EI. Didn't notice much difference. Of course that was poweramp and preamp tubes don't have major role. But since Triaxis is a preamp I was wondering... -------------------- Youtube
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Jan 23 2008, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE (Muris @ Jan 23 2008, 02:27 AM) Yeah,I replaced preamp tubes in my old Mesa 2:50 few times,from Mesa to EH and then to EI. Didn't notice much difference. Of course that was poweramp and preamp tubes don't have major role. But since Triaxis is a preamp I was wondering... When you got the pre amp tubes changed in the Triaxis let us know what happened with the sound, ok? Or even better, if it's not too demanding of course, make a short recording now to compare with at the exact same settings when you got the new tubes in I think that would be valuable to lots of people here... at least you'd get my attention, there's one already
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Jan 24 2008, 03:14 AM
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QUOTE (OrganisedConfusion @ Jan 23 2008, 02:06 PM) EH are amazing Tubes. I use nothing else. Thanks mate that's relief MickeM,main thing I'm changing tubes is cause I have some hum and noise, without any Noise Reduction tho. It might be tubes,there weren't new when I bought unit.... -------------------- Youtube
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Feb 10 2008, 07:17 PM
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QUOTE (mmasters @ Feb 10 2008, 06:50 PM) It really depends on the amp. I had a class A/B Rivera where differences in preamp tubes weren't overly noticable and EHs had a pretty good distorted sound and an ok clean. Now with my Groove Tubes Class A amps the difference is greater (as the tubes are driven harder). I've had the best results with JJs or Groove tubes myself for preamp tubes. For power tubes it's JJs all the way. For sound and value there is nothing that compares. Speaking of tube amps I'm only a Class A guy now!! I can't do a class A/B tube amps anymore! I see,thanks for info. Actually I ordered retube kit of JJ's from Eurotube.com, kind a set of 5 tubes,they are not all the same model tho cause sockets on Triaxis have deferent purposes. Hope it'll work nice,it shall be here soon.
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