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GMC Forum _ GEAR & PRODUCTION _ Logitech Pro 9000 + Line 6 Ux1 + Reaper

Posted by: eaglesnh4 Mar 28 2010, 06:51 PM

hi guys, i have a Logitech Pro 9000 + Line 6 Ux1 + Reaper. Can someone give me a step by step guide on how to record a video to place in the REC.
So for example. open logitech, click record, open reaper etc...
thanks in advance,
ste

Posted by: Skewlbuzz Mar 28 2010, 10:33 PM

1. Open the programs (quickcam, pod farm, reaper etc.).

2. Load your POD Farm settings.

3. Start recording the video with your webcam software.

4. Start recording the audio with Reaper.

5. Play your track.

6. Stop recording with Reaper.

7. Stop recording with your webcam software.

8. Save and edit everything.

9. Mix video and audio together (for example with Windows Movie Maker).

10. Upload on YouTube.

11. Post on the GMC forum tongue.gif


This isn't a very detailed guide, you might need help from someone else since I'm not that much into recording wink.gif

Posted by: Bogdan Radovic Mar 28 2010, 10:39 PM

Skewlbuzz wrote the exact steps.

You will need to record audio and video in separate applications and then mix them together in a video editing software like (Win Movie Maker, Vegas, Premier etc)...

Let us know if you have problem with any of the steps mentioned.

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Mar 28 2010, 11:57 PM

In addition to that, what I like to do is place the backing 4 times (with precounts) in Reaper on one channel and record guitar in the other channel. This way I record 4 takes, and one of them should be good if I make a mistake (usually the first is the best tho, but you never know.. cool.gif )

Posted by: antonskv Mar 30 2010, 07:26 AM

Hi Guys,

I have exact same setup, Line6 UX1 with Logitech Cam.

Unless you need effects which are done through Reaper, or any other software (I use Ableton Live), that's not the only way right? I mean that's assuming person has an amp and a good mic.

I mean for myself, when i record a video for YouTube, i just use UX1 as a primary Microphone in Logitech Web Cam software, and that way i can skip all the mixing that will need to be done afterward to match Audio and Video tracks. Works OK for me....

If there are some really good benefits of doing it the way you described above let me know, maybe all this time I've been making a huge mistake of bypassing Ableton Live for my YouTube video recording, and i haven't even known it.


Thanks

Posted by: Daniel Realpe Apr 4 2010, 12:31 AM

it's a good idea also to create some sort of reference for syncing purposes, kind of like the clapping thingy that they use on the movies before shooting an scene, so that later on your editing it becomes very easy to syncronize both audio and video

it just has to be a clicking very short sound that goes both on the audio (sounds loud enough to be recorded) and it's visible (so that the cam can pick it up)

Posted by: Bogdan Radovic Apr 4 2010, 02:49 PM

You're way is very good -using UX1 as primary sound card in logitech recording software. But are you able to caputre guitar sound + backing track or just a guitar sound??? I remember having dificulty capturing that way both signals (from guitar and backing playback)...

QUOTE (antonskv @ Mar 30 2010, 08:26 AM) *
Hi Guys,

I have exact same setup, Line6 UX1 with Logitech Cam.

Unless you need effects which are done through Reaper, or any other software (I use Ableton Live), that's not the only way right? I mean that's assuming person has an amp and a good mic.

I mean for myself, when i record a video for YouTube, i just use UX1 as a primary Microphone in Logitech Web Cam software, and that way i can skip all the mixing that will need to be done afterward to match Audio and Video tracks. Works OK for me....

If there are some really good benefits of doing it the way you described above let me know, maybe all this time I've been making a huge mistake of bypassing Ableton Live for my YouTube video recording, and i haven't even known it.


Thanks

Posted by: Fran Apr 4 2010, 03:30 PM

QUOTE (Bogdan Radovic @ Apr 4 2010, 03:49 PM) *
You're way is very good -using UX1 as primary sound card in logitech recording software. But are you able to caputre guitar sound + backing track or just a guitar sound??? I remember having dificulty capturing that way both signals (from guitar and backing playback)...


Exactly, same thing happenned to me, that's why I need reaper + movie maker too.

Posted by: tonymiro Apr 4 2010, 04:19 PM

QUOTE (Fran @ Apr 4 2010, 03:30 PM) *
Exactly, same thing happenned to me, that's why I need reaper + movie maker too.


Not my area as I only do post-prod audio but I would imagine that you need both as Video and Audio will use two different formats - former mp4 (or similar), latter as wave etc.

Posted by: antonskv Apr 5 2010, 08:51 AM

QUOTE (Bogdan Radovic @ Apr 4 2010, 09:49 AM) *
You're way is very good -using UX1 as primary sound card in logitech recording software. But are you able to caputre guitar sound + backing track or just a guitar sound??? I remember having dificulty capturing that way both signals (from guitar and backing playback)...



Hi Bogdan, and everybody else,

You are absolutely right, though software has an option for "Instrument + Mic1" it never works on UX1. Maybe this is an option for UX2 and UX8?

Since i record vocals sometimes too, i naturally need both signals.... So i solved it by just using a good condenser mic and placing it on one side of myself and amp. I set my mic to record "everything in front" instead of "omnidirectional" and it seems to work fine for YouTube videos. For mic I use AKG Perception 420.

There is one plus in this setup, especially if you have a tube amp.... You get quality of the sound made by the amp recorded as well. I cant afford a tube amp, but still my amp makes pretty good tone and its nice to get to record it.

Cause i think if you plug guitar straight into UX1, you just getting a raw signal. Though i imagine with a good amp modulation software its not a problem. I always considered GTR Solo being much better than POD Farm.

If you turn POD Farm or GTR Solo on before you start Logitech Quick Cam Software on, you get something in between the UX1 and your microphone, so you can add extra effects there too.

This is not in ANY WAY a professional setup, but for an amateur hobbyist like me - it really works nicely.

What you guys think?

(I mean perfect setup would be to use 2 microphones through the interface, one for amp and one for vocals, but then with UX1 we run into same problem.... UX1 does not allow recording of 2 signals at once.)

Posted by: Bogdan Radovic Apr 5 2010, 12:13 PM

UX1 should allow to caputre instrument+mic. In the recording software's recording channels you have to set the right inputs. I think UX1 calls them "send 1-2" and "send 3-4". On one you will have instrument input on other one mic. Try experimenting with that...

You're setup seems fine for recording guitars, I just don't how do you caputre backing track too (in the same take withouth editing). Do you just play back backing on the speakers and let the condenser mic pick it up as well as your guitar amp?

Posted by: antonskv Apr 5 2010, 02:42 PM

QUOTE (Bogdan Radovic @ Apr 5 2010, 07:13 AM) *
UX1 should allow to caputre instrument+mic. In the recording software's recording channels you have to set the right inputs. I think UX1 calls them "send 1-2" and "send 3-4". On one you will have instrument input on other one mic. Try experimenting with that...

You're setup seems fine for recording guitars, I just don't how do you caputre backing track too (in the same take withouth editing). Do you just play back backing on the speakers and let the condenser mic pick it up as well as your guitar amp?



Oh! Nice, i didn't think of that. I will definitely give that a try, i'll write back to this thread if it worked out and i managed to do both.
Backing tracks i record same way as you said, i play the track through my studio monitors and let the mic pick everything.

Its not the best setup, but it works for youtube videos. I'm waiting for my E-MU 1616M PCIe, when it arrives maybe i'll hook up a better setup, but setup i got now has served me good for last year that i've been playing.

I'll let you know how it will work out, thanks for the tip!

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Apr 5 2010, 03:28 PM

AS Bogdan said, UX1 has 4 audio streams that are being sent to DAW software (Reaper).

Try to find where you can setup these inputs in Reaper. They are named like this:

SEND 1
SEND 2
SEND 3
SEND 4

UX1 sends whatever you put in POD Farm. For example if you put "instrument+mic" it will put out these audio streams into reaper:

SEND 1 - instrument with modeling
SEND 2 - instrument dry signal
SEND 3 - mic with modeling
SEND 4 - mic dry signal


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