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Building A Couple Guitars
vonhotch
Aug 26 2013, 03:24 PM
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I have been building guitars as a hobby for a few years, and while I am not a great wood worker, every one has gotten a little better. These last two that I am working on I am pretty happy with and excited about so I thought I might share some pics and my process. smile.gif



Specs:
Strings: 6
Neck: 2 piece quartersawn maple neckthrough w/ carbon fiber reinforcement
body: Oak top, mahogany back
Fretboard: Black walnut with maple and cherry binding
Scale length: 25-27
Frets: Jescar gold evo jumbo




Specs:
Strings: 8
Neck: 5 piece quartersawn maple and walnut neckthrough with carbon fiber reinforcement
Body: Poplar top, black walnut back
Fretboard: Black walnut, cherry binding
Scale length: 25-27
Frets: Jescar gold evo jumbo
Pickups: Neck: Lace aluma x-bar Bridge: Lace Aluma Deathbar. Will have coil tapping switchs.
Tuners: Hipshot open back locking

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Gabriel Leopardi
Aug 26 2013, 04:37 PM
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Wou!! This is very cool mate. Th pics are VER promising! I hope that you keep us updated of the progress with more pics. An finally that we could jam together at the Vchat and you use one of them. biggrin.gif

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Aug 26 2013, 04:46 PM
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they do look nice , but I almost expected it to made of aircraft grade aluminum

Did you build the one you use in the chats ?

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Aug 26 2013, 05:24 PM
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Mr. V, how much (an estimation) would those two cost you upon completion? Like an estimation of the total cost covering almost everything? Because I've always wanted to make at least one guitar myself, whenever I have the time and money tongue.gif Also, did you make the necks and fretboards yourself or bought them?

They look killer by the way cool.gif

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Darius Wave
Aug 27 2013, 02:34 AM
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Looks gorgeous smile.gif I've stopped my building adventure at the service level smile.gif

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Aug 27 2013, 03:24 AM
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That is really cool. That 8 string looks like it is going to be a beast! Hope to hear some samples when they are finished.

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Cosmin Lupu
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That 8 string looks like it came out of a dark pit and ready to eat everyone - that's a good thing biggrin.gif

V-man, you look like a talented musical craftsman! What else can you make? biggrin.gif

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Looking awesome, man smile.gif

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vonhotch
Aug 27 2013, 02:33 PM
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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Aug 26 2013, 03:37 PM) *
Wou!! This is very cool mate. Th pics are VER promising! I hope that you keep us updated of the progress with more pics. An finally that we could jam together at the Vchat and you use one of them. biggrin.gif

Of course! I have been threatening to come to one of your chats for way too long. When I get it done I will plan a day off just to come! smile.gif
And thank you. I will post more pics as it progresses.

QUOTE (jstcrsn @ Aug 26 2013, 03:46 PM) *
they do look nice , but I almost expected it to made of aircraft grade aluminum

Did you build the one you use in the chats ?

There will still be plenty of aluminum. laugh.gif
The one in chat is an ESP LTD F207. I didn't make it but I did modify it. I changed the tuners, the pickups, added coil tap switches. And it had a crappy floyd rose bridge on it, which I hated. So I filled the routes and put a hardtail on it and refinished it.

QUOTE (sammetal92 @ Aug 26 2013, 04:24 PM) *
Mr. V, how much (an estimation) would those two cost you upon completion? Like an estimation of the total cost covering almost everything? Because I've always wanted to make at least one guitar myself, whenever I have the time and money tongue.gif Also, did you make the necks and fretboards yourself or bought them?

They look killer by the way cool.gif

Thanks! I would say the 8 string the total cost in parts and materials is about $400. But most of that is in the pickups and tuners the pickups were $100 each, and the tuners another $80. What's more expensive is tools. There is lots of ways to work around not having something but there are some tools that I have gotten that I wonder how I ever did without them. laugh.gif

I made the neck and fretboard. I have seen neck through blanks for sale. But there was no way I was gonna find a fretboard with the specs I needed for this one. The one that is on there now though is a third attempt, the first one I miscut one of the fret slots. mad.gif Then the second one slipped out of my hand and the belt sander launched it across the shop like an arrow!!!! Funny now. Not so much then. dry.gif

QUOTE (Darius Wave @ Aug 27 2013, 01:34 AM) *
Looks gorgeous smile.gif I've stopped my building adventure at the service level smile.gif


Thank you. I try to build one a year just for fun. They have finally gotten to the point of being playable. laugh.gif

QUOTE (DeGroot @ Aug 27 2013, 02:24 AM) *
That is really cool. That 8 string looks like it is going to be a beast! Hope to hear some samples when they are finished.


Thanks, and absolutely!

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Aug 27 2013, 07:17 AM) *
That 8 string looks like it came out of a dark pit and ready to eat everyone - that's a good thing biggrin.gif

V-man, you look like a talented musical craftsman! What else can you make? biggrin.gif

Ha that's exactly what I would want it to look like. My kids tell me it looks like the United States though. dry.gif
I have built a couple motorcycles and parts, and I am pretty good at making trouble. I'm pretty cheap so I try to make whatever can. smile.gif

QUOTE (dark_dude @ Aug 27 2013, 11:52 AM) *
Looking awesome, man smile.gif

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QUOTE (vonhotch @ Aug 26 2013, 02:24 PM) *


- Tree in the back: "Cousin Bob? What have they done to you!?"

Seriously, both look great. Kudos to you, Vonhotch.

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QUOTE (Madfish @ Aug 27 2013, 04:41 PM) *
- Tree in the back: "Cousin Bob? What have they done to you!?"

Seriously, both look great. Kudos to you, Vonhotch.


No Madfish...its the tree in the front...the Guitar is that bark covered rough thing!! laugh.gif

Awesome Vonhotch...you are an amazing craftsman with the picks as well!!

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QUOTE (vonhotch @ Aug 27 2013, 02:33 PM) *
Thanks! I would say the 8 string the total cost in parts and materials is about $400. But most of that is in the pickups and tuners the pickups were $100 each, and the tuners another $80. What's more expensive is tools. There is lots of ways to work around not having something but there are some tools that I have gotten that I wonder how I ever did without them. laugh.gif

That is so true about tools!!!
These both look great mate!!!
My next full-build is a 9 piece neck-through LP for a client. With mahogany wings and a spalted Maple cap.
smile.gif smile.gif

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QUOTE (Sensible Jones @ Aug 27 2013, 05:27 PM) *
That is so true about tools!!!
These both look great mate!!!
My next full-build is a 9 piece neck-through LP for a client. With mahogany wings and a spalted Maple cap.
smile.gif smile.gif

My next full build is a four thousand square ft Doctors Office

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QUOTE (jstcrsn @ Aug 27 2013, 07:11 PM) *
My next full build is a four thousand square ft Doctors Office

How many strings on that? laugh.gif

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QUOTE (jstcrsn @ Aug 27 2013, 06:11 PM) *
My next full build is a four thousand square ft Doctors Office

Damn, that beats my 20' x 30' Workshop!!!

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QUOTE (Madfish @ Aug 27 2013, 02:41 PM) *
- Tree in the back: "Cousin Bob? What have they done to you!?"

Seriously, both look great. Kudos to you, Vonhotch.

laugh.gif Thanks.

QUOTE (Headbanger @ Aug 27 2013, 03:14 PM) *
No Madfish...its the tree in the front...the Guitar is that bark covered rough thing!! laugh.gif

Awesome Vonhotch...you are an amazing craftsman with the picks as well!!


Thanks, and I have to say I'm a bit jealous of Patrik and his fine art of yours. What do I have to do to get one of those? biggrin.gif

QUOTE (Sensible Jones @ Aug 27 2013, 04:27 PM) *
That is so true about tools!!!
These both look great mate!!!
My next full-build is a 9 piece neck-through LP for a client. With mahogany wings and a spalted Maple cap.
smile.gif smile.gif


I love spalted maple. Haven't had a chance to work with it yet, but it is beautiful. Hopefully there will be pictures? What else have you built?

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QUOTE (vonhotch @ Aug 28 2013, 07:01 PM) *
laugh.gif Thanks.

Thanks, and I have to say I'm a bit jealous of Patrik and his fine art of yours. What do I have to do to get one of those? biggrin.gif


I'm sure we could do a deal on a couple of your finest picks!!! laugh.gif (PM if you're interested!)

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These guitars looks amazing, I'll be following this thread.
Second guitar seems to have frets all made at different angle.

I was always curious about how does one know how to space out the frets during the build, especially these which feature a different angle between each other - and have the guitar keep tuning well all over the neck once it is finished?

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They are both FANNED FRET models Bogdan smile.gif They are "Multi-Scale" instruments which means the high strings are at a different scale length than the lower strings.

This is a brilliant (IMHO) method of building for ERG instruments. It permits low strings without requiring crazy tight string tension on the high strings.

I've played lots of 8 string guitars and most of them EVEN MY IBANEZ RG8!! Have WAAAAAAYYYY too much tension on the high strings which makes them non-expressive IMHO. They are great for Djent, single note stuff. But too hard to bend/vibrato. The ONLY guitar without fanned frets that plays even close to a standard guitar is the STRICTLY 7 COBRA 8 STRING that I have been messing with.

I hope I can borrow this latest creation from VONHOTCH once it's ready for action!!!




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QUOTE (Bogdan Radovic @ Aug 29 2013, 08:04 PM) *
These guitars looks amazing, I'll be following this thread.
Second guitar seems to have frets all made at different angle.

I was always curious about how does one know how to space out the frets during the build, especially these which feature a different angle between each other - and have the guitar keep tuning well all over the neck once it is finished?



Share some pix of your builds man!!!!

QUOTE (Sensible Jones @ Aug 27 2013, 12:27 PM) *
That is so true about tools!!!
These both look great mate!!!
My next full-build is a 9 piece neck-through LP for a client. With mahogany wings and a spalted Maple cap.
smile.gif smile.gif

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QUOTE (vonhotch @ Aug 28 2013, 06:01 PM) *
I love spalted maple. Haven't had a chance to work with it yet, but it is beautiful. Hopefully there will be pictures? What else have you built?

I love it too, Love the randomness of the markings. You can work it exactly as you would any other maple.
I have to see my 'client' this weekend and I'll ask if he minds pics. I did a build for him about 4 years ago and he was very reticent to let me use pics for advertising/brochure etc. It's his choice I suppose.

QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Aug 30 2013, 04:26 AM) *
Share some pix of your builds man!!!!

I'll see what I can dig out. I had a load on my old PC which got lost when the Hard Drive threw it's toys out of the pram!
I'm sure I still have some somewhere though!!

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