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You are on the right track, those chords are right. There are some more chords lacking and yes I find minor and dominant stuff... The first thing that you can learn is what the bass is doing. Bass is always easier to hear and it can give you the root in many cases. Then, you can try major, minor, dominant and see which one sound good or closer.

Once you have done this, you can then check like versions to be sure that he is playing what you think.

This can be slow but it's a great training for your ears.

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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Feb 2 2016, 01:52 PM) *
You are on the right track, those chords are right. There are some more chords lacking and yes I find minor and dominant stuff... The first thing that you can learn is what the bass is doing. Bass is always easier to hear and it can give you the root in many cases. Then, you can try major, minor, dominant and see which one sound good or closer.

Once you have done this, you can then check like versions to be sure that he is playing what you think.

This can be slow but it's a great training for your ears.


Okay, new attempt. I think its something like this (does at least sound good to me tongue.gif ): Am, D, Gm, Gm/D# (or D#maj7 as well?)

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QUOTE (mhskeide @ Feb 4 2016, 04:52 PM) *
Okay, new attempt. I think its something like this (does at least sound good to me tongue.gif ): Am, D, Gm, Gm/D# (or D#maj7 as well?)

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And finishes with another D, I forgot to add. Other than that, I think the song just keeps on repeating smile.gif

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Well mate, I think that you are ready to continue with another song and maybe getting back to this one in 1 month to re-check what you got.

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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Feb 10 2016, 05:05 PM) *
Well mate, I think that you are ready to continue with another song and maybe getting back to this one in 1 month to re-check what you got.

How is the technique work going?



Cool! I want to practice some more "nice sounding" stuff, so I`ll pick Ozzy`s Goodbye to Romance as my next one, to involve a cool solo as well!

Technique is going well! I think my AP is starting to sound okay again, and I`m doing several legato and riffing lessons, as well as learning songs, to improve on these subjects. The only vibrato I have practiced so far is for Overture 1928, which I am soon ready to do a new take for!

I found an acceptable video/audio recording setup last night, so I will hopefully post some REC-takes and covers in the weeks to come smile.gif


Best of all: Picking up the guitar feels way more fun the last few weeks, rather than something "I have to do". smile.gif

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This sounds great mate. I'm glad to know that you note your progress and that you are motivated. Keep enjoying the journey!

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I haven`t learned the song or solo yet, due to busy days at school and trying to practise other stuff, but I think I`ve mapped it fairly good now, so actually learning it should be easy smile.gif

Will also be posting a new REC tonight biggrin.gif

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Great job with the analysis! I'll check your REC take.

You are ready to start analyzing another song.

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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Feb 18 2016, 11:57 PM) *
Great job with the analysis! I'll check your REC take.

You are ready to start analyzing another song.


Gaah, almost 10 days since this post. School has been superbusy the last days, so I will hopefully get back to the practise train after Monday again:)

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Hi mate, thanks for the update. Fingers crossed you can get back to practice soon!

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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Feb 28 2016, 04:36 PM) *
Hi mate, thanks for the update. Fingers crossed you can get back to practice soon!


Phui, easier said than done! School is really a bitch lately. Just for curiosity: Actually studying acoustics on an advanced level, so hopefully, a work with something sound/music related is waiting some way down the path smile.gif And I have luckily acquired a cheap acoustic guitar which have been easier to pick up for covers/song writing these busy nights.

Anyways: Pulled my self together tonight and made a new REC take. Will pick a song for analysis tomorror or by the weekend. Will maybe try something bit more advanced next time (but not with too funky tuning, since I only have brought one guitar with me).

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Hi mate, thanks for the update and congrats on the new guitar.

The plan sounds good, I'll wait for your takes!

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Hey man! Sunday update/questions:

1) The REC-tace. I saw your comment, about the tone, which I didn`t like too much either, but I needed inspiration for achieving the proper metal core tightness. From a modelling perspective (I use atomic amps amplifire), any tips for what kind of amp style, eq and settings etc I should use for the proper tone?


2) Finding songs for analysis. I`m unsure about which song(s) to pick. Should I pick something with chords to analyse, or rhytm, or something complicated? For instance, I`ve learned 3-4 new songs for the acoustic guitar last week, but they are kinda easy classics like Layla, and similar. I suppose its not worth writing a full analysis of these?

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Well, you have a long list of great bands you like so you can choose from there. In my opinion some Beatles songs could be a great idea to analyze. Maybe, in order to make things easier you can use a classic analysis of these songs that can be found HERE.

and only write down those elements that you find "different" or "interesting".

Regarding your tone, I've never used that amp but what you need is any kind of Mesa Boogie, EVH or Soldano amp simulation. Diezel and ENG can be good options too... You need a high gain amp that give a tone with more attack and definition.

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So ones again an eternity since I posted anything...
Can briefly be explained of me going through some stuff the last months, not leaving much energy for constructive rehearsing, even though I`ve picked up the guitar every now and then, but trying again! smile.gif

Took a look at Beatles - Something. Managed to figure almost all of the chords out, but then I took a look at the "cheat sheet" you linked to, and that made me realise my analysis have been somewhat deficient. E.g. I completely miss the different "orderings" of the chords like V and VI etc, because I don`t think about it or haven`t learned it properly yet.

So I guess what I`m saying, is that I would like to increase my knowledge about music theory and how stuff goes together, if that makes sense?

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Learning theory is always helpful. It's good to develop the habit of learning or re-studying one new concept every day. You can dedicate 15 or 20 minutes to it and it will make the difference after some months, and imagine the difference you'll note after some years.

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Went through Hey Jude today, and focused more on the chords and their place in the scale, rather than the actual instruments used, since the dynamic of the song is pretty straight forward, with the exception of the long sing-a-long part in the end.

Added some questions, as well as I marked some chords red, since I was not quite sure, but sounded good in my ears.

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Good job! As you can see, their songs are pure treasure. smile.gif

Some little corrections:

Chorus: F7/Eb ­ Bb ­ F/A ­ Gm ­ Fsus4add13 ­ C/E ­ F


Does it change to F mixolydian here, to make the chords add up..? YES!

I ­ bVii ­ IV
F ­ Eb ­ Bb



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I think I actually did have the right chord yesterday, just wrote wrong.

anyways, this is what I thought was good:

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Even though the chord analyzer does not say so, isn`t that the Fsus4add13 chord? Or is that add6, since the D is below the first octave..?

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That's right! As you can see in that chart, chords can be called different depending on context. The chord that I suggested is exactly the same that you are showing there and it can be called with any of those names. Same notes, different perspective.

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Not the hardest song today, but wanted to learn it, so I figured I might as well try a full analysis. The osng, Sivert Høyem - Sleepwalking Man. One of the best, male voices from Norway in the pop/rock business today, IMO smile.gif

https://open.spotify.com/track/0A09FlKwoGpCzSo14RT3DH

Since the chords were fairly simple this time (I think?) I also tried to include some other instruments, even though not so detailed.

So what`s next? More songs? Something more specific?smile.gif

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