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Posted by: Wabba Dec 1 2008, 02:59 PM

Hi! I would like to know some alternate/speed picking patterns for scale runs. I know just few of tem, and I think that I need more of them, cause I can't use the same pattern in every solo. So if you know any patterns, or lessons with patterns, then please, can you tell them to me?

Posted by: kaznie_NL Dec 1 2008, 03:01 PM

okz, ehm... check out Brian May style lesson (Walliman) it has some runs. Also Pavels Alternate picking lessons, they might be way to hard to play, but the paterns can be useable. Also Gabriel's Iron Maiden lesson has an AP run. Ofcourse lessons like Muris' Alternate Picking are full of patterns!

Posted by: OrganisedConfusion Dec 1 2008, 03:06 PM

Every lesson has patterns. You just need to understand the theory. Say you are in E Major and you have chords of E Major, A Major and B Major you can just do different runs in the E Major scale in any pattern and depending on which mode you use depends on what sound you get. So for a simple example take this


e---------------------------------------------------------
b-----------------------14-16-17--------------------------
g------------13-14-16--------------13-14-16---------------
d-13-14-16------------------------------------13-14-16----
a---------------------------------------------------------
E---------------------------------------------------------

Posted by: Wabba Dec 1 2008, 04:06 PM

Yeah, I know that every (shred) lesson has patterns. But I was looking for new patterns, and some lessons use same, common patterns. But thanks from the help anyway!

Posted by: Noangels Dec 1 2008, 04:13 PM

Make sure you dont just learn 3 note per string scales all over the neck,you will fall on your back when you attempt fast two note per string penatonic shapes as your hands will be sync'd to playing those 3 notes all the time!

If you want to add some colour to your playing try some whole tone shapes


You may also like to download Paul Gilberts Intense Rock powertab file that is around the net(google it)for lots of cool picking licks and arps:)

Posted by: Wabba Dec 1 2008, 04:22 PM

QUOTE (Noangels @ Dec 1 2008, 05:13 PM) *
Make sure you dont just learn 3 note per string scales all over the neck,you will fall on your back when you attempt fast two note per string penatonic shapes as your hands will be sync'd to playing those 3 notes all the time!

If you want to add some colour to your playing try some whole tone shapes


You may also like to download Paul Gilberts Intense Rock powertab file that is around the net(google it)for lots of cool picking licks and arps:)



Checked it. It doesn't seem to contain anything that's missing from me.

Posted by: Jose Mena Dec 1 2008, 04:54 PM

QUOTE (Wabba @ Dec 1 2008, 08:59 AM) *
Hi! I would like to know some alternate/speed picking patterns for scale runs. I know just few of tem, and I think that I need more of them, cause I can't use the same pattern in every solo. So if you know any patterns, or lessons with patterns, then please, can you tell them to me?

Chek out this exercise lesson

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guitar/alternate-picking-16th-note-exercises/

It contains a few patterns useful for 16th note runs arranged in 3 notes per string, maybe you'll find that useful

Posted by: Wabba Dec 1 2008, 05:04 PM

QUOTE (Jose Mena @ Dec 1 2008, 05:54 PM) *
Chek out this exercise lesson

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guitar/alternate-picking-16th-note-exercises/

It contains a few patterns useful for 16th note runs arranged in 3 notes per string, maybe you'll find that useful


It looks a good lesson, I'll start practicing immediatly!

Oh wait, I can't! I managed to break my guitars upper E-string sad.gif. I was peacefully bending it, and then, without any warning, it splitted into two pieces and and the longer part almost slashed my face. How long it usually takes to fix this kind of a problem?

Posted by: OrganisedConfusion Dec 1 2008, 05:05 PM

QUOTE (Wabba @ Dec 1 2008, 04:04 PM) *
It looks a good lesson, I'll start practicing immediatly!

Oh wait, I can't! I managed to break my guitars upper E-string sad.gif. I was peacefully bending it, and then, without any warning, it splitted into two pieces and and the longer part almost slashed my face. How long it usually takes to fix this kind of a problem?

As long as it takes you to change a string biggrin.gif

Posted by: Wabba Dec 1 2008, 05:06 PM

QUOTE (OrganisedConfusion @ Dec 1 2008, 06:05 PM) *
As long as it takes you to change a string biggrin.gif


Yeah, but I don't know how to change string, or how long it takes, or where to go to get a new one.

Posted by: Jose Mena Dec 1 2008, 05:10 PM

QUOTE (Wabba @ Dec 1 2008, 11:06 AM) *
Yeah, but I don't know how to change string, or how long it takes, or where to go to get a new one.

Changing strings should be pretty straight forward, tons of info online about it I am pretty sure.

Posted by: Wabba Dec 1 2008, 05:11 PM

QUOTE (Jose Mena @ Dec 1 2008, 06:10 PM) *
Changing strings should be pretty straight forward, tons of info online about it I am pretty sure.



Okay. I hope so smile.gif

Posted by: OrganisedConfusion Dec 1 2008, 05:14 PM

Ivan has a lesson on changing strings on GMC if you search through his lessons smile.gif

Posted by: Emilio Perez Dec 1 2008, 11:49 PM

you can organize your scales using therr notes per string,so you can play up-down-up or down-up.down on a single string depending of the direction of the scale.this pattern was popularized by Frank Gambale.
At the beginning may be kinda unconfortable but later it will be great, you can check also for nice scale patterns in youtube, check paul gilbert sequences.



Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Dec 2 2008, 12:13 AM

Here's a http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/misc-lessons/restringing-the-guitar-step-by-step-guide/ mate. You can buy the strings in any guitar shop or online. Just make sure you get the same gauge of strings you are using now.

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Dec 2 2008, 12:22 AM

Here is one for you


Go to this link for more examples with alternate legato tapping etc

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=20166&hl=Practice+plan

Posted by: Noangels Dec 2 2008, 08:58 AM

QUOTE (Wabba @ Dec 1 2008, 03:22 PM) *
Checked it. It doesn't seem to contain anything that's missing from me.


realy?fair enough mate but considering you dont know how to change a string,or where to buy one I find it amusing that you think Paul Gilberts Intense rock lessons contain nothing that you cant do now!

Post a clip of your playing when you get a chance as I would love to hear someone who does all the gilbert stuff but hasnt changes a string yet!lol

amazing

Posted by: Emir Hot Dec 2 2008, 11:14 AM

I am doing a lesson with some fast 16th triplets runs. The lesson is all about that. Could be done next week.

Posted by: Wabba Dec 2 2008, 03:42 PM

QUOTE (Noangels @ Dec 2 2008, 09:58 AM) *
realy?fair enough mate but considering you dont know how to change a string,or where to buy one I find it amusing that you think Paul Gilberts Intense rock lessons contain nothing that you cant do now!

Post a clip of your playing when you get a chance as I would love to hear someone who does all the gilbert stuff but hasnt changes a string yet!lol

amazing



Hehe, I think that I just checked the wrong tab. I googled "intense rock tabs", and found a tab with same exercises as in dahls speedpicking lessons.

And now I've changed the string.

EDIt: Okay... I'm just too lazy to check out the whole tab... It probably contains lots of good techiques. But why should I play 2 notes per string patterns, If almost everyone uses 3-note per strings patterns?

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Dec 2 2008, 07:48 PM

QUOTE (Wabba @ Dec 2 2008, 03:42 PM) *
EDIt: Okay... I'm just too lazy to check out the whole tab... It probably contains lots of good techiques. But why should I play 2 notes per string patterns, If almost everyone uses 3-note per strings patterns?


2 note per string patterns give you a broader technique abilities when playing mate, so you can express yourself even better. Lots of times while playing you will need to use just 2 notes on one string, so this technique is one of the essentials.

Posted by: Wabba Dec 2 2008, 07:55 PM

QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Dec 2 2008, 08:48 PM) *
2 note per string patterns give you a broader technique abilities when playing mate, so you can express yourself even better. Lots of times while playing you will need to use just 2 notes on one string, so this technique is one of the essentials.


Yeah, I know, it was actually a stupid question... But 2 notes per string is so hard to play fast. smile.gif

Posted by: Noangels Dec 3 2008, 09:07 AM

Its essential to learn the scale boxes in 3 notes per string (diagonal right across the strings)and the coventinal old boxes that goes verticaly up and sits over the chord(for the most part)
The non 3 note per string scales have a two note grouping in amongst the 3 notes and this alone works you on playing two notes up to speed with the 3 note strings:)
If one just plays the 3 note shapes,then there is a great chance they will fall on their back when attemping fast Carl Verheyen or Eric J pent licks that need quick explosive 4 note groupings using 2 notes per string as their hands are sync'd to 3 note runs
A lot of Paul Gilberts arps are string skipped with big two note per string phrasing.

Nuno from extreme does the same two note per string phrasing on his arps in Play With me.Thats another good exercise to use so download that powertab and have neoclassical fun:)

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