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Focusrite Scarlett Solo 3rd Gen
Todd Simpson
May 19 2020, 06:47 PM
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Mertay is spot on per usual smile.gif The RME unit is top notch and to get from the quality you already have to a unit that has similar specs/sound, the RME line is a great choice. These units are just top notch. You will find them in pro studios all over the world. They are bullet proof work horses. That said they are not cheap. The RME Fireface UFX has THUNDERBOLT!
The berhinger unit would be a big step down from your current unit and this one. This is a very high end unit with a high end price tag.

OPENING THE SCARLETT SOLO!!

I opened the SOLO last night and downloaded the plugin bundle which would cost more than the unit itself!
ALMOST FORGOT! It's got the "AIR BUTTON" which is meant to emulate the airy high end of very rare and expensive consoles. I am looking forward to giving this a try as well. For such a small, inexpensive unit, this thing is amazing. For anyone looking to get their first interface, I would suggest this one. It will record at 192khz if you so desire smile.gif It has a huge dynamic range as a bonus.

The biggest improvement is inside the box. Compared to the GEN 2, the GEN 3 has better dynamic range etc.
The Dynamic Range figure – that is the difference between the output-level capability and the noise floor, so the bigger the better – is around 110dB across the new range for line, mic and instrument inputs. That compares to anything between 106-109dB for the 2nd-Gens. Conversely, the Total Harmonic Distortion figures (a measurement of distortion and noise, so the lower the better) is around half that of the previous generation, albeit from a pretty low starting point. The overall Gain Range has also been improved, from 50dB to 56dB, so it’s a promising set of specs.

Here is a vid demoing the AIR MODE and talking about the specs and bundled software. This is an amazing bargain imho for such high quality gear. Also, it's BUS POWERED! no power supply needed.




QUOTE (Mertay @ May 19 2020, 07:24 AM) *
Yeah if you don't want to decrease quality for quantity of inputs, the RME babyface seems to be the only option from my list.

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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ May 19 2020, 05:47 PM) *
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Cool!

I don't know of the loops but the focusrite collective had really nice offerings in the past I almost envied smile.gif The red plug-ins are really old but I remember using them in the past (on a protools HD system) and was considering them workhorse.

That air mode looks interesting, could you check if it also works for di too? also even though from memory how it compares to your previous soundcard would also be nice info.

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I'm game if you are wink.gif


Lol! biggrin.gif

Well I still feel tired even remembering online arguments on the 32-bit recording thing from the past smile.gif but I can say if one has enough harddisk space even if their soundcard supports 24-bit A/D recording, 32-bit float does have an advantage; https://audiohertz.com/2017/02/23/what-the-...2-bit-floating/

Reaper for example freeze's (convert to audio to save ram) midi instruments to 32-bit float by default.

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Todd Simpson
May 19 2020, 09:03 PM
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The red plugins have been around forever, they are very solid and good workhorse plugins smile.gif The AIR mode works on anything you put in to the box, including vocals, which is handy smile.gif I loved my iconnectivity card. So flexible, it would let you plug in to ipads to use as instruments and could plug in a PC and Mac at the same time. Very cool box! I don't remember it sounding quite this good though. It didnt have the "air" button and the preamps were very neutral, but this one does seem to have way more headroom and it's dead quiet. Also you can use both inputs on the front for different tracks! So it's really a 2 channel interface even though it's called the "SOLO".

QUOTE (Mertay @ May 19 2020, 02:26 PM) *
Cool!

I don't know of the loops but the focusrite collective had really nice offerings in the past I almost envied smile.gif The red plug-ins are really old but I remember using them in the past (on a protools HD system) and was considering them workhorse.

That air mode looks interesting, could you check if it also works for di too? also even though from memory how it compares to your previous soundcard would also be nice info.



Lol! biggrin.gif

Well I still feel tired even remembering online arguments on the 32-bit recording thing from the past smile.gif but I can say if one has enough harddisk space even if their soundcard supports 24-bit A/D recording, 32-bit float does have an advantage; https://audiohertz.com/2017/02/23/what-the-...2-bit-floating/

Reaper for example freeze's (convert to audio to save ram) midi instruments to 32-bit float by default.

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Yes for me this seems to be the winner: https://www.rme-audio.de/babyface-pro-fs.html

But another option I guess would be to find a used Apogee Duet and use in conjunction with the one I already got - if the drivers support it. I already do this with an ESI24 U24XL to get some extra inputs. However since the Duet already has some driver issues I am afraid those would just multiply.

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The BABYFACE is a very nice unit. It's got the same quality as it's big brothers in the line with a much smaller form factor. It's so small that it's easily portable. You can take that unit, a camera, laptop, headphones and a guitar and you've got a top notch portable recording studio that's ideal for remote location recording, podcasts, live streams, etc. Good choice!

Todd

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Yes for me this seems to be the winner: https://www.rme-audio.de/babyface-pro-fs.html

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i have focusrite scarlett 2i4 2nd gen.This card are great! only there is no support on new systems and drivers are not released. in the latest driver version 4.63, the developers did something that now the input and output are defined as separate devices and I had problems on windows 8.1, so I use version 4.36 - it is stable.
such a question, I’ll hurt my guitar if I use a microphone on the second channel with +48v?

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May 27 2020, 02:54 AM
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I don't see why it should? But it's worth I'd contact the vendor support directly.

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i have focusrite scarlett 2i4 2nd gen.This card are great! only there is no support on new systems and drivers are not released. in the latest driver version 4.63, the developers did something that now the input and output are defined as separate devices and I had problems on windows 8.1, so I use version 4.36 - it is stable.
such a question, I’ll hurt my guitar if I use a microphone on the second channel with +48v?

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May 28 2020, 12:36 AM
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I LOVE how small the new third gen solo is and I LOVE how it has the direct monitoring and the AIR switch. Best of all it's only $100! Anyone who wants a top notch interface that does mic input and guitar input can get one of these and have a great start on their home studio. However, I spent today testing it again my toneshifter 3 and my 11 rack. It sounds just as good as both of them. It's a solid unit with ZERO lag and, requires ZERO drivers, and is buss powered!!!! It's just a great unit. However, after comparing it again my other audio interfaces, I decided I just didn't need it. It's my fourth interface and I just don't need four interfaces. I really like how it's buss powered and small and will work with my iphone and pretty much anything without the need to plug it in to power. If I didn't have a stack of other interfaces I'd keep it. I was really just curious to try it. My verdict is that it's the best piece of kit to come down the pike in years and anyone looking to start a home studio should get one. I loved the bundled software as well which I intend to keep! But, amazon offered me a full refund, as since it's just a spare unit, I decided to send it back and just keep all the software. It's a great unit. I just don't need four interfaces. So I sent it back today. I hope I don't end up missing it. I'm going to use my tone shifter 3 as my portable unit since the little y adapter lets it be bus powered. Also it can work fine with my iphone as a portable recording setup. It's a killer device. I just don't really need a fourth one. My hat is off to Scarlett to making a great bit of kit!!!!

If anyone else gets a GEN 3 please do let me know what you think about it!

Todd

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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ May 28 2020, 02:36 AM) *
I LOVE how small the new third gen solo is and I LOVE how it has the direct monitoring and the AIR switch. Best of all it's only $100! Anyone who wants a top notch interface that does mic input and guitar input can get one of these and have a great start on their home studio. However, I spent today testing it again my toneshifter 3 and my 11 rack. It sounds just as good as both of them. It's a solid unit with ZERO lag and, requires ZERO drivers, and is buss powered!!!! It's just a great unit. However, after comparing it again my other audio interfaces, I decided I just didn't need it. It's my fourth interface and I just don't need four interfaces. I really like how it's buss powered and small and will work with my iphone and pretty much anything without the need to plug it in to power. If I didn't have a stack of other interfaces I'd keep it. I was really just curious to try it. My verdict is that it's the best piece of kit to come down the pike in years and anyone looking to start a home studio should get one. I loved the bundled software as well which I intend to keep! But, amazon offered me a full refund, as since it's just a spare unit, I decided to send it back and just keep all the software. It's a great unit. I just don't need four interfaces. So I sent it back today. I hope I don't end up missing it. I'm going to use my tone shifter 3 as my portable unit since the little y adapter lets it be bus powered. Also it can work fine with my iphone as a portable recording setup. It's a killer device. I just don't really need a fourth one. My hat is off to Scarlett to making a great bit of kit!!!!

If anyone else gets a GEN 3 please do let me know what you think about it!

Todd

did you connect the guitar directly, how does it sound?

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Yes! Sounded Great ! Especially the DIRECT MONITORING and the "AIR" button. It's a GREAT little unit that is bus powered and takes up almost no space. What's more, it works with your ipad, phone, etc. Sounds just as good as the big brother units in the same line. If I needed an interface, that would be the one I wold buy hands down. Just an amazing little unit. I just already have four interfaces. I don't really need five.

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