187 American Cities Pledge To Uphold Paris Accord |
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Jun 4 2017, 01:22 AM
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hey Lindsay , good to see you back
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVOOMyYde0c&t=512s This post has been edited by jstcrsn: Jun 4 2017, 01:26 AM |
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Jun 4 2017, 01:36 AM
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In his speech, President Trump cited an MIT study as evidence the Paris objectives would only have a "tiny" effect on temperature change. However, according to the very paper he cited, his numbers are wrong:
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-clim...t-idUSKBN18S6L0 Maybe it was an innocent mistake and he just misunderstood. Who knew climate change could be so complicated? -------------------- Cyber-industrial music and video animations:
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Jun 4 2017, 07:02 AM
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"Alternative Facts" are people too
 My new fave show on Comedy Central "The President Show" Priceless QUOTE (Rammikin @ Jun 3 2017, 08:36 PM)  In his speech, President Trump cited an MIT study as evidence the Paris objectives would only have a "tiny" effect on temperature change. However, according to the very paper he cited, his numbers are wrong: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-clim...t-idUSKBN18S6L0 Maybe it was an innocent mistake and he just misunderstood. Who knew climate change could be so complicated? |
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). So end result although they pay for paris agreement, its nothing to them cause they're leading the tech. and production.
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Jun 4 2017, 03:56 PM
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As bad as it looks as a 'face to put forward' for the US, we're not going to invest any more than we have been in current times in fossil fuels. Green is the way to go. Even Exxon thinks so. California, Oregon, Washington state, etc. are not going to alter their commitment to carbon draw down.
The Paris Accords don't go into effect until 2020. The next presidential election takes place in November of 2020. QED. -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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Jun 4 2017, 06:00 PM
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Jun 4 2017, 08:06 AM) Our current top export is Military Hardware. Make no mistake that all the tanks/guns we sell are little more than jobs programs. Our own Military keeps turning tanks away so hundreds are sitting in the mid west waiting for a buyer. Please  http://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/profile/country/usa/#Exports http://www.worldsrichestcountries.com/top_us_exports.html http://www.businessinsider.com/the-top-exp...us-state-2015-5 http://www.worldstopexports.com/united-sta...top-10-exports/ The attack on free market capitalism, the redistribution of the United States wealth, and quest for absolute power and control has been slowed for the time being. |
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Jun 4 2017, 06:34 PM
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Please? Your welcome
But I should have said "one of our Fastest Growing" (still a jobs program) here is a grab from one of your own sources. The second link. I love when the response contains handy info!  QUOTE (AK Rich @ Jun 4 2017, 01:00 PM) Please
http://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/profile/country/usa/#Exports http://www.worldsrichestcountries.com/top_us_exports.html http://www.businessinsider.com/the-top-exp...us-state-2015-5 http://www.worldstopexports.com/united-sta...top-10-exports/ The attack on free market capitalism, the redistribution of the United States wealth, and quest for absolute power and control has been slowed for the time being. This post has been edited by Todd Simpson: Jun 4 2017, 07:08 PM |
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Jun 4 2017, 07:48 PM
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QUOTE (yoncopin @ Jun 4 2017, 05:59 PM) There is literally no better deal than this, it was non-binding. Meaning, if the USA did absolutely nothing, the penalties were exactly zero. It was basically just a good faith agreement with the rest of the world. The USA gained the greatest benefit in growing our economy via the use of fossil fuels and we're the only ones to now leave the agreement. Withdrawal is just a political stunt, but will do nothing to affect the states decisions, or the economic necessity of striving for cleaner energy. We do want green energy , but not at the cost of US jobs . This is an interview with a founding member/ scientists of Greenpeace offering a different evidence based opinion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDK1aCqqZkQ&t=1540s This post has been edited by jstcrsn: Jun 4 2017, 07:54 PM |
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Jun 4 2017, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE (jstcrsn @ Jun 4 2017, 05:01 PM) I guess that tells me how open for discussion you are . The Scientist was founding scientist for " Green peace " , does that not warrant maybe a short listen . start at 8:50 , and give it 3 minutes ? I'm very open to discussion, but credibility is key. I watched your three minutes and was wholly unconvinced in the premise presented. It is a common counter-argument that we are always in heating/cooling cycles and therefore man plays no part, but that is only a half truth. It's true that the earth's climate does cycle over time, but since 1950 (coinciding with mankind's rising use of fossil fuels) the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere risen sharply.  Secondly, the scientific consensus on climate change being man-made is anywhere from 95-99% That's about as close to certainty as a scientific conclusion gets. Youtubers interviewing the 1% of PhDs that disagree and calling it a scam doesn't meet the rigors of peer reviewed science by a long shot. There will always be dissenters, but that doesn't make them right. A humourous take on CO2 levels --------------------  |
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Jun 4 2017, 11:32 PM
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QUOTE (yoncopin @ Jun 4 2017, 07:02 PM) There's exactly zero chance I'm watching a 45 minute clickbait video where a shock jockey explains science. But, as you can tell from the video title, he is loud. Doesn't that make his opinion correct? -------------------- Cyber-industrial music and video animations:
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Jun 4 2017, 11:48 PM
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Just a friendly reminder that embeded videos never take these discussion to a good place, so please refrain from them.
Your own analysis of the situation is what we want to hear. |
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