In Memory., Black Sabbath cover.
Gilmore
Dec 28 2008, 03:40 AM
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Hi

This is a cover of a little tune from a 1986 Black Sabbath album Seventh Star. This is a great album, but it was originally supposed to be a Tony Iommi solo project, but the record company insisted he used the famous name. Glen Hughes provides outstanding vocal performance. I higly recommend this album, a hidden gem.

But anyway, I covered this track, In Memory. This is my first project using Sonar 8 Producer and I used EZ drummer for drums and tried to get as close to the original drums as possible, and I think it´s pretty close. Guitar Rig 3 is used for all guitar and bass sounds, the accoustic is a little harsh sounding, but it´s hard to get a good accoustic sound recording only direct line through onboard (Ovation) preamp. The song is a little longer then the original, just to make room for some solos of course. wink.gif


Check it out, both my cover and the original if you can get it, it´s a beautiful song. smile.gif

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Dec 28 2008, 03:59 AM
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Sounds very good playing wise and the drums sound awesome. There is quite a bit of clipping in the mix though.

Back the leaves down some and see what you think.

Very nice composition bro smile.gif

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jer
Dec 28 2008, 04:33 AM
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oh man, I LOVE this song.


Indeed a GREAT album!!!!!

Nicely done. Yeah, the clipping makes it tough listen.

How are you liking Sonar 8? Did you upgrade from 7?

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Dec 28 2008, 09:33 AM
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Very nice !

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Dec 28 2008, 12:48 PM
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Thanks

I like Sonar alot, but it takes a little time getting used to, the user interface is a little tough to learn, not as easy like Cubase, but it´s worth the effort to learn it, many great features, like the 64 bit engine, and it uses multi core tecnology. I did not upgrade from Sonar 7, I was a Cubase user, so Sonar 8 is my first experience.

About the clipping in the mix, I can not export the project in mp3 format, because you have to buy the encoder seperatly, so I exported in Wav format and there were no clipping there. But Wav is too big to upload so I used AVS audio converter to convert from Wav to mp3, and then I got all this clipping and dropouts. I don´t know why that is. :/

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Dec 28 2008, 02:47 PM
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hmmm. I've never heard of that happening...Whats ACS?

7 has the 64bit engine and multi core support as well. Of course I WANT to upgrade to 8 but I dont know if I really will see any benefits.

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Dec 28 2008, 05:45 PM
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Great playing Gilmore. smile.gif

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Thanks skennington. smile.gif

jer: Sonar 8 has no major visual change, but there are some new features, but I´ve never used early versions so I´m not sure if it´s worth upgrading, but it´s always nice to have the latest version. smile.gif


I fixed the clipping, it was not AVS converter´s fault, I just lowered the sliders in Sonar mixer, and it sounds fine now. I adjusted the mixing as well, I think it sounds decent, but what do you guys think, anything you would do different, I´m still not pleased how the accoustic guitar sounds, it stands a litle bit out of the mix. I´m working on my mixing skills, and great to get some feedback. smile.gif



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That sounded very good!!

Perhaps I'd try panning the picked guitar a little to the left, solo guitar seem to be a little bit to the right already. Just to try and see if it gets more roomy, I belive the picked guitar is very much in the middle now.

But I must say I'm impressed by how good all the instruments sound by themselves.

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QUOTE (Gilmore @ Dec 28 2008, 02:03 PM) *
I´m still not pleased how the accoustic guitar sounds, it stands a litle bit out of the mix. I´m working on my mixing skills, and great to get some feedback. smile.gif


Set the gain on your pre-amp about half way and level all of the 3 eq sliders to the middle. find a studio vocal patch in your modeler and you should be able to find a nice clean acoustic tone that you like. smile.gif

Heres a recording I did for Skillet's Santa collab using my Ovation C24 with a studio vocal patch...

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Great playing man, Awesome solo tone, very smooth and defined. The clipping seems a bit weird for how your desrcibing it, Maybe its just due to compression and conversion? Im not sure, but either way. Great job.

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Dec 28 2008, 08:42 PM
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Great advice guys, that´s a great tone on your clip skennington. What modeling are you using?



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QUOTE (Gilmore @ Dec 28 2008, 02:42 PM) *
Great advice guys, that´s a great tone on your clip skennington. What modeling are you using?


Thanks man, I'm using a Toneport UX1 and this one was done with a vocal preset in the Gearbox software.

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Great cover man! You really got the production good...Take Skenningtons advice for acoustic guitar and you'll be there...Production is very natural sounding...

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