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Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 1 2013, 09:38 AM

Howdy Mark!

This here is your personal thread! Let's use it to communicate and work together from now on

Is that Vivaldi track going alright?

Cheerios!

Cosmin

Posted by: Echoshill Mar 1 2013, 03:00 PM

I think well. The piece is not internalized yet, but I am pretty sure I could get through at tempo if if I were to be reading it.

The deal is that while some folks practice to get something right, I practice to never get it wrong. The second way takes a little more time.

I have a history of working pieces like this, but only to a point where my current ability takes me. If that happens to be just shy of the max tempo, I don't continue to push past. That is problematic. Part of my goal in joining here was to have someone to be accountable to.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 2 2013, 02:30 PM

Hey Mark,

Got it I will keep a sharp eye out on your progress and make sure I am the one you fear

Take your time, internalize it and let's see how it turns out - regarding the pushing - is this piece achievable and how close is it to your limits, as you see them right now?

Posted by: Echoshill Mar 3 2013, 03:49 AM

Cosmin,

I am at 80% of 120 BPM now. A few of the sections are a bit more difficult than I had first thought. But I must get pushed through this. 130-140 has been a barrier of mine for a very long time. So this piece, tempo wise, is right at my limit.

I have serious issues when it comes to confidence and taking solos. By all accounts, I do it very well, I am just a total head case when it comes to solos and anxiety. Maybe the worse you will have ever encountered.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 3 2013, 10:03 AM

Can't be that bad mate - it's just a matter of building confidence, I am sure of it Let's see how you fare with this one and then I will give you an assignment based on what you have seen here, which will deal with building a similar sequence of arpeggios over a given chord progression

Posted by: Echoshill Mar 3 2013, 04:20 PM

If you have the time, I would love to know what the process of gaining confidence was llike for you. I think some folks just have, naturally, tons of self confidence (or a bunch of I just don't give a crap) and away they guy. THen there is me.

Back to it.....

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 4 2013, 11:21 PM

Hey mate! I was definitely NOT and still am NOT the 'I don't give a crap' sort of dude It took a long time for me to gain confidence and to be able to leave all fears aside on stage and in front of people. The more I did it and exposed myself, the better it went you know. There are countless adventures and stories that I can tell you, but the one which is most dear to me, is from when I was first going to perform with a philharmonic orchestra and I was dead scared. In that moment, a friend and awesome guitarplayer, told me that I should be happy, as those 4.23 minutes onstage are my private party with the audience and I should be a good host and feel free to enjoy the party with the people that i invited, right? Didn't work out THAT well, but still, I tried to feel like I was at a party

What are you actually scared of man?

Cosmin

Posted by: Echoshill Mar 7 2013, 02:49 AM

Sorry for the delay. I have been in rehearsal all week.

Quite simply, I can not let go of the fear of sounding bad. I have extremely low self esteem and let my music directly effect how I feel about myself. When I play poorly, I feel worse. There you have it.

M

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 7 2013, 08:48 AM

Mate! It seems that someone up there read your post before I did and threw this video in front of my eyes on Facebook Enjoy!

Posted by: Echoshill Mar 7 2013, 09:31 PM

I have done a great deal of reading on this. In particular a book by Ken Werner. I whole heatedly believe that the mind has a HUGE effect on what is possible with music. Especially technically. I assure you Cos, I am working very hard to push those negative thoughts out of my mind. But it is a very bleak movie that has been playing for a very VERY long time.

I am at a wall with the Paganini piece. Most of the sections are clean at 110 however I can not play them at that piece every time without error. It feels right on the ragged edge of my ability. Section 5 (the next to the last one before the pedal tones) is the most difficult by far.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 7 2013, 10:28 PM

I have and read the book by Kenny Werner - amazing one and it helped a BIG LOT!

Mate , it's all within you - first of all, and foremost - playing should be fun - throw faces, sing and all that Do you do that? what's the most fun thing to play for you?

Posted by: Echoshill Mar 8 2013, 04:11 PM

Can I just say that, regardless of what happens with my playing, getting to know you here has been a very positive thing.

I really dig playing for musical theater. But that only happens 4-5 times a year. It is probably because I only have to play what is written so my lack of musical imagination is never exposed. I also enjoy practicing technique because improvement is measurable (or lack of improvement as is my case).

Other than that, my time with the jazz orchestra and my sax/guitar combo are NOTHING that I enjoy. The musicians I play with are so good, and the pieces so tough, that I am hanging on for dear life through the whole tune. I apparently do it ok, but so what?

My heart is in fusion (i.e. Guthrie Govan) and prog metal (i.e. Dream Theater). I would never ever listen to jazz on my own. It just so happens that jazz is what I get paid to play.

Music is not fun for me Cosmin. It is like I do it because I can't. I tell myself it will be fun when my ability increases and it is not so much work.

I feel like I should post a recording of where I am at on your piece just to prove I am working on it. Whatever tempo I can manage.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 8 2013, 05:14 PM

First things first - Thank you man It means a lot if I would know that I would help make such a change in someone's life!

Second - you just answered your biggest question mate - if you don't enjoy what you play, how would you expect it to be fun and to make you feel good, thus improve and strive to improve for the love of it, not for the fear of it

Third - please go ahead!

Cosmin

Posted by: Echoshill Mar 9 2013, 05:44 PM

Here it is Cosmin. This is about 82% of the backing track tempo. I can go a little faster, but not 100% as of yet.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 10 2013, 11:18 AM

Howdy man! I think your picking is accurate and clean as an ensemble, but I feel like the track is very, very, very, almost imperceptibly slightly ahead of you - there is a latency in your playing which is probably occurring due to the fact that you are not mastering it at this speed YET

My advice would be to give it some more time and I would also like to bring another exercise into your attention, so that we may keep things fresh - of course you should practice the Vivaldi, till it gets at speed

What say you: http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Intervals-Etude/

Posted by: Echoshill Mar 11 2013, 03:41 AM

Not sure I understand what you mean with the ensemble comment. Were you just trying to find something nice to say?

That speed is actually really comfortable. I just did not rehearse with the track as much as I should have before I recorded. I'll keep at it.

With regard to the new exercise, why did you choose that exercise? What did you hear or not hear that made you suggest it. Sorry dude, when it comes to allocating practice time to something I don't do anything without knowing why.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 11 2013, 09:08 AM

Hey man I am not trying to say something nice just for the sake of it - but you answered your question again - not practicing against a backing track will always cause minor latencies simply due to the fact that you have to better adapt to that rhythmic context, not to a dry click

Regarding the exercise - it deals with a lot of string crossing and skipping and more awkward left hand positions which is nothing but helpful in your journey on developing picking skills - have you taken a good look over it? Not to mention the idea of phrasing by using various interval shapes in a major scale

Posted by: Echoshill Mar 11 2013, 07:29 PM

Hey Cos,

Yeah I watched the clip. I just wanted to know why you chose that piece in particular. Meaning, did you hear something in one of the sections in winter arps that made you say, ohhhhhh, he needs this.

For example, most of the phrases in the winter piece I could blow way faster than I did. It is just the next to the last before the pedal tonw that REALLY slows me up.

Tell me, when you plateu, what is the process that you go through to ladder up in tempo? Could you describe it in detail?

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 12 2013, 09:53 AM

I chose it because as with the Vivaldi piece, even if it doesn't seem as a particularly difficult piece, it is not simple either It will bring variation - I don't want you to get bored with Vivaldi - and juggling with intervals will always be fun - at least it is for me : )

About plateaus - usually, when I feel like I am stagnating, I leave things to brew a little I simply accept that I need more time to be able to play that and I allocate a little practice time for it in my schedule, but I don't go crazy over it. Time solves everything usually and if you struggle with angry thoughts or let frustration take over, it's not going to work. I focus on other things and come back to that piece constantly and try to observe myself - how much I am moving, how relaxed I am, how synchronized are my hands, which are the spots where I feel less confident with...stuff like that. It's the best to be able to make great use of things which are a natural talent to you - for instance, I am much better with legato than alternate picking and I am all around a far better melodic player rather than a technical one. I won't go crazy because I wasn't built for shredding at 250 BPM - actually I much prefer being creative, expressive and melodic What are your natural strong points?

Posted by: Echoshill Mar 12 2013, 03:03 PM

Cosmin,

Great response. You are patient and have a gift for teaching which is rare among talented players.

Full disclosure, I am just one year back on the instrument after 10 years off. I literally quit for 10 years....why?....well.... at the time when I quit I was able to cover just about everything from satriani, vai, you name it. My legato and economy picking was sick good. Then I heard John Petrucci and his theory on alt picking and I stopped everything to learn the way he did things. HUGE EPIC mistake that I never ever recovered from.

The frustration from not being able to alternate pick like John, combined with other musical frustrations (most that I still have today), made me put the instrument down. It was my wife who asked, are you really willing to throw the next 20 years of playing away because of the last 10 and John Petrucci? So, I picked it up again. About 1 month back after the 10 years off I cold read for the swing jazz band I am in and was immediately accepted to the band. Most of those guys are Masters level musicians with a few DMA thrown in for good measure. I did my first of many musicals shortly there after.

I honestly have no idea what my strengths are. I am ridiculously methodical and my resolve to be good is beyond reproach. I practice only what I can not play. I am diverse in what I am able to play, but I am truly a master at nothing. I guess, above all, I am a very good student. My favorite players are Guthrie (of course) and I really like the new player for Soilwork David Andersson. That cat is sick. Very melodic and technical. Steve Lukather is great as well.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 13 2013, 10:51 AM

Thank you man I feel great to know I can make a change for someone!

Listen, you pointed out a few interesting things:

- you were able to play legato and economy, Satch and Vai stuff, right? - Strong point - those are the techniques that you have a natural ability towards. Develop them to the point in which you can use them at will at any given time!

- you are methodical - use this strength to be organized and achieve great results with minimum input - that means, organizing practice time efficiently and incorporating the newly acquired skills in a musical context. That's why you practice right? To be able to use stuff when making music, not to be like John Petrucci or anybody else.

Mate, being YOUR OWN MUSICAL self is the greatest thing you can achieve, you know? Is John Mayer a mediocre guitarist, because he doesn't alternate pick? I honestly like him more then John Petrucci, because he is not obsessed with technique but strives to make genuine heartfelt music, rather than always trying to showcase his skills, sometimes forcing the context to such a degree, so that he loses my interest after a few tens of seconds of listening.

- you won't practice anything that you can play - this is the biggest faulty thing you can do. There is a Zen teaching, saying 'After you reach the top, keep climbing'

Having these in mind - focus on your natural abilities, while not neglecting the other interests you have in playing, but do not let them rule you - YOU have to be in control

This is my vision and I hope it helps!

Cosmin

Posted by: Echoshill Mar 16 2013, 12:36 AM

85% of the backing track speed.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 16 2013, 11:22 AM

Howdy man

Aside from one missed note, this sounds good to me and I also like the tone - it's more directed towards the oldschool stuff but it fits the context very nicely Have you started the other one as well?

Posted by: Echoshill Mar 17 2013, 03:20 AM

Yeah, if I ever get to meet you in person I am going to bonk you on the head for coming up with that....ha ha ha ha.

I can actually play the separate sections very close to 120bpm. It is when I have to transition between that it gets tricky. You want me to continue with it, correct?

Yes, I have indeed started the second one. It is going very well. Just a lot to memorize.

Thank you Cosmin for pushing me and being so helpful. I still feel that there must be a better way to progress with speed than what I am doing. 3% per week is not very much.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 18 2013, 09:08 AM

Hey mate Hope you don't hate me already for tormenting you with my weird left hand fretboard positions - yes indeed, I want you to continue with it but do not get frustrated, ok? As I said on Facebook, your rhythm is your own and 3% a week Hell man, that's very good! Imagine that after finishing this one, you will have a much more prepared hand for others and that 3% will turn into 6% for other pieces and so on - the more you expose yourself to various exercises (the weirder, the better) the better you become and the faster you will assimilate

I will keep on pushing you, slowly tho

Cosmin

Posted by: Echoshill Mar 18 2013, 03:09 PM

ha ha ha ha.....no worries Cosmin. In the few weeks we have worked together I feel a very VERY positive result in my right hand. It was especially obvious when I improvised. Much much much fewer missed pick attacks. Very good. Let's keep going.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 19 2013, 08:50 AM

Glad to hear that man! Well then, I am looking forward to a take of the other lesson as well

Posted by: Echoshill Mar 26 2013, 09:11 PM

Hey Cosmin,

Hopefully you did not forget about me. I am at 87% on the Winter piece and finally have the entire interval etude memorized and am beginning to build speed. I only have an hour to work on each piece per week so +2-3% in speed is about the best I can manage.

I learned a very valuable lesson on the Winter piece and that is to be very cognizant of efficiency of movement when you are FIRST LEARNING the piece. I found that one of he fingerings I had been using was a real problem when I tried to pick up he tempo. I was forced to "re-learn" a small section which does not sound like much, but it is hard to unlearn something you have been playing for a month.

By the way, if there was a style that I would love to aim for, check out the recent in the style of steve lukather piece. That is everything I want to be in 30 seconds. How do we get there? I learned that piece a week or so back, never got it clean with just the backing, but I am really REALLY close. That is the sort of player I want to be. One thing to learn the solo, entirely another to be able to write and craft in that style.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 27 2013, 09:32 AM

Hey mate, of course I haven't forgotten about you

I thought you took your time to rehearse and work on things and I know how it feels to re-learn something, oh I do!

2-3 % a week is very good judging the difficulty/ complexity of the piece - imagine it took me about 1 year to come up with the whole guitar interpretation for the first movement in 'Winter' and get it set for being played on stage.

Regarding Lukather - hehe, what a great player! I had the honor of meeting him back in 2008 when he came to Romania and he was treating me like he knew me for a lifetime awesome experience!

About his style: he is a very well balanced combo of technique, feel, melody and tasty phrasing and we would have a lot to talk about the subject, but to start out, can you please post the recording of the lesson you are telling me about? In the EXACT state in which you have last recorded it

Cosmin

Posted by: Echoshill Mar 27 2013, 01:48 PM

That makes me feel a lot better about the time it is taking me to learn your piece. I was thinking, crap!!!!!, 2% a week has GOT to be the slowest anyone has ever worked through this thing!

Recording Luke Piece:
Sure thing. I will look to do it on Sunday Afternoon. I am pretty tied up with gigs and rehearsals till then. I have not played it in a week or so, and the runs at the end need a little cleaning up. The timing is a bit funny with them.

BTW - A very close friend I work with (Bogdan Proca) is from Romania. I think he misses home.

M



This is the lesson I was refereing to:

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guitar/steve-lukather-style-lesson/

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 28 2013, 09:42 AM

Hehe, wow, that Luke lesson is so genuine! Muris nailed the style and sound spot on!

I am very curious to see your take man - take your time and focus on each and every detail ok? You can also send greetings to your friend from his mother country, but tell him that it's way better for him to stay there rather than come back here

Posted by: Echoshill Mar 28 2013, 03:14 PM

Putting my take on things is something I always struggle with. For example, there is this bend/tap thing that he does about half way though the piece which is NOT something I would ever do.

Do you stay true to the piece as it is written, or do you put your interpretation on it?

My only concern is that we are adding one more thing to what is now two incomplete pieces (Intervals and winter). It would seem those pieces are not going to be 100% for quite some time......so how do we proceed?

As a mentor, how do you balance pieces that develop technique vs. pieces like the Luke piece.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Mar 29 2013, 08:46 AM

Hey there Well, it's pretty simple - you are currently studying two technique based pieces and one which is based on phrasing but has more of a melodic approach and no connection to the other two. So, diversification is not wrong, by all means it will keep your interest up and if you look into all of them you will see that they push you up on the ladder with various techniques - Alternate picking, tap bending, bending and vibrato.

You can't be stuck to playing 2 pieces for 2 years and ignore life around you because those are incomplete Focus on them but enjoy playing other things as well, otherwise, you will end up asking yourself what happened in the last 2 years?

Usually if I want to acquire a certain concept I will first stay true to the interpretation and when I get it down perfectly, I will add my own ideas to it. I remember doing this since early childhood with... Lego I always used to build the stuff that was in the box - the initial model I mean and then, after a few days, come up with something I thought of combining it with other pieces I had from previous sets and creating my own world I guess it translated later in life...

Looking forward to see what you got so far!

Cosmin

Posted by: Echoshill Apr 3 2013, 01:25 AM

Intervals at about 75%.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Apr 4 2013, 12:29 PM

Aloha there I thought it would be easier to explain things this way

Posted by: Echoshill Apr 4 2013, 08:52 PM

Yup, you are correct with regard to the feel. I blew it.

Your video ran out before your thought finished.

Mark
(Echoshill - Pronounced Echoes Hill) A Dream Theater reference.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Apr 5 2013, 07:31 AM

Howdy Mark! Hope the video shed light on the matter, so please send me a recording at the same tempo, but with the right feel and against a metronome click or the slowed down backing track Do we have a deal, sir?

Posted by: Echoshill Apr 5 2013, 03:38 PM

I was practicing it with the GP file which does not play the triplets very well. It actually sounds like straight 8's even though it is written in trips. I understood what you were getting at though. I worked on it in trips last night. Changing feels at this point is not an easy ting to do. It will be a bit till I get you another recording.

As for the winter arps I am now up to 90%. Baby steps.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Apr 6 2013, 11:45 AM

Indeed man, baby steps is the right way to do it - I'd be curious to see a recording with the triplets at the tempo at which you are right now - what say you?

Posted by: Echoshill Apr 12 2013, 03:31 PM

I don't think you are going to like what I say.

I say that I have struggled for quite some time with the practicality of the size of the pieces we are working on and I am about done with it. I am sure that, over time, they would help my technique, but I am so sick of them that I just can't stand the thought of what it is going to take to get them Winter the last 9%. I am spending hours upon hours on them and I still struggle to find/create meaningful lines over static key centers. Yes, I really want my technique to improve, but it is more important to me that my musicality improves as a result of what we do here. And it isn't.

Heck, last night I tried to solo over a static Am backing track and, though I knew what notes to play, my idea flat sucked and went no where. Creating good musical ideas does not require monster technique. And though I want monster technique, I can't effectively deploy what I have now.

And yes, I know I was supposed to record that Luke piece, but there was more of it left to learn that what I thought so I didn't bother with everything else I had going on .

Not trying to be a tool, just being honest.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Apr 12 2013, 08:10 PM

Mate You are not being a tool

But, write more often and tell me what's on your mind - there's no problem in building your musicality if that's what you want and indeed it won't require as much technique - you told me you wanted to work on AP so I tried to push you into that direction

So, would you like us to push things towards building your creative musical side?

Cosmin

Posted by: Echoshill Apr 13 2013, 02:30 PM

Half way on Luke

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Apr 14 2013, 02:44 PM

Hey mate - sounds good to me so far! I think you have a nice vibrato/ bending technique as well, but take care at that long bend towards the ending - it's a bit out of pitch.

Tell me, would you like to discuss about composing or improvising your own stuff?

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Apr 14 2013, 03:45 PM

I thought you might like this

Posted by: Echoshill Apr 15 2013, 06:54 PM

Thanks for the compliment. I don't write to you more often because I do not wan to be a pain in your butt.

To your question, Amazing compared to what/who?
Good question, but I have no answer. I will offer these thoughts instead.

• I am so busy learning / training, that I NEVER just try to develop an idea for me. Takes too much time (as with Guthrie.....did not know that by the way about that tune you mentioned)
• I have so much to learn that I practice relentlessly. And if I can already play it, it does not get practiced. EVER!
• I need a lot of help on developing motif's and ideas. Typically I will come up with an idea or two that is ok, but I don't know where to go with it. So I just start blowing scales. Which sucks.
• I freeze, or shit my pants and then freeze, when I see a progression that I have to solo over. Even if the key center is static. And if I can not do it with a static key center, there is no hope playing over changes. Trust me, I know every note of every chord in every key cold. But something happens when I have to get it from my head to my hands. (like shitting my pants)

EDIT...I think what you said with regard to ideas sucking fits my case very well. Overly critical...etc..etc.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Apr 15 2013, 09:21 PM

Uh oh, man... Take it easy, the devil is not as black as it may seem I will make another little video for you tomorrow I got some ideas, k?

Here ya go

Posted by: Echoshill Apr 16 2013, 08:53 PM

Ok, lets start this simple.

Send me the backing track you want me to use.

Tell me what mode you want me to use.

I will use one octave of the mode you suggest.

I will improve over the vamp, with the one octave mode for a bit and send it in.

Deal?

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Apr 17 2013, 07:51 AM

Absolutely! How about taking a look here You have all the details for a great musical recipe using the natural major scale and the major pentatonic scale

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=39243&view=findpost&p=565889

What say you?

Cosmin

Posted by: Echoshill Apr 17 2013, 03:08 PM

Dude, you could be talking about 20 different things listed on that page. There are downloads agailable for every mode.

Please just link me to only one backing track, the one you want me to play over. Would also be handy if you told me what chords where in it.

From there I can handle only soloing one octave of the minor mode over it.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Apr 17 2013, 05:20 PM

Hey man, no biggie The link directed you to the exact post that I wanted you to use, but it's no problemmo.

The progression is Cmaj Gmaj Amin Cmaj Emin Fmaj

The modes you can use: C Ionian and C major pentatonic

Let me know if everything is ok

Cosmin

Posted by: Echoshill Apr 17 2013, 07:59 PM

Ooooooohhhh....I re-read your initial post. You wrote "natural Major" and my mind saw "natural minor". Just never heard the major refereed to as natural before.

Sorry dude.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Apr 17 2013, 08:07 PM

uh oh Mate - it's the major scale, you can also call it like that

Posted by: Echoshill Apr 18 2013, 02:55 PM

Cos,

Kept it to one octave save for a note or two. And kept it very slow and deliberate.

I think this sort of exchange is going to be VERY good for me as it will reveal weaknesses in my playing to you (technique and other).

I actually did not hate some of what I played here. Especially toward the end.
Mark

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Apr 19 2013, 08:56 AM

Goodmorning sir! I do believe this is a good start! Here's what I have observed:

- you tend to finish a lot of phrases on the same note - be wary because this creates undesired repetition. Instead I would target various chord tones which are part of the chords you are finishing a phrase on. Even if you stick to one octave, you can avoid this by variating, k?

- I can feel when you are a bit in doubt, because your timing is a little shaky If you dig what I am saying, not wrong but, unsure. You simply don't know where to head next. Am I right?

Now, having these things in mind, try to improvise less and compose more. Spend some time with the backing and come up with more fluid and strong directed phrases, also having in mind the observations above.

Technique wise, I don't have any observations so far, but push yourself out of the comfort zone and I will see what's what

Ready for another one? Don't force yourself to play over the whole backing - use less and it will be much more helpful when you need to compose. Usually, when we have to deal with a big amount of space, the first thought is: 'Oh my, how am I going to fill this in? What am I going to play?'

Cosmin

Posted by: Echoshill Apr 19 2013, 02:41 PM

Are you saying that I start and finish on the same note, or just end on the same note after starting where ever?

Where to head next? Hell, I barely know where to start. My playing lacks conviction in general.

Small space, got it. You sending a new backing or the same one?

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Apr 19 2013, 09:00 PM

Mate, the more you do it, the better Use the same backing - this is the whole idea, to chisel up the ideas you presented taking into account the suggestions. You are finishing on the same note usually, regardless of where you are starting - listen for that and you'll see what I mean

And don't forget, use only a portion of the whole backing in order not to be stifled by its length, ok?

Posted by: Echoshill Apr 24 2013, 06:17 PM

On the practice schedule to work on this tonight. Not sure why I keep avoiding it (was the one thing I skipped from my practice schedule last night).

Posted by: Echoshill Apr 25 2013, 02:10 AM

Take 2.

I only spent a few mins on development because I wanted it to be raw. I sort of like where it is going to tell you the truth.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Apr 25 2013, 09:31 AM

Much better! MUCH MUCH better

It sounds like the solo for a nice tune mate - this is definitely the right direction as I see it Here's what I have in mind:

I will record a phrase over the track, to answer your phrase and then you do the same for my phrase, ok? In this way, we will take turns at inspiring each other for the next thing

Posted by: Echoshill Apr 25 2013, 03:38 PM

Well, I am not sure I would go that far. It is a pretty pedestrian solo. But thanks for trying to be positive.

It literally took me 30 mins to come up with that and record that 30 second deal. I expect to be able to produce more in less time for sure.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Apr 26 2013, 11:07 AM

Mate, don't be hard on yourself! It's musical and it has coherence and direction That's the aim, right? The more you'll do it in a conscious manner, the better you'll become I'll post my musical answer tomorrow so stay tuned

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Apr 30 2013, 05:25 PM

Hey mate here's my phrase

Melodic all the way! Let's keep it like that for the moment and I'd like your answer to have a recurrent theme that should stick to my mind - what say you?