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Posted by: tonymiro Aug 23 2007, 01:28 AM

Thought I'd post a track that people might like to have a go at soloing over. It's a jazz progression in C major based on the common I VI II V I run. In this case the chords are CM7, Am9, Am7, Dm9, Dm7, G9, Dm6/9 (or G13 with no root), Bb9, Fm6/9 (Bb13 no root) and CM7. 4 bars of I, 4 of VI, 4 II and 2 of V plus 2 of I before it loops. First CM7 uses two different voicings of the M7th, one with the B as the upper note (as an Em triad over C bass) and one as the standard 8th position CM7. Standard 4/4 in 122 bpm.

For soloing - in jazz you follow the chord progression and accent the important notes of the chord or melody to pull out the harmonic progression. So try not to stay with one scale/arpeggio but experiment and see what works - look at Andrew's theory pages if you're not too sure.

Apologies I recorded straight in to the pc so the tone is flat and there are no effects/distortion - just a clean semi, fingerpicked. Level is low - tends to be how I record - I hate digital distortion. There are a couple of minor jumps where I had to pause whilst recording as my wife/daughter wanted immediate attention, hopefully they won't put you off. (I'm not great at 'drop in' recording.)

Last few bits -

a) Collaboration is open to any who want to have a go.
cool.gif Apologies as I don't have the time to mix your work so you will need to do a merged backing/solo track for up load if you want feedback. (Unless someone wants to volunteer to do the mix...)
c) Feedback - I'm a great believer in peer review so if you post then anyone can comment - so long as it's constructive smile.gif . Hopefully with peer review more of us might get actively involved in the collaboration smile.gif

Breaking news - I've twisted Andrew's arm (don't worry he can still play smile.gif ) and he has very kindly agreed to try to add drums and bass to the backing for me. What a nice man smile.gif .

The GMC file has Andrew's backing bass and drums added (thanks Andrew - you're a star).

Cheers,
Tony

 jazzprogression.mp3 ( 507.39K ) : 370
 GMC_Jazz_Collaboration.mp3 ( 607.79K ) : 263
 

Posted by: MickeM Aug 23 2007, 01:50 AM

QUOTE (tonymiro @ Aug 23 2007, 02:28 AM) *
Thought I'd post a track that people might like to have a go at soloing over. It's a jazz progression in C major based on the common I VI II V I run. In this case the chords are CM7, Am9, Am7, Dm9, Dm7, G9, Dm6/9 (or G13 with no root), Bb9, Fm6/9 (Bb13 no root) and CM7. 4 bars of I, 4 of VI, 4 II and 2 of V plus 2 of II before it loops. First CM7 uses two different voicings of the M7th, one with the B as the upper note (as an Em triad over C bass) and one as the standard 8th position CM7. Standard 4/4 in 122 bpm.

For soloing - in jazz you follow the chord progression and accent the important notes of the chord or melody to pull out the harmonic progression. So try not to stay with one scale/arpeggio but experiment and see what works - look at Andrew's theory pages if you're not too sure.

Apologies I recorded straight in to the pc so the tone is flat and there are no effects/distortion - just a clean semi, fingerpicked. Level is low - tends to be how I record - I hate digital distortion. There are a couple of minor jumps where I had to pause whilst recording as my wife/daughter wanted immediate attention, hopefully they won't put you off. (I'm not great at 'drop in' recording.)

Last few bits -

a) Collaboration is open to any who want to have a go.
cool.gif Apologies as I don't have the time to mix your work so you will need to do a merged backing/solo track for up load if you want feedback. (Unless someone wants to volunteer to do the mix...)
c) Feedback - I'm a great believer in peer review so if you post then anyone can comment - so long as it's constructive smile.gif . Hopefully with peer review more of us might get actively involved in the collaboration smile.gif

Cheers,
Tony

When do you want it to be finished? Concidering I'm in two now already this would make three.
And I'm a complete beginner at jazz so I could use the extra time for that matter aswell. it's great opportunity for me to catch up on something new.

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Aug 23 2007, 01:54 AM

QUOTE (MickeM @ Aug 22 2007, 08:50 PM) *
When do you want it to be finished? Concidering I'm in two now already this would make three.
And I'm a complete beginner at jazz so I could use the extra time for that matter aswell. it's great opportunity for me to catch up on something new.


Same - I'd love to do this but will need a little while to work on it ...

Posted by: tonymiro Aug 23 2007, 02:07 AM

QUOTE (Francis Viviers @ Aug 22 2007, 11:43 AM) *
Okay so ive pimped my vintage strat. Now to move on to my ibanez.



What pickups would you guys reccommend i put in. This will turn into my metal/shredding guitar at some point.


No rush - I'm not thinking at the moment about a closing date that's soon so as to give as many a chance that want to have a go. I'll nominally set a close for XMas 2007 just so it isn't too open ended.

So just post when you have something you like guys.

Cheers,
Tony

Now how did Francis' Ibanez get there laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif .

Cheers,
Tony

Posted by: MickeM Aug 23 2007, 02:31 AM

Thanks mate, count me in!

Hmm, that picture has now become your signature and you can never get rid of it. :-D

Posted by: tonymiro Aug 23 2007, 02:35 AM

QUOTE (MickeM @ Aug 22 2007, 07:31 PM) *
Thanks mate, count me in!

Hmm, that picture has now become your signature and you can never get rid of it. :-D


Arrgh no! - I'll have to go off and live in a barrel in the dessert like the hermit (Diogenies?) as a penance to Gibson.

Cheers (and fond farewell as I look for a barrel),

Tony

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Aug 23 2007, 02:49 AM

QUOTE (tonymiro @ Aug 22 2007, 08:28 PM) *
Breaking news - I've twisted Andrew's arm (don't worry he can still play smile.gif ) and he has very kindly agreed to try to add drums and bass to the backing for me. What a nice man smile.gif .

Cheers,
Tony


It still stings a bit though ....

Ok, guys get practicing with Tony's version, and I'll record a new version over the next day or two to actually record to, and I will also mix a finished version on Tony's behalf ... he's got me running around after him, how'd he do that ???

Posted by: benhowell Aug 23 2007, 04:16 AM

Im up for that ofcourse biggrin.gif

-Ben

Posted by: tonymiro Aug 23 2007, 05:40 AM

Nice one Ben smile.gif .

And thanks again Andrew - appreciated.

It must be my winning personality - or the Chinese Burn I applied to your forearm tongue.gif . Now can you help me build a house by any chance?

Cheers,
Tony

ps yet again GMC proves itself to be such a great community!

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Aug 23 2007, 05:49 AM

QUOTE (tonymiro @ Aug 23 2007, 12:40 AM) *
Now can you help me build a house by any chance?


If you'd seenmy attempts to figure out how to build a case for my amp at the weekend you wouldn't ask that question biggrin.gif Lets just say wonky and leave it at that ...

Posted by: tonymiro Aug 23 2007, 07:12 AM

laugh.gif
Our builders gave us 1 week's grace to produce scale drawings after their architect quit the job - baptism of fire
blink.gif .

Not sure why we now have a 2 foot high door and a toilet only a giant could use though rolleyes.gif .

Cheers,
Tony

Posted by: Robin Aug 23 2007, 09:18 PM

Is there room for me?

I'm not really a jazz player, so I suppose it will sound very bluesy smile.gif I have been playing Take Five, so I have some ideas how to make it more jazzy.

Edit: Nevermind, I'm not good enough to do this yet tongue.gif

Posted by: tonymiro Aug 24 2007, 03:52 AM

Have a go anyway Robin if you want - can't hurt biggrin.gif . Robben Ford - a great player of the blues does lovely stuff by incorporating jazz ideas.

Cheers,
Tony

Posted by: benhowell Aug 24 2007, 03:55 AM

QUOTE (Robin @ Aug 23 2007, 09:18 PM) *
Is there room for me?

I'm not really a jazz player, so I suppose it will sound very bluesy smile.gif I have been playing Take Five, so I have some ideas how to make it more jazzy.

Edit: Nevermind, I'm not good enough to do this yet tongue.gif



Indeed Tony.

Try it Robin, you might enjoy it? biggrin.gif

-Ben

Posted by: Robin Aug 24 2007, 07:15 AM

Hmm, well if theres room I guess I can give it a try smile.gif

But I do need some pointers of what scales I can use over wich chords. Maybe I should read Andrews theory lesson about it?

Posted by: tonymiro Aug 24 2007, 09:43 AM

Hi Robin,
Andrew's theory is a great place to start.

One possibility is to look at it modally and as it's principally in C Major you might want to check the relevant modes for the particular chords in the progression. To jazz it up here look at the melodic and harmonic minor modes and pentatonic subs as well. Don't aim at playing the entire mode over a chord, pick out key tones and maybe consider sequencing the mode. (Most chords have 4 bars so there is time to do this if you want to...)

Apart from modal playing a few other things maybe worth looking at but not necessary for a good solo include (although I'm going to ask questions as well for people to think about smile.gif ):

Chord voicings - With extended chords would you play notes that emphasise the root, 3rd, 5th or the extension or what. Also similar/same chords that are inverted. First few bars are CM7 but the top note moves between G(5th of C) and B (7th) do you make something of this or not? Do you want to leave space in your solo, if at all, so that this can be heard?

Arpeggios - consider the arps for CM7 etc. and perhaps use them to sequence or emphasise the key tonalities of the chords.

Harmonic progression. In the chord progression there are also certain notes that move and some that stay static over more than one chord. How do notes move and why? What are the intervals involved in the movements?

Chord names - most of these chords have several names. Changing the name can get you to think about the progression, what mode/scale and so on to use differently. For instance the m6/9s towards the end can also be named as different extended dominant chords and also as m7b5s. These imply (to me) different modal possibilites and different arps as well as different possible directions that the chord progression could move in.

Polytonal chords/stacked triads. Some of the chords can be thought of this way (for instance the M7s and the m9s). What are the two triads in each case and how can that give you a different take on the solo?

Possible modulations (key changes) - the progression pretty much remains in C Major but towards the end there are a couple of modulations that are implied but not executed (mainly as a dominant 7th cycle through implied II V I modulations). I resolved it to CM7 to keep things simple but bars 15 and 16 could have modulated...

'Outside' playing - what chromatics/passing tones can be used? What notes lie outside the scalar or modality suggested and how might you use them?

As ever think about phrasing and articulation - legato and alt picking maybe more than sweep (though Gambale fans might argue otherwise laugh.gif ). With the high notes in some of the chords think about space and silence. It's not how fast or how many notes that count here as to which notes you use and which you leave out/suggest.

Don't worry or be put off if that's too much theory to take in - you can get a lot of the above right by playing with feel and listening to the progression and playing what you find works. You also don't need to use all of it - or even any of it. Loads of players don't do polytonal chord theory consciously and are none the worse for it (and I'm not even going to start on what D Torn calls scalar interpolation blink.gif maybe overly theoretical blink.gif ).

Theory just explains things and maybe suggests different approaches (hides in case Andrew hears me say that laugh.gif ). The main thing is be musical and let your ears guide you. Don't be afraid to experiment and try things out - there's time enough.

Main/most important bit though is to have fun.

Cheers,
Tony

Posted by: tonymiro Aug 24 2007, 09:57 AM

Sorry btw for such a long post Robin. Not sure where you stand theory wise so I thought I'd try to cover something for most people.

Cheers,
Tony

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Aug 24 2007, 10:48 AM

QUOTE (tonymiro @ Aug 24 2007, 04:43 AM) *
Theory just explains things and maybe suggests different approaches (hides in case Andrew hears me say that laugh.gif ).


Who said that ?????

Actually, I quite agree - I have gone on record many times as saying most theory is justification for what sounds cool, and that is the final arbiter, not the theory itself. If you make something up that sounds great but breaks all the rules of theory ... well, we'll just invent some new theory to cover it smile.gif

"A wise man knows the limits of his craft" - sounds like confucious could have said that, but I just made it up smile.gif

BTW, the backing track will be another day or so - I had mouse failure this evening and got nothing done sad.gif

Posted by: AudunESP Aug 24 2007, 11:55 PM

let me guess, im late again? laugh.gif
if its place for me, ill give it a try smile.gif
edit- oops overlooked something, ill give it a try

Posted by: tonymiro Aug 25 2007, 12:09 AM

Of course you're in AudunESP biggrin.gif . Look forward to the contribution mate.

Cheers,
Tony

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Aug 30 2007, 09:36 AM

Ok, it took me a while but here is the backing track ...

Tony, let me know if this was what you intended, if not I can re-record.

 GMC_Jazz_Collaboration.mp3 ( 603.66K ) : 145
 

Posted by: tonymiro Sep 3 2007, 10:12 PM

Knock out Andrew biggrin.gif . Wonderful and thanks for helping = appreciated.

Cheers,
Tony

Posted by: MickeM Sep 3 2007, 10:36 PM

Tony, here it's still chaos.

My excuses for not being finished:
* Project end this week at my work
* I'm hunting the builders down to have them finish what they started. They should have been finished two weeks ago but when they promised that they finish the rest at no cost... and all of a sudden they don't show up. unsure.gif Small stuff in left in the bathroom and a tiny bit of carpentry.
* What remains after that I'm doing myself

So I have a full scedule so to say. This collaboration of course has the HIGEST priority, it's just that a few other things have a little higher priority than that.

Just wait for it or sack me I it can't wait biggrin.gif I understand you have to get it finished so if you want to exchange me it's cool. smile.gif

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Sep 4 2007, 12:07 AM

Heh, I had trouble finding time to put the backing track together, haven't even begun to think about a solo yet, I will definitely tab this one out., and it will take me a while, so I sens that this will be a laid back and long term collaboration smile.gif

Posted by: tonymiro Sep 4 2007, 12:11 AM

No rush MickeM,
collaboration is open for ages yet.

I have similar problems with builders here btw so can empathise with you on that one tongue.gif . Odd bit - we've been trying to pay our electrician for three weeks now and he keeps on not turning up to get his money laugh.gif .
Think I must have scared him as we said there were a few minor snagging bits left for him to sort out rolleyes.gif .

Cheers,
Tony

ps - shoot me if I ever say I will build a house from scratch again blink.gif .

Posted by: Robin Sep 4 2007, 12:14 AM

I wont have my computer/recording gear for a few weeks >_< so I cant record anything either, not yet atleast.

Posted by: KRmachine Sep 9 2007, 10:35 PM

In on this, seems like a great opportunity to solidify my theoretic knowledge.

Posted by: tonymiro Sep 10 2007, 05:30 AM

No rush Robin - plenty of time left yet. And hi KRmachine - enjoy.

Cheers,
Tony

Posted by: coffeeman Sep 24 2007, 12:08 PM

Hi,

Is this collaboration still runing? I want to participate.....

Posted by: tonymiro Sep 24 2007, 05:06 PM

Sure is Coffeeman - welcome. (It's open til XMas.)

Cheers,
Tony

Posted by: muris Sep 24 2007, 11:09 PM

Wow,Andrew provided lovely Backing,think I'm gonna hit few notes!! smile.gif

Posted by: muris Sep 24 2007, 11:54 PM

Ok,here's my shot. smile.gif

If it's ok Tony,I'll provide it without backing track as well.

 Jazz_in_C_Muris.mp3 ( 828.35K ) : 242

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Sep 25 2007, 12:52 AM

QUOTE (muris @ Sep 24 2007, 06:54 PM) *
Ok,here's my shot. smile.gif

If it's ok Tony,I'll provide it without backing track as well.

 Jazz_in_C_Muris.mp3 ( 828.35K ) : 242


Muris, you make me sick!

(But in a good way biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif )

That was cool, but I'm going to make it my mission to find a style Muris can't play smile.gif

Posted by: muris Sep 25 2007, 01:16 AM

QUOTE (Andrew Cockburn @ Sep 25 2007, 01:52 AM) *
Muris, you make me sick!

(But in a good way biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif )

That was cool, but I'm going to make it my mission to find a style Muris can't play smile.gif


Thanks Andrew,glad you like it. smile.gif

About style..it's probably some techno,electro,hip-hop. laugh.gif

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Sep 25 2007, 02:02 AM

QUOTE (muris @ Sep 24 2007, 08:16 PM) *
Thanks Andrew,glad you like it. smile.gif

About style..it's probably some techno,electro,hip-hop. laugh.gif


Hmm, ok, can;t see me starting a hip hop collaboration ... you have impeccable taste AND great technique smile.gif

Posted by: muris Sep 25 2007, 02:08 AM

Was joking but thanks Andrew! smile.gif

I'm not sure how good I am in some styles but I try to do my best,
it's just that I don't like to be a prisoner of one thing/style. smile.gif
And this Jazz collab is great really,looking forward to more participants!!

Posted by: tonymiro Sep 25 2007, 02:24 AM

So if you were joking does that mean you can do techno, electro and hip hop Muris blink.gif smile.gif laugh.gif .

Cheers,
Tony

Andrew any tips on great knock back phrases for Muris' collab laugh.gif

Posted by: tonymiro Sep 27 2007, 04:57 PM

QUOTE (muris @ Sep 24 2007, 04:54 PM) *
Ok,here's my shot. smile.gif

If it's ok Tony,I'll provide it without backing track as well.

 Jazz_in_C_Muris.mp3 ( 828.35K ) : 242


Oops should have said yes Muris smile.gif.

BTW - any objections when you do if I maybe use it to try to illustrate some stuff about recording?

Cheers,
Tony

Posted by: muris Sep 27 2007, 06:15 PM

QUOTE (tonymiro @ Sep 27 2007, 05:57 PM) *
Oops should have said yes Muris smile.gif.

BTW - any objections when you do if I maybe use it to try to illustrate some stuff about recording?

Cheers,
Tony



Ok Tony smile.gif

So if I got it right,you want me to write about how I recorded it and few things about what I played?

Posted by: tonymiro Sep 27 2007, 07:23 PM

QUOTE (muris @ Sep 27 2007, 11:15 AM) *
Ok Tony smile.gif

So if I got it right,you want me to write about how I recorded it and few things about what I played?


Not quite Muris - what I'd like to do is use it, if I get the time and you are happy with this, to maybe illustrate bits of the two compression and eq lessons on those two recording sub forum effects threads I posted.
(If that makes sense.)


Cheers,
Tony

but by all means do tell us how you recorded it smile.gif

and analyse the solo as well biggrin.gif

Posted by: muris Sep 28 2007, 12:11 AM

Ahh,you know my english sucks as hell Tony laugh.gif
Ok,what I did is that I plugged my guitar into Pandora,than with stereo cable in PC.
Card is E-MU 1820m which is semi-pro imo.
And I used Reaper to record along with BT you provided here.

And solo. smile.gif
Mostly I was moving around C major(A minor) scale and pentatonic scale,
with chromatic adds-on below or above desired note.
And there is one OUT over G 7/+5 where I played pieces of C# scale.
Combined with this G chord it smells like semi-whole tone scale.
Not nuclear physic tho. smile.gif

Posted by: tonymiro Sep 28 2007, 05:54 AM

QUOTE (muris @ Sep 27 2007, 05:11 PM) *
Ahh,you know my english sucks as hell Tony laugh.gif
Ok,what I did is that I plugged my guitar into Pandora,than with stereo cable in PC.
Card is E-MU 1820m which is semi-pro imo.
And I used Reaper to record along with BT you provided here.

And solo. smile.gif
Mostly I was moving around C major(A minor) scale and pentatonic scale,
with chromatic adds-on below or above desired note.
And there is one OUT over G 7/+5 where I played pieces of C# scale.
Combined with this G chord it smells like semi-whole tone scale.
Not nuclear physic tho. smile.gif


Nope - better than nuclear physics Muris.

BTW - particularly liked the outside C sharp fragments - I always liked that sort of cool sound. Nice double stops. All chromatics? thought some sounded as neighbour tones but can't say I've listened rigourously enough to be sure.

Cheers,
Tony

Posted by: muris Sep 28 2007, 06:40 AM

QUOTE (tonymiro @ Sep 28 2007, 06:54 AM) *
Nope - better than nuclear physics Muris.

BTW - particularly liked the outside C sharp fragments - I always liked that sort of cool sound. Nice double stops. All chromatics? thought some sounded as neighbour tones but can't say I've listened rigourously enough to be sure.

Cheers,
Tony


Well,if we have scale of 7 notes and add chromatic to connect them all,
every add one is neighbour tone indeed,either above or below of something. smile.gif

Posted by: tonymiro Sep 28 2007, 06:56 AM

Very true - I'm just being pedantic Muris (nothing new there wink.gif ). All chromatics are neighbouring tones but not all neighbouring tones are chromatics wink.gif smile.gif .

Regardless of me being a pedant it's a great solo both feel and stylistically.

Cheers,
Tony




(I'm just desperately hunting around to offer you something by way of constructive critique when the time comes blink.gif . I need to say something like 'Very good but you need to think about X.' Not an easy one to find gaps in mate - you could have thought about poor me the critic and made my life easy and fluffed the solo rather then acing it wink.gif unsure.gif tongue.gif )

Posted by: muris Sep 28 2007, 07:03 AM

laugh.gif laugh.gif
You are always the same Tony,smart and funny!
Did I say,glad you have you here! smile.gif

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Sep 28 2007, 07:45 AM

QUOTE (tonymiro @ Sep 28 2007, 01:56 AM) *
(I'm just desperately hunting around to offer you something by way of constructive critique when the time comes


Make stuff up - thats what DaveW and I had to do on our collaborations wink.gif

Posted by: tonymiro Sep 28 2007, 08:15 AM

QUOTE (Andrew Cockburn @ Sep 28 2007, 12:45 AM) *
Make stuff up - thats what DaveW and I had to do on our collaborations wink.gif


Mwahahahaha - sure will (now where's the icon for an evil grin when I need it?)

Cheers,
Tony

Posted by: muris Sep 28 2007, 08:58 AM

I'll diminish then laugh.gif

Here's track without backing wink.gif

 Jazz_in_C_Muris_No_BT.mp3 ( 836.3K ) : 232

Posted by: tonymiro Sep 28 2007, 05:35 PM

Thanks Muris - really appreciate it smile.gif .
Cheers,
Tony

Posted by: muris Nov 10 2007, 11:23 AM

Is this possible,no more players????? ohmy.gif

Posted by: tonymiro Nov 10 2007, 06:19 PM

Thanks Muris for asking,

Yes there is still time guys - collaboration piece are needed by Xmas day so you still have a little over a month. Could be good for people who've practicings Ben's Jazz lessons, improvising and modes smile.gif

Cheers,
Tony

Posted by: exorcyze Nov 10 2007, 11:57 PM

Wow, somehow this slipped under my radar. Just have to say Muris that was awesome, I really like the way you captured the jazz vibe with that! o.O;

Posted by: muris Nov 11 2007, 12:05 AM

QUOTE (exorcyze @ Nov 10 2007, 11:57 PM) *
Wow, somehow this slipped under my radar. Just have to say Muris that was awesome, I really like the way you captured the jazz vibe with that! o.O;


Thanks! smile.gif

Would you give it a try as well?

Posted by: eddiecat Nov 12 2007, 07:16 PM

Hello everyone!
Got back from a week of just metronome practicing and Cubase experimenting!
Too bad I'm still stuck in boxes and shape thinking... mad.gif
Do you mind if I try seomething here?
Cheers!

Tony, congrats on your promotion, you really deserved it! smile.gif

Posted by: tonymiro Nov 12 2007, 08:17 PM

Of course you can Eddy. And thanks for the good wishes.

Cheers,
Tony

Posted by: eddiecat Nov 12 2007, 11:02 PM

Hi Tony! Here's my effort...
I am far too behind to think of the chords while playing, as you know I'm still stuck in boxes! mad.gif
So what I did was just to try to play the melody that came to my mind, as Muris always suggests.
Hope it's ok, at least I gave it a try! unsure.gif
Cheers! Eddie  Progression_in_C.mp3 ( 416.84K ) : 180

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Nov 12 2007, 11:05 PM

QUOTE (eddiecat @ Nov 12 2007, 05:02 PM) *
Hi Tony! Here's my effort...
I am far too behind to think of the chords while playing, as you know I'm still stuck in boxes! mad.gif
So what I did was just to try to play the melody that came to my mind, as Muris always suggests.
Hope it's ok, at least I gave it a try! unsure.gif
Cheers! Eddie  Progression_in_C.mp3 ( 416.84K ) : 180


Very nice indeed Eddie smile.gif I'll have to get mine going now ...

Posted by: eddiecat Nov 12 2007, 11:07 PM

QUOTE (Andrew Cockburn @ Nov 12 2007, 11:05 PM) *
Very nice indeed Eddie smile.gif I'll have to get mine going now ...


Thank you!
And thank you once again for your GREAT Theory Board!

Posted by: PlayAllDay Nov 12 2007, 11:28 PM

This is such a sweet backing - I will have a go too if there's still room?? smile.gif

Posted by: muris Nov 13 2007, 12:29 AM

QUOTE (eddiecat @ Nov 12 2007, 11:02 PM) *
Hi Tony! Here's my effort...
I am far too behind to think of the chords while playing, as you know I'm still stuck in boxes! mad.gif
So what I did was just to try to play the melody that came to my mind, as Muris always suggests.
Hope it's ok, at least I gave it a try! unsure.gif
Cheers! Eddie  Progression_in_C.mp3 ( 416.84K ) : 180



Lovely take Eddie!!!
I mean,3 months of playing,you're making me really proud,BRAVO!!! smile.gif

Posted by: eddiecat Nov 13 2007, 12:59 AM

QUOTE (muris @ Nov 13 2007, 12:29 AM) *
Lovely take Eddie!!!
I mean,3 months of playing,you're making me really proud,BRAVO!!! smile.gif


THANK YOU!!!
Feels great to have a passion blooming from day to day in me!
Well... I still don't understand most of the stuff I do,
but I'll grasp it someday.

Bye, and thank you again.

Posted by: tonymiro Nov 13 2007, 01:23 AM

QUOTE (PlayAllDay @ Nov 12 2007, 04:28 PM) *
This is such a sweet backing - I will have a go too if there's still room?? smile.gif



Sure there is PlayAllDay. Only restriction is closing date of End December smile.gif . BAcking is a joint Miro-Cockburn Production so Andrew deserves the credit smile.gif .

Cheers,
Tony

Posted by: PlayAllDay Nov 13 2007, 12:21 PM

QUOTE (muris @ Nov 13 2007, 08:29 AM) *
Lovely take Eddie!!!
I mean,3 months of playing,you're making me really proud,BRAVO!!! smile.gif


WOW! 3 months Eddie - that's amazing!! ohmy.gif Really great!

I've never uploaded before - do I just add my recording as an attachment?
Also I can't save the backing to my computer to record it for some reason - how does that work then?
I can find a way round it wink.gif but I just wondered if that was normal?

Posted by: tonymiro Nov 13 2007, 06:31 PM

Yes just save your file as an attachment PlayAllDay - if you can two files, one just you and the other you plus the backing. You should just be able to download the file and save to disc as you would any mp3. Works ok here so I'm not sure why yours doesn't sad.gif .

Cheers,
Tony

Posted by: PlayAllDay Nov 13 2007, 08:49 PM

Thanks Tony - I finally figured it out - well, sort of...
I can download these mp3's if I use Explorer but not if I log in on Firefox. Wierd and I don't know why... huh.gif blink.gif rolleyes.gif

Posted by: muris Nov 13 2007, 09:16 PM

I'm on Firefox as well and no problems for me blink.gif
Have you used "Save As" option?

Posted by: PlayAllDay Nov 13 2007, 10:00 PM

Yes - when I do that it tries to save it as an index.php which is odd blink.gif
Lucky I have IE biggrin.gif

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Nov 13 2007, 10:08 PM

QUOTE (PlayAllDay @ Nov 13 2007, 04:00 PM) *
Yes - when I do that it tries to save it as an index.php which is odd blink.gif
Lucky I have IE biggrin.gif


So its working, it just has a messed up name - change that name to anything as long as it has ".mp3" on the end and it will work fine.

Posted by: muris Nov 13 2007, 10:18 PM

Yeah,rename .php into .mp3,shall work fine wink.gif

Posted by: tonymiro Nov 13 2007, 10:51 PM

QUOTE (PlayAllDay @ Nov 13 2007, 03:00 PM) *
Lucky I have IE biggrin.gif


Not sure I'd say it's lucky to have IE wink.gif tongue.gif smile.gif

Posted by: PlayAllDay Nov 13 2007, 10:55 PM

biggrin.gif Thanks Muris and Andrew - you are certainly boys with brains!
It worked!

Posted by: Muris Nov 13 2007, 10:55 PM

Great,now give us some Jazzzzzzzzz wink.gif

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Nov 13 2007, 11:18 PM

QUOTE (Muris @ Nov 13 2007, 04:55 PM) *
Great,now give us some Jazzzzzzzzz wink.gif


biggrin.gif

Posted by: tonymiro Nov 14 2007, 12:16 AM

QUOTE (Muris @ Nov 13 2007, 03:55 PM) *
Great,now give us some Jazzzzzzzzz wink.gif (Edit: Tony cool.gif ) Ddddaaadddiiiooo


Hope you all noticed that Muris put on a black polo neck jumper, checked trousers and a beret before he said that. Not only can the man play and feel the jazz vibe but he has the class to live it tongue.gif .

Cheers,
Tony

Posted by: Muris Nov 14 2007, 04:43 AM

QUOTE (tonymiro @ Nov 14 2007, 12:16 AM) *
Hope you all noticed that Muris put on a black polo neck jumper, checked trousers and a beret before he said that. Not only can the man play and feel the jazz vibe but he has the class to live it tongue.gif .

Cheers,
Tony


Sounds like gerila fighter laugh.gif

Posted by: eddiecat Nov 19 2007, 04:24 PM

Hi Tony, any suggestions?
Did you like my "burrito" attempt?
Can't wait to come and see you with Muris
and chat over a nice Paella!!!!
Have a lovely evening! smile.gif
Cheers, Eddie

BTW, thank you to everyone who posted those nice and encouraging comments!!!
See ya!

Posted by: tonymiro Nov 19 2007, 05:35 PM

Hi Eddie,
I'm trying to hold off from commenting until all the submissions are in m8 smile.gif . Hope you don't mind.

Cheers,
Tony

Posted by: coffeeman Nov 23 2007, 05:21 AM

Here is my first attempmt, I just want to hear your opinions , and then I'll record a better one, i know it has a couple of mistakes but i just want you to hear the idea...so listen and kill me please.

 01_GMC_Jazz_Collaboration_coffeeman.mp3 ( 561.22K ) : 127


P.D Eddie nice work!

Posted by: tonymiro Dec 7 2007, 10:56 AM

Just a quick reminder all that contributions are due XMas day - so there is still time for anyone else who wants to join to get one in.

BTW Coffeeman - I'm holding off commenting until all are in but if anyone else wants to in the mean time please do.

Cheers,
Tony

Posted by: David.C.Bond Dec 10 2007, 01:40 PM

I'll have a go! Sound like fun. We got a chord scheme written out somewhere?

Posted by: tonymiro Dec 10 2007, 03:47 PM

Sure thing David - here it is:

It's a jazz progression in C major based on the common I VI II V I run. In this case the chords are CM7, Am9, Am7, Dm9, Dm7, G9, Dm6/9 (or G13 with no root), Bb9, Fm6/9 (Bb13 no root) and CM7. 4 bars of I, 4 of VI, 4 II and 2 of V plus 2 of I before it loops. First CM7 uses two different voicings of the M7th, one with the B as the upper note (as an Em triad over C bass) and one as the standard 8th position CM7. Standard 4/4 in 122 bpm.

Cheers,
Tony

Posted by: David.C.Bond Dec 10 2007, 04:59 PM

Thanks tony, should be able to have some fun with that. II-V-Is are always nice to solo over in Jazz!
Do we have a backing track somewhere?
I'll give it a bash when I get home from work.

Posted by: tonymiro Dec 10 2007, 05:10 PM

Np David - the full backing track is the attached file at the bottom of post no. 1 - the one called GMC Jazz Collaboration.

Cheers,
Tony

Posted by: David.C.Bond Dec 12 2007, 10:28 PM

Heres my bash at it, it was the first take I played and it kinda worked so I thought I may aswel stop while I'm winning smile.gif

 GMC_Jazz_Collab_1.mp3 ( 432.98K ) : 148


 GMC_Jazz_Collab_1_Guitar_Only.mp3 ( 432.98K ) : 163


Hope ya like!
David

Posted by: Muris Dec 13 2007, 12:46 AM

Nice take David. smile.gif

Tony, sorry for hijacking wink.gif

Posted by: tonymiro Dec 13 2007, 12:54 AM

NP at all Muris, I'm more then happy for people to make comments as we go along- I'm just holding off until the closing date smile.gif .

Posted by: David.C.Bond Dec 13 2007, 01:07 AM

QUOTE (Muris @ Dec 12 2007, 11:46 PM) *
Nice take David. smile.gif

Tony, sorry for hijacking wink.gif


Thanks Muris biggrin.gif

Posted by: David.C.Bond Dec 17 2007, 01:37 AM

How many takes are we still awaiting? I'm eager to hear this one.
Its gonna be smooooth y'all! biggrin.gif

Posted by: Milenkovic Ivan Dec 17 2007, 03:00 PM

Here my little contribution. I tried to keep it as interesting as possible taking in consider that there is just one key center.

 jazz_g_b.mp3 ( 559.72K ) : 82
 jazz_g.mp3 ( 559.72K ) : 59
 

Posted by: tonymiro Dec 19 2007, 12:48 AM

Cheers Ivan smile.gif .

Closing day is Xmas day David - so a few more days to wait I'm afraid - plus a couple more for me to assemble my daughter's Polly Pocket Airplane and Runway toy before I can remix the contributions rolleyes.gif .

Posted by: PlayAllDay Dec 19 2007, 12:57 AM

QUOTE (tonymiro @ Dec 19 2007, 08:48 AM) *
plus a couple more for me to assemble my daughter's Polly Pocket Airplane and Runway toy before I can remix the contributions rolleyes.gif .


Haha - do you have an engineering degree - those toys can be challenging!
I will have my contribution in soon, just got to get some time to finish the recording. smile.gif
This is my first collaboration so be gentle with me - oh what the hey - I can take it, be harsh! laugh.gif

Posted by: tonymiro Dec 19 2007, 07:09 PM

QUOTE (PlayAllDay @ Dec 19 2007, 12:57 AM) *
Haha - do you have an engineering degree - those toys can be challenging!
I will have my contribution in soon, just got to get some time to finish the recording. smile.gif
This is my first collaboration so be gentle with me - oh what the hey - I can take it, be harsh! laugh.gif


Well if it proves to be a real pain I'll take out my frustrations on you guys laugh.gif tongue.gif wink.gif .

And from experience it doesn't help when my daughter decides to 'help' part way through rolleyes.gif .

Posted by: PlayAllDay Dec 30 2007, 07:27 AM

Oh gosh - I've just remembered this collab! I hope I'm not too late - I'll finish off the track and upload it asap, but if it's too late Tony don't worry about including mine...

Posted by: PlayAllDay Jan 1 2008, 05:12 AM

OK Muris - pop your beret back on and have a listen tongue.gif
All comments very welcome - good bad and ugly inclusive...

 jazzPlayAllDay_BT.mp3 ( 867.06K ) : 132


 jazzPlayAllDay_guitar_only.mp3 ( 902.57K ) : 125

Posted by: tonymiro Jan 1 2008, 11:41 AM

NP PlayAllDay,
I'm only just back on line after a much more hectic XMas then I thought.

So apologies for the delay guys. I'll download the collabs today and go through them over the next couple of days smile.gif .

Cheers all for taking part.

Tony

Posted by: PlayAllDay Jan 1 2008, 01:41 PM

Oh thank goodness!
I forgot that I forgot about finishing the upload and then when I remembered to start again I got distracted and forgot - then I forgot that I forgot and luckily I remembered that I forgot - just in time it seems tongue.gif
Now what was I doing? I seem to have forgotten blink.gif

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Jan 1 2008, 03:16 PM

QUOTE (PlayAllDay @ Jan 1 2008, 07:41 AM) *
Oh thank goodness!
I forgot that I forgot about finishing the upload and then when I remembered to start again I got distracted and forgot - then I forgot that I forgot and luckily I remembered that I forgot - just in time it seems tongue.gif
Now what was I doing? I seem to have forgotten blink.gif



Sorry Tony, I didn't make the deadline - got caught up in moving and would have needed a lot of time to pick up some Jazz licks as it just doesn't flow naturally sad.gif

Some nice licks there PAD smile.gif

Posted by: PlayAllDay Jan 2 2008, 03:20 AM

Thanks Andrew biggrin.gif

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