Connecting Vocal Melody With Your Rhythm?
Eat-Sleep-andJam
May 22 2009, 02:38 AM
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I'm just curious if anyone has a specific approach to singing and connecting it with what your playing on your instrument.

Some times it just comes natural to me and It just "clicks" so to speak, but other times it's like searching for a needle in a haystack.

I wasn't sure how many of you actually sing and play but if you do I would appreciate any feedback, thanks.

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Ivan Milenkovic
May 22 2009, 09:15 AM
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Well, vocal melody usually follows the same notes as harmony, so using the scales that are within the key is a good place to start.
There are various music styles with various different approaches to singing and vocal line composing, but in general if you are making a song, vocal line is something that has to be put in the front of everything else. If you have a strong vocal line, you have a strong song. It needs to be catchy, to have somekind of a structure that is interesting for the listener so he/she wants to hear it again, it needs to be powerful, and carry the whole song.

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Muris Varajic
May 22 2009, 11:56 AM
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You have problems with timing when playing some tune
or is it composing?

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Eat-Sleep-andJam
May 22 2009, 12:42 PM
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Composing specifically, I can write a bit, but usually I don't tackle the the vocal or the rhythm individually, it usually comes natural.

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Here is an audio track of me playing, the sound quality pretty much sucks and my vocals aren't very good but I mean things like this usually come a bit more natural even if there not really good, while on the other hand its harder to connect and build a vocal line along with some of the lyrics I have written and then add in the guitar.

So composing specifically.

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Jakub Luptovec
May 22 2009, 12:43 PM
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QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ May 22 2009, 10:15 AM) *
Well, vocal melody usually follows the same notes as harmony, so using the scales that are within the key is a good place to start.
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It needs to be catchy, to have somekind of a structure that is interesting for the listener so he/she wants to hear it again, it needs to be powerful, and carry the whole song.


Sorry to hijack thread, but any tips on that?

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Muris Varajic
May 22 2009, 01:00 PM
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Vocal line should be treated as any other lead line,
just like in guitar lead in instrumental tunes per example.
As Ivan said, it needs to follow progression in a way
but all in all it comes down to how it sounds.
So you can have one note over x chords or x notes over one chord
there is no some kind of a rule, ear is THE rule. smile.gif

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Eat-Sleep-andJam
May 22 2009, 01:01 PM
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Seems like something that just gets better with practice , I will keep working at it.

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Muris Varajic
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QUOTE (Eat-Sleep-andJam @ May 22 2009, 02:01 PM) *
Seems like something that just gets better with practice , I will keep working at it.

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It's always like that, even harder when it's about composing. smile.gif

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