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Mar 26 2021, 06:00 PM |
Hello Kris and so instructors.
For all the collabs, workshops etc, I've always improvised my solos, maybe done a few attempts building different things. But improvised for the main part. I'm wondering if a series of lessons might be a good thing concentrating on how to construct/compose a solo following chord changes etc and building into a climax. It could incorporate different note lengths, phrasing, transitions, all sorts of things that go into a good solo. I think by covering all of the element in a structured way, it could also help improvisational skills. Cheers Phil -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Mar 26 2021, 07:08 PM |
Tangential but related ...
Have you ever copied a solo note for note from a recording? This is the best as well as the time honored way of learning how to construct a good solo. *A lesson series on "how to effectively transcribe" is a great idea. -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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Mar 26 2021, 07:43 PM |
Tangential but related ... Have you ever copied a solo note for note from a recording? This is the best as well as the time honored way of learning how to construct a good solo. *A lesson series on "how to effectively transcribe" is a great idea. Thanks Ken, I've only ever transcribed a few things, Adele's vocal on Someone Like You, a few other things and my favourite transcription (not my favourite song though) is the intro in the song below. That's when I realised Mr Weller knows his stuff. My ear is really bad and the only way I could do it was to put them in my DAW and get the first note by slowing that individual note and looping it then worrying it the next one. That's where I found the Weller intro tricky because I could hear that I had the right note, or at least I thought I had but it didn't sound right, neither did a fret above or below, then I discovered the difference between wound strings and plain strings and things like that, and all because Weller uses a lot of the neck from open strings up to the 14th fret (iirc). https://youtu.be/0HMAVU1k7kg Cheers Stay safe -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Mar 26 2021, 07:46 PM |
This is a great suggestion Phil, and Gab and I are actually discussing new series in this very moment.
I think covering the basics for both lead and rhythm is a good idea. |
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Mar 26 2021, 07:57 PM |
I think covering the basics for both lead and rhythm is a good idea. Thanks Kris, My next suggestion in another thread was going to be building a rhythm track, I hear people say things like "bridge", "middle eight" etc and have looked them up on Google, but impingement them and know which chords to use etc is a whole other ball game. Cheers Stay safe Phil This post has been edited by Phil66: Mar 26 2021, 10:02 PM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Mar 26 2021, 09:42 PM |
Thanks Phil for the suggestion! I also think that we need to cover this topic starting with the basics.
This is a great suggestion Phil, and Gab and I are actually discussing new series in this very moment. I think covering the basics for both lead and rhythm is a good idea. Exactly! -------------------- My lessons
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Mar 26 2021, 10:04 PM |
further development on the idea. It could initially be two separate courses to start with, Course A: lead/solo and Course B: Rhythm and then a third course, combining the two. I think it would be a great thing for student to learn how to craft a rhythm and then play lead over it and also a solo somewhere in the middle maybe over a different chord progression.
What do you think? Stay safe. Phil This post has been edited by Phil66: Mar 26 2021, 10:05 PM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Mar 29 2021, 02:14 PM |
further development on the idea. It could initially be two separate courses to start with, Course A: lead/solo and Course B: Rhythm and then a third course, combining the two. I think it would be a great thing for student to learn how to craft a rhythm and then play lead over it and also a solo somewhere in the middle maybe over a different chord progression. What do you think? Stay safe. Phil Yes, this sounds good Phil! Be sure that this stuff is coming. -------------------- My lessons
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Mar 29 2021, 02:35 PM |
Gab's friday night sessions were good where he broke down a band's style and then created similar riffs using the approaches.
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Oct 12 2021, 07:13 AM |
Just gonna go with this in this thread. Got an idea just now for a lesson series: How about a lesson doing a specific melody in style of various guitar players? I.e. presenting a melodic idea and phrase and then showing how Petrucci might play it, Vai, Nick Johnson, Malmsteen, SRV, Joe Pass or whoever you can think of. I find this very interesting but beyond my brain power I'm not saying don't do it, it's a great idea but when you see videos on YT showing how Malmsteen would play Van Halen, etc, it blows my mind how people can work that out. I think Ben Higgins has a couple of those out where he demonstrates how numerous players would play someone else's stuff. It's another level -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Oct 12 2021, 01:53 PM |
EDIT adding another lesson/topic idea. Idea for a lesson or topic at the very least: "Recovering from playing mistakes". I,e you are playing live and play a wrong note or chord and you feel like you lose track of what's happening, how to come in the right place again and so on. Maybe there are some tips and tricks for people. Doesn't have to be a lesson, but it could be somehow... haven't thought it through. I'll check your video out later but that lesson idea is good. I used to really really struggle with this, I always had to go back to the beginning, now I can just pick up again, somewhere in the next few bars but a "Recovery Skills" lesson would be great. I guess you have to really know the piece inside out to be able to jump right back in. Cheers -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Oct 12 2021, 04:28 PM |
I guess you have to really know the piece inside out to be able to jump right back in. Yes, you absolutely need to know every section of the song and be able to play them - out of order - if you want to be able to recover when you make a mistake "live". Notice I didn't say if, I said when. Everybody blows it at least once during a show. The difference between a pro and an amateur is the recovery. Just like sports. So how do you learn a piece so well that you can recover from anything, anywhere? - Be able to visualize and hear all the parts/sections in your head away from your guitar. - If you play another instrument(?), can you reasonably approximate your parts on that instrument. - Sing all the parts. - Know everybody else's part (in a general way). - Play the parts/sections out of order. - Be able to play it all the way through at least 20 times in a row sans a mistake. *Classical musicians, when they're learning a new 'solo' piece (concerto or a sonata) talk about how many times they've played the piece, not how many hours they've practiced. I've mentioned this before but these two books are fantastic ... The Inner Game of Tennis - Timothy Gallwey Zen in the Art of Archery - Eugen Herrigel Do not get the 'watered down for musicians' versions of these. Get the real OG texts. This post has been edited by klasaine: Oct 12 2021, 04:29 PM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/foolin-the-clouds https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/surfin-at-the-country-hop Soundcloud assorted ... https://soundcloud.com/klasaine3 New record ... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kenlasaine Solo Guitar ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...5iIdO2tpgtj25Ke Stuff I'm on ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...b-dhb-4B0KgRY-d |
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Oct 12 2021, 06:33 PM |
If it's a 1 or 2 bar progression and it's going for 32 bars I sometimes end up questioning myself and losing track if I'm at bar 30 or 32 etc. You have to learn to "feel" the symmetry ... because you don't want to actually count (unless you're reading a chart). Being able to feel it comes from a lot of listening and playing. And I mean a lot. -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/foolin-the-clouds https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/surfin-at-the-country-hop Soundcloud assorted ... https://soundcloud.com/klasaine3 New record ... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kenlasaine Solo Guitar ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...5iIdO2tpgtj25Ke Stuff I'm on ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...b-dhb-4B0KgRY-d |
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