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Feb 8 2019, 02:22 AM |
I like that one. If I recall correctly it has an example too. That one too. This post has been edited by Caelumamittendum: Feb 8 2019, 02:05 AM |
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Feb 8 2019, 03:56 PM |
It dates to early 20th classical music.
Schoenberg, Berg, Webern, Berio, Stockhausen, etc. There are many 'interpretations' of how it can applied and utilized. This guy (Ernst Levy) coined the term ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_Levy -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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Feb 8 2019, 10:20 PM |
It dates to early 20th classical music. Schoenberg, Berg, Webern, Berio, Stockhausen, etc. There are many 'interpretations' of how it can applied and utilized. This guy (Ernst Levy) coined the term ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_Levy Do you mean it was recognized as a term in 20th century? Does it mean the composers before it didn't use it on purpose or were they not aware of it? I sure need to learn the music history. Whenever you or other GMC-ers talk about it it sounds very interesting. -------------------- |
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Feb 8 2019, 10:47 PM |
Yeah, it's been a 'term' since the mid 20th cent. The technique was lumped into a broader category known as "Serial" or "12-Tone" music. Loosely, music that employs a lot of math techniques including the current iteration of 'negative' harmony.
The composers who utilized it were absolutely conscious of what it was. Here's some light reading for you ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serialism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve-tone_technique https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Viennese_School -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/foolin-the-clouds https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/surfin-at-the-country-hop Soundcloud assorted ... https://soundcloud.com/klasaine3 New record ... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kenlasaine Solo Guitar ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...5iIdO2tpgtj25Ke Stuff I'm on ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...b-dhb-4B0KgRY-d |
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Feb 9 2019, 01:36 AM |
Yeah, it's been a 'term' since the mid 20th cent. The technique was lumped into a broader category known as "Serial" or "12-Tone" music. Loosely, music that employs a lot of math techniques including the current iteration of 'negative' harmony. The composers who utilized it were absolutely conscious of what it was. Here's some light reading for you ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serialism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve-tone_technique https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Viennese_School Thank you. I will read it this afternoon, after work -------------------- |
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Feb 9 2019, 02:40 AM |
Before it was called negative harmony it was called inverse or inversion harmony (or melody). *Early 20th cent. 1919, Vienna.
Behold, a 12-tone row ... The top line is the 'row' (prime), the middle line is the same row in retrograde (reverse) and the bottom row is the inversion (or negative) of the top 'row'. You can also have a retrograde inversion ... and then of course transpose the rows utilizing all of this. Etc., etc., etc. Here's one of the classic pieces using 12-tone technique ... This post has been edited by klasaine: Feb 9 2019, 02:43 AM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/foolin-the-clouds https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/surfin-at-the-country-hop Soundcloud assorted ... https://soundcloud.com/klasaine3 New record ... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kenlasaine Solo Guitar ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...5iIdO2tpgtj25Ke Stuff I'm on ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...b-dhb-4B0KgRY-d |
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