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Sep 7 2007, 05:53 AM
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Thanks Andrew...i didn't find you dismissive at all
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Sep 21 2007, 01:35 AM
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QUOTE (eddiecat @ Sep 20 2007, 06:48 PM)  Hello Andrew, my name is Eddie. Thank you so very much for your wonderful theory board, it really is of great help! I've spent the last three weeks in here and I can't believe how much I'm actually learning. Now to the pentatonic boxes, major and minor: hoping that I understood the lesson concerning relative minors here's my conclusion:, A given box of a major pentatonic is exactly the same as the box of it's relative minor. So the five boxes of G major pentatonic are exactly the same as the five boxes of E minor pentatonic, the only HUGE difference is the root note (E vs. G) and, of course, the formula. The same thing would work for C and A, for example. Now, if it is so, I'm really thrilled to bits, because besides learning the boxes for both major and minor penta, I'm also memorizing the notes on the fretboard since I know where the different root notes are! Thank you very, very much for your helpfulness and for the clarity within your lessons. Greetings, Eddie Hi eddie, You are close, but lets be exact here just so there is no confusion: A given box of a major pentatonic is exactly the same as the box of it's relative minor shifted down one pattern For example, if you play C Major Pentatonic, that is the same as A minor pentatonic in its 2nd box - the notes are identical, just the root notes differ. So you also have to figure in that 1 box shift and you are right:) See the answer on pentatonic major scale lesson
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Dec 18 2007, 11:50 PM
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These boxes might confuse sometimes.
Deal is to stick with the root note which is C in per example C major pentatonic scale. A minor pentatonic scale has same notes while root is A. Same notes,same boxes,everything. 
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Dec 19 2007, 12:06 AM
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So you're telling me they're completely the same?
 Why should we learn both then?
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Dec 19 2007, 12:12 AM
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QUOTE (Mrblomme @ Dec 19 2007, 12:06 AM) So you're telling me they're completely the same? Why should we learn both then?Root isn't the same,that's the point why we should learn both and not thinking of Am pent while playing C Maj pent.
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Dec 19 2007, 12:33 AM
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QUOTE (Muris @ Dec 18 2007, 06:12 PM) Root isn't the same,that's the point why we should learn both and not thinking of Am pent while playing C Maj pent. Yes, as Muris says, although the pasterns are the same, the scales are different (because they have different roots), and you need to get the scales in your head or it will lead to confusion later, so treat them as different. -------------------- Check out my Instructor profile
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Dec 19 2007, 01:24 AM
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They SOUND different.
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Dec 19 2007, 02:25 AM
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QUOTE (PlayAllDay @ Dec 18 2007, 07:24 PM) They SOUND different. That's the key right there - they sound different because you have them organized right in your head, even though they are the same notes And that's what practicing them as different scales will do for you ... you will practice hearing the notes in a different starting place with the correct root note, and that makes the scale sound and act different. -------------------- Check out my Instructor profile
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Dec 19 2007, 12:06 PM
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QUOTE (Kapto @ Dec 19 2007, 11:33 AM) Of course it's not the same I compare Am with C major A major with #F minor F major with D minor and so on. So while running on 1 pattern I think to myself I am on the G major or Em Key. That IS what I was talking about actually. Most of players think of Em while playing in G using pentatonic, guess it's because we all started with minor pentatonic licks more or less, still,it's wrong way of thinking,there are many spots when player lays down on "wrong" note in solo, per example,laying on E or bending from D to E while chord in progression is G.
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Jan 7 2008, 09:32 PM
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Since Andrew is ofline I'll try help
If you wanna play E Major pentatonic scale than you need to move this box 3 semi tones DOWN, so the yellow dot will be on 12th fret on E string per example,our root note is E now. And if you wanna play E Minor pentatonic scale then you don't need to move at all, notes are same,just consider note E(12th fret on E string) as root now,there you go.
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Jan 7 2008, 09:36 PM
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Yes but it's quite hard to play that low on my axe.
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Jan 7 2008, 09:38 PM
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That low,from 9th to 12th fret?
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