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AK Rich
Jun 7 2019, 08:34 AM
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Jun 6 2019, 07:46 PM) *
Sigh. Again. Never said fox news is Anti semitic. I'll say it again
I NEVER SAID FOX NEWS IS ANTI SEMITIC. Please go back and re read the post. Here is the text from said post just so you can read it.

I did reference an article in the New York Times which is the most respectable news paper we have in this country (unless one is a fan of Fox News, Far Right Propoganda, or Anti Semitic) . It's not anti musilim or anti turk. It's just a news paper. Here is a clip.


Notice that I didn't say that Fox is anti semitic. One a request was made to show an example of Fox Behaving in an anti semitic manner, I simply provided a link to such an example. There are plenty of them. I'm not going to keep sharing examples because there's no point. If you can't recognize the New York Times (Has won more Pulitzer Prizes than any Paper ever) as an authoritative source, then there is no source I can provide you with that you'd accept. That's on you though. Not me. But again that was NEVER my point never my assertion. That's something that you and carson accused me of saying which I never actually said. Now we have a string of posts of you two accusing me of saying something which I never said and we are way off topic. Hopefully this wraps that up.
Sadly, yes Fox news is far right by any standard or measure.Here is a handy chart by the university of Michigan which breaks it down. Fox is about as far right MSNBC is far left. This is a breakdown by a highly respected research institution, but if you can reject NYT as a source, then you probably will reject U Mich as well, and I guess only take Fox News as Gospel?
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IN BRIEF:

~No I never said fox was anti semitic. See above.
~Yes the Pulitzer Prize is the highest award in the field of Journalism. If you don't like the NYT, you have to blame Pulitizer I guess smile.gif It's weak, but it's all that's left.
~Yes Fox news is a Far right propaganda outlet just as much as MSNBC is a left wing propaganda outlet It's not legitimate news. It's punditry.


Having said that, if you wanna watch fox, great. if you wanna watch MSNBC great. Doesn't matter. They are what they are. I watch both.
Can we refocus back to History now?

Maybe you didn't exactly say that Fox was antisemitic but when you lump these things together like this (unless one is a fan of Fox News, Far Right Propoganda, or Anti Semitic) I think it is a reasonable assumption that you believe that they are. And if you weren't saying it, why would you try to show an example unless that is what you believe and really were saying without exactly saying it? Your example fails by the way and it is worth noting the source of your example, Media Matters, is financed in part by George Soros indirectly from the Democracy Alliance of which he is a founding member.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Matters_for_America

I like your chart too but I didn't see anything on there about anyone being labeled far right. But whats even more interesting , and maybe you overlooked it but The NYT is set further left of center than Fox is set to the right of center. The 0 on the chart indicates the center. Actually the NYT is set more than twice as far to the left of center (about 2 1/2 times further actually) than Fox is set to the right of center and much further left than MSNBC. So I guess that makes the NYT far far far left by your standards. Right? Sarcasm, sorry.
Anyway that chart isn't a ranking of the news sources themselves but a ranking of the ideology of the people who get their news from one of the listed sources, some of which aren't even news sources like the Daily Show or the Hannity show for example.
Did you even read it?

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Jun 7 2019, 08:58 AM
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Oh we got into Media again laugh.gif cool.gif

When I was 10, Turkey had only 2-3 tv channels owned by the government. I pretty much witnessed how private networks came to be and how they slided to a political side.

Today I recommend watching 3 tv channels (can be newspaper too) to get a proper idea for something. 1 you favor politically, 1 you hate and the other struggling to play on both sides. Since thats almost impossible in an active daily life, common sense and suspicion has to be the judge on where you feel the corners of the truth have been shaped.

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AK Rich
Jun 7 2019, 09:42 AM
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QUOTE (Mertay @ Jun 6 2019, 11:58 PM) *
Oh we got into Media again laugh.gif cool.gif

When I was 10, Turkey had only 2-3 tv channels owned by the government. I pretty much witnessed how private networks came to be and how they slided to a political side.

Today I recommend watching 3 tv channels (can be newspaper too) to get a proper idea for something. 1 you favor politically, 1 you hate and the other struggling to play on both sides. Since thats almost impossible in an active daily life, common sense and suspicion has to be the judge on where you feel the corners of the truth have been shaped.

+1 Mertay. This approach is necessary if you want to be fully informed on the issues, especially politics. I actually look at many more than 3 since there are so many.

QUOTE (klasaine @ Jun 6 2019, 08:22 PM) *
Wow, you all buy into the Soros thing.

OK.
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If you are referring to me among others (you all)? I never said or implied that I bought into anything about Soros. Only that some speculation about him supporting migrant caravans is plausible given his history and support for open borders/open society to elaborate a bit more on what I had posted. If you weren't referring to me, then never mind. My bad.

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I guess this one has gotten into sensitive territory - so I will close it to stay on the topic of guitar or at least non-polemic topics!

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