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Dec 19 2007, 11:11 AM
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Hey my dear shredders!
There is the thing that keeps interfering with my life-plan which i need help with, so here is the short story: You all know i study at university, 3rd year of Informatics. I love informatics and computers and all that goes with them but i hate my teachers for loads of reasons and one of them is being unprofessional. I have 2 exams left from my 2nd year so now after New Year i am getting into a period of time when i have to finish off all my exams, around 6-7 of them and after that goes the diploma and 2 more years to get a higher degree (just to mention -> the exams are not easy at all and require loads of homework to be done besides just studying). Second part of my life is guitar, playing, practicing, music, GMC and everything related to it. I don't need to tell you about my passion for guitar and music - you all know it from my lessons. Here comes the hard part: my mom wants me to finish off the university and start working a full-time job so i and she don't have to worry about my income, money and my overall life. I agree with her about "not worrying" but i don't agree about the office job from 8 to 16 each day. Now here are the thoughts: maybe i should really quit this whole dream of becoming big guitar player and leave the guitar as my hobby and maybe in the future release a hobby CD, and pursue the IT career? Because these wars with my mom will never end and i am sick of trying to prove her wrong. My dad supports me in my guitar goals but he doesn't live with us and my parents are almost divorced. So i would like to hear some opinions from those who are parents and have their own kids, that would help. If you ask me - i don't know - i doubt about everything right now. Maybe it would be correct to let guitar go for a while, finish off the university, start working and let it flow like that? Please approach this as a "parents to kids" point of view and not like "student -> instructor" point of view. Thanks a bunch! P.S. I respect and love my mom enough to quit playing and let her live in peace and happiness. -------------------- "It isn't how many years you have been playing, it's how many hours." -- Prashant Aswani "PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE!" -- Michael Angelo Batio Check out my video lessons and instructor board! |
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Dec 19 2007, 11:20 AM
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im going to be in the same position as you in a years time so i wouldnt mind seeing some comments here too... although an 8 hour office job isnt too bad, theres still 16 hours left in the day and the human body only needs 6 hours of sleep. so theres 10 hours to go
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Dec 19 2007, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE (Davide @ Dec 19 2007, 11:24 AM)  Hi Pavel, I can imagine how you feel......... and suggestion are okay...... but I think you have to listen to your heart it´s not an easy decision but the right decision if you make a wise one. I wish you anyhow the best.... It's not easy to hear what my heart is saying because of my mom saying her opinion even louder.... -------------------- "It isn't how many years you have been playing, it's how many hours." -- Prashant Aswani "PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE!" -- Michael Angelo Batio Check out my video lessons and instructor board! |
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Dec 19 2007, 11:43 AM
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There is something i have to quit...either guitar playing or GMC
 University is tough, requires a lot of studying and it's impossible to practice that much, study and make lessons and record for GMC - impossible. There are at least 3 more years before i start working - so my problem are these 3 years - i can't keep up with everything. If i want to get a degree this year (i mean summer 2008) i have to just study study and study right now. There is one thing that drives me to more thinking: Rusty Cooley was born in a family of motocross bikers. His dad wanted him to be biker but Rusty sold his bike and bought a guitar. His dad hated him from that day on. But today he's BIG man. Why does it sound so familiar to my case....i'm at the beginning of his story and it already sucks
This post has been edited by Pavel: Dec 19 2007, 11:44 AM -------------------- "It isn't how many years you have been playing, it's how many hours." -- Prashant Aswani "PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE!" -- Michael Angelo Batio Check out my video lessons and instructor board! |
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Dec 19 2007, 12:21 PM
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Hard one
 Main problem today is that we have too choose between more or less "wrong" things, good thing mostly isn't the option,everything is so unsure these days... Which means that we all have to risk here and there. As you said Pavel,keeping your mom happy will make you a bit unhappy,and opposite. Good thing here is that you love IT and computers, tho fax usually "kills" with unnecessary and unneeded things,taking too much of your time. Hard decision indeed,try to follow your heart while going for higher degree, wish you all luck here!! 
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Dec 19 2007, 12:36 PM
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The solution we know usually sucks so it's like not a solution
I was also thinking that way, i mean like: "If i have a job i will be able to build a studio and spend some money on gear and musical stuff..." Will see, will see...
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Dec 19 2007, 01:47 PM
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Look at it this way - concentrating on Uni is not the death of your music ... it will for sure slow everything down as you will spend less time on it, but it is a kind of insurance. If you get your degree, you can still become a full time musician the day after, or you have the option to make music a hobby for a while whilst earning some good money - its all about options, and you do have options - you are already proving to the world that you can make money out of music (look at GMC!) - a lot of aspiring musicians never get to that stage, and you are way above the norm in the skill level that you have.
From my (admittedly much older) perspective, I don't see that you have any problem other than getting through the next couple of years (I'm not minimizing it, but I don't see it as life altering either). In 2 years time you will have a degree, AND you will be a better musician. At that point you have many, many options
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Dec 19 2007, 02:32 PM
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Being able to live from guitar playing I belive is only for a few out of every skilled musician with that dream. It's easier of course if you have your family on your side since without an income you have to rely on them. Even if you would succeed your dream I bet the first years would be very hard on the economy.
However, my stance with my own kids is that I will let them make their choices in life and I will not interfear but I will do everything to make them succeed. I've learned my lesson from being "tactical" myself and heading for an IT career, mostly to get a well payed job. That's where I am today but frankly... I'm so bored with IT I'm counting the years to retirement... little less than 30 to go. If I would have thought less tactical in planning my future I still don't know which way I would have gone but how I have felt for the past years it's definitly about music of some sort, more space for it. So if my kids want to go their ways I will of course tell them that fulfilling their dreams may come at a high cost but never the less if they are happy doing whatever they decide that's more important than a large income. Rather feeding the soul than the wallet is better for yourself, for your happiness. But sadly a steady income is an important fact of life. I can see it from your moms point of view, she sees music business as difficult - which is is - and not a place where to earn money (true for most) My suggestion to you would be to finish your education, it's only a couple of more years. At that point you either go for an IT job or full out musician. If you fail, you always have your education to fall back to. If that would get you off on the wrong foot with your mom think about that it's YOUR life and YOUR choises. When you're 65 and look back on your career I hope you'll find that at least your tried your hardest to do what's best for your own happiness. Because if you go from 25-65 always regretting that second choice that will be hard on you. -------------------- My bands homepage
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Dec 19 2007, 02:42 PM
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QUOTE (Pavel @ Dec 19 2007, 11:11 AM) Hey my dear shredders! There is the thing that keeps interfering with my life-plan which i need help with, so here is the short story: You all know i study at university, 3rd year of Informatics. I love informatics and computers and all that goes with them but i hate my teachers for loads of reasons and one of them is being unprofessional. I have 2 exams left from my 2nd year so now after New Year i am getting into a period of time when i have to finish off all my exams, around 6-7 of them and after that goes the diploma and 2 more years to get a higher degree (just to mention -> the exams are not easy at all and require loads of homework to be done besides just studying). Second part of my life is guitar, playing, practicing, music, GMC and everything related to it. I don't need to tell you about my passion for guitar and music - you all know it from my lessons. Here comes the hard part: my mom wants me to finish off the university and start working a full-time job so i and she don't have to worry about my income, money and my overall life. I agree with her about "not worrying" but i don't agree about the office job from 8 to 16 each day. Now here are the thoughts: maybe i should really quit this whole dream of becoming big guitar player and leave the guitar as my hobby and maybe in the future release a hobby CD, and pursue the IT career? Because these wars with my mom will never end and i am sick of trying to prove her wrong. My dad supports me in my guitar goals but he doesn't live with us and my parents are almost divorced. So i would like to hear some opinions from those who are parents and have their own kids, that would help. If you ask me - i don't know - i doubt about everything right now. Maybe it would be correct to let guitar go for a while, finish off the university, start working and let it flow like that? Please approach this as a "parents to kids" point of view and not like "student -> instructor" point of view. Thanks a bunch! P.S. I respect and love my mom enough to quit playing and let her live in peace and happiness. Man let me ask you a question. Are you aware that the time that has passed from the moment when you initialised this thread and the point in time where we are now will NEVER come back? DOes that tell you something man? THink about it. Life is too short, you shouldn`t be worried so much about things. Everything is realtive. If you do pursue you IT careed (btw I am pursuing that carrer also and understand you fully) you will slowly get better and better in it and guitar will become "second best". AFter a while you wil see that that isn`t such a bad thing like you are thinking today. I must say that your mom is right. Havnig a steady job is a must, excpecially in IT industry. But you can work other things besides job, when you find the time. Off course you can`t do them very good but hey, you can`t be good at everything in life if know what I mean It is not so big deal, so don`t worry so much. Go on classes, do your exams, play your guitar WHEN you have the time, and it will all roll well. It always does. Just don`t worry cause it is not worth it.Worrying does NOT make you a better IT expert OR a better player.Oh, and you can always do some gigging, playing and recording even when you get a job. My singer is doing his job, and manges to go on gigs, practise, see girls and everything  PLAN THINGS!
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Dec 19 2007, 03:04 PM
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Alright, lots of things to think about here...thanks for your posts! Really appreciate it
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