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Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Apr 14 2008, 11:38 PM

I've been planning to do this collab for a long time and here it is now!

First a few introduction words:

All instructors are invited and would do me a great honor to have you all on this collaboration to show your own music style and skills.

Giving in respect that we have many great musicians that are teachers here at GMC it was a hard decision on what to put as backings. I have give it a lot of thought and it turned out to be trickier than seemed at first. The problem is to find a delicate balance between a universal backing track for everyone to be equal in a way and different arrangements for electric and acoustic guitars, voices, bass. In the end it all came down to 4 different backing track that instructors can choose from.

Bare in mind several things before you start. I'm sure most of us know these things but just for the record:

- The progression is a simple one intentionally to leave space for improvisation and players diversity - Cmajor key - VI V IV III an the tempo is 130bpm for all tracks.

- Backings are all loop-able, but you can make an intro to your solo guitar/bass/voice parts or anything that you may find interesting and consider being in your style of making music. You can notify me about your change and I will mix it up later properly.

- I will not change or EQ your recordings in any way so please do the mixing part yourself. I will only intervene with levels when doing final mix in order to preserve your original tone.

- The parts should be labeled as the next example: COLLAB_YOURNAME_WITH/WITHOUT BACKING

- If possible, upload a wave version of your soloed recording mono or stereo if you use stereo effects or double tracks.

- The 4 backings are final. There will be no changes on them. I could add one more, max 2 backings in some different style with a same progression if a number of at least 4 people ask for them.

Have fun!

SIGNED PARTICIPANTS SO FAR:

- Trond Vold
- Pablo Vazquez
- Gabriel Leopardi
- Nemanja FIlipovic
- Toni Suominen
- Juan M. Valero
- Jerry Arcidiacono
- Andrew Cockburn
- Kristofer Dahl
- Marcus Siepen
- Hisham Al-Sanea
- Muris Varajic
- Harris Sopovic
- Vinod Saranga
- David Walliman

Posted by: Trond Vold Apr 15 2008, 12:04 AM

Nice work!
I like the poprock style alot, should be fun to work with

Posted by: Pablo Vazquez Apr 15 2008, 12:34 AM

Great idea!!!!

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Apr 15 2008, 01:49 AM

I like the samba style backing! I choose it!

Posted by: Nemanja Filipovic Apr 15 2008, 02:31 AM

nice job man...I like the pop rock collab..so I eill do that one....
one more thing,uploads should put here or ?

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Apr 15 2008, 07:12 AM

Cool! I'm glad you like it guys

@Nemanja

I don't really know, will have to wait for a confirmation from Kris or Andrew if this topic should be sepparated. I think uploads can be put here.

Posted by: Toni Suominen Apr 15 2008, 01:00 PM

Great idea Ivan, I'm definitely going to do this collaboration!

Don't really know which backing I will choose though, because they all sound cool!

Posted by: Juan M. Valero Apr 15 2008, 01:26 PM

WOW, great collab !!!! at the end it has became in a reality

Posted by: Jerry Arcidiacono Apr 15 2008, 01:39 PM

I will record my take for the heavy style.

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Apr 15 2008, 02:24 PM

Its up to you Ivan - in the past it has been easier to separate the uploads from the conversation so go ahead an make a new thread if you want to

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Apr 15 2008, 02:38 PM

This is awesome - I love the backings!

I'd love to dive into this one - however I will be away from my recording equipment the next weeks... What deadline should we have for this collab?

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Apr 15 2008, 02:41 PM

Oh, and can I bag a spot for the Pop Rock backing please? (I'll be the guy that makes the rest of you look REALLY good!)

Posted by: Nemanja Filipovic Apr 15 2008, 05:15 PM

ha ha

Posted by: Marcus Siepen Apr 15 2008, 09:09 PM

Great job, I just downloaded the backings but so far I am also still undecided about which one I will use ;-) And as Kris already asked, please give us a deadline, I will also be rather busy with Blind Guardian during the next weeks but I definitely want to do my part in this :-)

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Apr 15 2008, 10:40 PM

Well could a month be enough?

Posted by: Hisham Al-Sanea Apr 15 2008, 11:49 PM

month !! i think its enough Ivan

Posted by: Marcus Siepen Apr 16 2008, 08:20 AM

Definitely fine for me

Posted by: Trond Vold Apr 16 2008, 08:22 AM

A month would be good!

Posted by: Muris Varajic Apr 16 2008, 04:17 PM

Ahh,I have main troubles to download backing.

I'm using Safari atm cause Mozilla is down and all I'm getting with clicking on
link is another window with QT player playing the backing...
Any ideas?
There's probably easy solution but I'm new with Safari.

Posted by: Marcus Siepen Apr 16 2008, 04:36 PM

Did you try to right click on the files and chose "save target as" or whatever this option is called? Like this the file should be saved on your hard disc and quicktime should not appear. About Safari, I also installed it shortly ago, but I never really used it so far, so I can't really give you any advice about this one, as far as I know though it also has a download manager, so it should also work somehow. If my connection woud be faster I would just send you the files, but unfortunately I am "crawling" through the net with about 6 kb/s in the moment...

Posted by: Muris Varajic Apr 16 2008, 04:46 PM

I have options Download Linked File,and Download Linked File As.
But it both cases it only download PHP,not mp3 or what was the backing file type.

Posted by: Muris Varajic Apr 16 2008, 05:26 PM

I managed it somehow,problem is that you have to download file
at the same location as in general settings(which is desktop atm),otherwise it wont recognize it.

Posted by: Marcus Siepen Apr 16 2008, 05:31 PM

????????? That's really weird, but at least you managed to download the files, this is what matters in the end

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Apr 16 2008, 05:35 PM

OK guys can we make a UPLOAD topic only and keep it clean there? Then as uploads arrive we can comment them here (for example: "Damn, that upload from _____ was great back there"

PS Sorry for a trivial example explanation...

Posted by: Muris Varajic Apr 16 2008, 05:38 PM

Not really,it saves it as mov. file so I cannot import it into Reaper.
I just want my Mozilla back.
Sorry for hijacking Ivan,I would ask Andrew to delete all of topic replies here,my bad.

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Apr 16 2008, 05:39 PM

It is not hijacking man, if there's any way I can help maybe? I can put backing on some file share server or something if you cannot download them it is not a problem.

Posted by: Muris Varajic Apr 16 2008, 05:58 PM

No need for that Ivan,I uninstalled QT and now it downloads file directly as mp3
and not as mov.
Dunno,maybe I could have solved this without moving QT but I'm not sure how.

I wanna my god old Mozilla back.

Posted by: Hisham Al-Sanea Apr 16 2008, 06:57 PM

can we equalize the backing tracks Ivan ?

Posted by: Marcus Siepen Apr 16 2008, 07:24 PM

I also decided to go for the pop rock version now :-) Is there any desired length that we should aim at or is this completely up to us? And just to make sure I got this right, you want us to upload our solos, WITHOUT the backing track playing in the back, right? Just our addition to the collaboration, you will do the final mix and turn everything into one big jam, right?

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Apr 16 2008, 09:45 PM

Muris - save the file on your computer and change the file extension to mp3 - "filename.mp3"- and it will work!

On month is excellent - I should be able to finish something! I just can't decide which backing to go for - they are all so cool...!

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Apr 17 2008, 10:40 PM

Well, 1 loop is fine and 2 loops are fine too. I think we can set the limit on max the loops per instructor shall we?

In order for me to mix everything properly I must have:

1. version with the backing (so I can sync it properly)
2. version without the backing (so I can mix it properly - if possible this should be a .wav file, but it is not a necessity)



Sure if you want too. I will use original backing tho..

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Apr 29 2008, 09:27 PM

Ok - I think I have decided to go for the pop rock version - it's groovy and will allow for some swingy licks (I hope ) edit - what is the bpm of this one?

Ivan - what do you think about editing your first post so we easily can see which instructors are in? I really hope we can get more instructors to participate in this one!

I am off jamming now!

Posted by: Juan M. Valero Apr 29 2008, 09:57 PM

I'll try to record this collab this week, sorry for the delay, but I have some problems here and I need to resolve them... now things seems to be in the correct way

Posted by: Marcus Siepen Apr 30 2008, 01:22 PM

Kris was faster, I also wanted to ask about the bpm

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic May 1 2008, 11:43 AM

Tempo is 130bpm

Posted by: Nemanja Filipovic May 1 2008, 01:42 PM

I will do mine tomorow night

Posted by: Harris Sopovic May 6 2008, 06:54 PM

If its not too late. Id like to take a turn on the pop/rock track. I'll try to record today or tomorrow

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic May 6 2008, 11:03 PM

Of course, the collab is open for all instructors all the time!

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl May 7 2008, 07:25 AM

Awesome to see you in Harris - welcome!

Posted by: Vinod Saranga May 7 2008, 05:29 PM

I am in

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl May 7 2008, 05:47 PM

Awesome Vinod - I am so happy we still are getting "new" instructors in this collab - please keep coming!

Posted by: David Wallimann May 12 2008, 02:06 AM

Is it too late for me to sign up?

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic May 12 2008, 11:10 AM

Of course not Walli - it would be an honor for me to have you on the collab

Posted by: David Wallimann May 12 2008, 02:45 PM

Great!
I'll post my take sometime this week.