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Sep 28 2007, 02:13 AM
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It's a bit hard to diagnose without further info Coffeeman - but I'll make a first pass at it. Before I do have you checked for any log file or startup/system error messages that might indicate the cause/s? If you have these can you post them on the board?- might save a lot of trouble shooting time. Also would help to know your actual full pc setup and what you are doing at the point of crash and the type of crash (crash to desktop/keyboard lockup/blue screen of death/black screen of death/pc restart...)
Nevertheless - IF your pc dies regardless of what sequencer etc you're trying to run Coffeeman it may be a hardware rather than a software issue. Following this line as a first stop I'd try completely uninstalling the line 6 software - particularly the dlls. (Save anything crucial that you want to keep though.) If you have a good reset point prior to when you installed line6 then I'd probably use that. Once you've uninstalled line 6 reinstall it carefully. Sometimes you can get major problems with audio interfaces if the installation of the audio driver is faulty. I know this sounds like I'm pointing to a software issue but it's the dlls that is at fault and so when you try to run the line 6 audio you get a crash. In this case I'd say that is faulty hardware implimentation/installation. If that doesn't work then you may have an IRQ conflict between your audio card and some other peripheral OR it might be a fault with your USB connector. For either check the Window's System to see if that is reporting any issue here. If you have an IRQ conflict then its a case of tediously removing peripheral cards and moving them about. USB device error may be a case of checking your USB dll - most likely auto-installed as part of your o/s but you might have installed at a later date if you added USB 2 support post hoc. (BTW as a general rule it's often better to run USB devices from the USB that is connected to the mobo rather then on a flyer cable. The later sometime give odd errors.) Again with the USB - if it is causing problems then it might well be a case of checking how you are set for the actual startup of the pc. I've seen some pcs where peripheral cards don't boot up properly at switch on unless you have set a short delay. If something draws too much juice immediately (often a graphics card) on switch on it can stop other devices being seen by the pc - it then may crash if you try to load. Some other possibilities - unseated RAM chips. Audio software tend to draw on a lot of RAM and if its not properly installed then you can easily get crashes. Also if you're ram sticks are not the same type you will wipe. (AND yes I've seen pc pass POST and seemingly run with mismatched/badly installed RAM. Only becomes an issue when you start to write to the bad ram...) Video card - again pretty much the same - bad seating will wipe you though if that was the cse here I'd be surprised that you passed the POST. Over heating - if your cpu over heats you will almost certainly wipe - audio software can push a cpu hard enough to tip it over the edge if your system is running hot. Afraid these are really suggestions as, like I said I'd need a lot more info to really attempt to diagnose. Cheers, Tony BTW - caveat et emptor warning - I"m not nor have ever been in IT in any way. Just offering ideas based on things I've come across. Others on here however have backgrounds in IT and may be able to give much better suggestions. -------------------- Get your music professionally mastered by anl AES registered Mastering Engineer. Contact me for Audio Mastering Services and Advice and visit our website www.miromastering.com
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Sep 28 2007, 02:19 AM
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I used to get a Blue Screen everytime I switched my Pod XTL off or unplugged it while the PC was still on - a reinstall of Windows for a different reason fixed that. So, it could be something like that combined with a faulty USB connector as Tony suggested.
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Sep 28 2007, 02:44 AM
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If it's really hot then that's probably the issue Coffeeman. Laptops sometimes overheat it they have poor air circulation. My wife has an annoying habit of using her Sony whilst lying on bed with it on a pillow. Bad news as the pillow blocks the cooling exhaust in and out
 . Make sure your laptop is raised up on the legs on the underside - this will help with circulation and that none of the air intakes are blocked. If there are any filters then after 3 years they may well need a quick clean. If this doesn't help you might need to do the following: If you know what you are doing you might be able to fit a new cooling sink/fan to the cpu in the laptop (the old one may either have died, come adrift or just not be up to the job) with thermolyte glue. Laptop's though are a bit of a pain to do hardware switches in - not a lot of space and the parts are both fiddlier and more expensive then a desktop. (I had to reseat and glue my cooler when I changed the harddrive on my laptop just last year - the little beggar was blocking the hd cradle!) One thing - and maybe a bit painful - pc's tend to have a built in shelf life. I sort of see all of ours on a three-five year upgrade cycle regardless of how cutting edge it may have been when it was new. This is more painful with laptops because of their cost but imo it still remains the same... If your laptop has been overheating for some time save, if you haven't already done so, all your important stuff externally now and start considering a replacement as it might give up the fight soon. Overheating is often an indication of imminent hardware failure I'm afraid. Cheers, Tony -------------------- Get your music professionally mastered by anl AES registered Mastering Engineer. Contact me for Audio Mastering Services and Advice and visit our website www.miromastering.com
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Sep 28 2007, 03:00 AM
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 Thanks for your answers. |
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Sep 28 2007, 05:26 AM
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QUOTE (coffeeman @ Sep 28 2007, 04:00 AM)  Thanks for your answers. I had that too, mine dies all the time without warning. I cleaned the fan from dust and after that it hasn't died once. Try that first! My second guess. Since you seem to only have it with your equipment, maybe there's a grounding problem? I have that currently on a stationary computer, if I start messing with the connections to the sound card, like plugging in a speaked when the computer is on it cuts power and then boots immediately. I also had a laptop which had a battery with a bad connection, one could think that if it runs on power the battery is bypassed but it so happened that if I moved the laptop and the battery lost contact, it died. But I'm just a dumb user and speak from the own experienced problems I had and how I solved them (except for the grounding problem, I just stopped messing around with the plugs. problem solved sort of). Besides these I know very little of how a computer works inside. I see tonymiro has lots of qualified suggestions that are on a higher level that may help you. QUOTE (erik @ Sep 28 2007, 05:12 AM) edit: Put it in a refrigerator/freezer!!  Yes... that could work, or move to one of the poles Mind that guitars react on temperatur changes as you step into the freezer.
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Sep 28 2007, 05:37 AM
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Yep - check and clean the filters and cooling first Coffeeman. But also back your important data up as precaution asap.
Tried the freezer bit - my fingers and toes turned blue and fell off - not good for playing the guitar  . OK the way I play it didn't make that much difference .Cheers, Tony -------------------- Get your music professionally mastered by anl AES registered Mastering Engineer. Contact me for Audio Mastering Services and Advice and visit our website www.miromastering.com
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