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Apr 27 2010, 10:13 PM
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Without knowing for sure, my reaction is one of logic:
- Marketing at the scale this company is suggesting requires capital. - Capital means they don't need money from you. -------------------- ::jafomatic
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Apr 27 2010, 10:14 PM
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Why are they asking for your money if they want to use your material? Shouldn't you get paid instead or at the least run it on a "paid if income" basis?
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Apr 27 2010, 10:17 PM
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I'd be careful about such things. I have never heard of them, so I can't say if they are trying to ripp you off or if they are really willing to do something, but it sounds strange to me.
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Apr 27 2010, 10:39 PM
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You could ask for a list of references, then call them and hear what their experience was.
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Apr 27 2010, 10:45 PM
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This sounds very suspicious to me. And I don't see any real benefit in doing this. You can do all that alone by yourself (pay for mastering of 1 track and duplicating on CDs) + distributing to online services. That distribution is nowadays offered everywhere including (reverbnation.com, cdbaby.com etc)...
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Apr 27 2010, 10:50 PM
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if they are legit, and they got a good marketing plan, go for it!
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Apr 28 2010, 12:24 AM
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Try it - you got only 225$ to loose if it's a scam
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Apr 28 2010, 02:50 AM
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Why would they ask you to pay them for that?
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Apr 28 2010, 06:04 AM
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Ask to see a copy of the contract before you agree to anything.
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Apr 28 2010, 06:21 AM
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I know lots of "Producers" that do this. It's not always a benefit. You have to think now as a business man. You have a product (totally apart from the song) that sounds good and you think that can catch the atenttion of the people, then go and do it. If you still doubt, then, wait a little bit. If you do things right, things will appear alone
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Apr 28 2010, 10:36 AM
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Just thinking; maybe they contact hundereds of bands, charge everone $200 to cover for their work but only 10 songs will make it to the record in the end.
A CD that they will promote in a way that others will do for free or just for the song-bar id cost. You need to read and understand the contract. It could be legit to do this, 95% of the bands will feel fooled but the contract (that noone reads anyway) will likely work for their cause. -------------------- My bands homepage
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Apr 28 2010, 11:35 AM
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AFAIK they are legit - more about what they do is here.
Nonetheless I'm not entirely convinced of a need for this or indeed of value for money for you. From their site they will have 15-20 tracks on a cd and charge each at 220. So they charge 3300-4400 per cd before actually receiving any income from sales. To put that in to perspective - for 1000 CDs - and lets use 1000 as 20 groups may want 50 copies each. A good indie mastering engineer usually charges about 1000USD to master a 10-20 track cd (you can get it mastered for a lot less, or pay even more - your choice). This includes the redbook master CDA that is sent to the replication plant. You get to chose the ME and get a say in how your work is mastered. You also get the physical master CDA disc/DDP rather than a replication. The replication plant charges by volume and can also do all inlay cards/cd box etc. A standard charge here would be 50 cents per cd for a run of 1000. So 500 USD. If you run independently then you have to formally register as a record label to get your ISRC and for Amazon and a few others you need the bar code as well. ISRC is a one off cost of about 60USD and the barcode about 40 - so 100USD. So far you have spent 1600 USD for 1000 CDs. Now you have to distribute. ALL of the distribution here is digital via iTunes/Amazon/Rhapsody download - AFAIK none of these charge to carry your product. Marketing - (they say they distribute to radio stations and record labels etc but that doesn't seem to provide any real detail on this. Otherwise you distribute the physical copy yourself at gigs.) It's time consuming but not particularly hard to mail your cd to some suitable radio station djs and record label execs/A&R. Iif you need contact info then there is an industry 'yellow pages' type directory which costs about 50 USD - so you mail to 100 at a cost of 100 USD. Cost to market 150USD. You've spent in total 1750USD for 1000cds and have digital distribution and some marketing. You also got to chose the mastering engineer as the one you think is best for the job and you now have your own indie record label. Value for money... Depends largely on whether you think them doing the mailing to radio stations/record labels and upload to itunes etc is worth it. This post has been edited by tonymiro: Apr 28 2010, 11:47 AM -------------------- Get your music professionally mastered by anl AES registered Mastering Engineer. Contact me for Audio Mastering Services and Advice and visit our website www.miromastering.com
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Apr 28 2010, 01:42 PM
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QUOTE (Enucleation @ Apr 27 2010, 11:10 PM)  My band got an email from this thing saying they liked one of our songs and wanted to put it on a metal compilation CD. Has anyone heard of anything like this before? I googled it and some people say they think it is a scam but later people will argue that it is legit. Im really excited if this is for real but... i dont want to throw away the 220 USD they are asking for. on a side note, my bands myspace is www.myspace.com/enucleationofficial No scam Hi there , its not a scam, they do what they advertise. I had one of my songs published on one of their compilations Link to the song . However what they do is making money not trying to help you with your career. You get some mastering of your track, they put it online on emusic, itunes and what not and they give you a number of CDs. Thats an ok value. I did it because as a rather talent free guy I wanted to have one published song in my live so I was thinking: wooow coool. Anyway be aware that this is no big favour they do you. They simply want your money. And you could take a song, upload it on a self marketing platform and pay a few bucs to get it on itunes, emusic etc. too. You could even print some CDs for that money. Anyway what they offer you, is to be on a compi with other bands and there seem to be people that buy their compis. I got some feedback from people that bought the compi I am on. That means that you might reach someone. So think about it. If you have money to spare, go ahead. If not, use the self marketing tools on the net and get similar value for way less money. This post has been edited by ItsMe: Apr 28 2010, 02:42 PM |
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