How Important Is The Guitar Brand? |
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Apr 7 2013, 06:36 PM
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QUOTE (thefireball @ Apr 7 2013, 05:52 PM)  It's a different spelling than the condiment mayo.  You know what i've meant 
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Apr 7 2013, 06:50 PM
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I think the point of some the responses about the very real 'impact' of a particular word on the headstock is when one does go to re-sell an instrument.
It doesn't matter if it costs 3500 euros ... if it doesn't have a recognizable name on it, you won't get 1/4 of that in resale (unless you find the very specialized buyer) - full stop. If you're gonna spend serious dough on a guitar, and you're not super wealthy(?) - it's definitely worthy of consideration. *Ibanez, Shecter, Suhr, Tyler, PRS, etc. - these absolutely do count as 'names' now (they have history, known quality and many famous endorsers). They may not rise in value like USA made Fender and Gibson but you won't lose money on them. This post has been edited by klasaine: Apr 7 2013, 06:52 PM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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Apr 7 2013, 07:28 PM
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I recently got my hands on a Tokai Love rock.... On a par with a Les Paul in my humble opinion and an awesome tone...
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Apr 9 2013, 03:43 PM
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Indeed that's very sad...especially some of those unnamed ones can do the job much better than many of those popular.
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Apr 9 2013, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE (Darius Wave @ Apr 9 2013, 07:43 AM) Indeed that's very sad...especially some of those unnamed ones can do the job much better than many of those popular. Yes, sad indeed but that's just the economics of 'things'. -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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Apr 10 2013, 11:03 AM
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I Buy only Jackson / Charvel, Kramer and Fender guitars made in the 80's. And can;t go wrong with those!!
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Apr 12 2013, 03:57 PM
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QUOTE (Headbanger @ Apr 12 2013, 05:06 AM) I think he won't sell many guitars then...Theres a lot of bad players about and not so many 'good' ones. Maybe everyone has to start somewhere and if a starter player was refused permission to buy one of these guitars and then turns out to be the next amazing player...maybe he/she will not decide to endorse that make in the future. I hate snobbery. He's not unique in that attitude at all. Especially in the specialized, boutique market of 'luxury' (considered non-essential) goods. There are amp and pick up builders who do the same. I had a famous pick up guy (who will remain nameless because I like him) refuse to wind me a pickup because he felt I wasn't matching it properly with the other two pkups already in the guitar -  One of the most famous/notorious amp builders of all time constantly turns down potential customers or makes the price so prohibitively high that they balk - or, they say "yes" and at that stupid price he just builds it for them. You can say they're snobs or, you can say they are particular about what they feel would 'cheapen' their product and by extension their name. They are free to sell to whom they choose. A byproduct of capitalism is that the seller doesn't have to sell to you just as you don't have to buy from them. This post has been edited by klasaine: Apr 12 2013, 05:15 PM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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Apr 15 2013, 05:51 AM
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End of first week with a new fender select strat and it was worth it. So I'd say it matters.
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Apr 16 2013, 06:52 PM
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To me when I see words like Gibson I think of not so much the name but the heritage of the music. It makes me think of good ol southern rock with a nice thick sound. As an instrument I think of a heavy guitar with a oversized thick neck, which in retrospect that's very true. Fender I think of blues/country, but also single coil/twangy guitars. Yet again very true. Ibanez I see a stock guitar used for metal with necks that are paper thin. Jackson/Bc Rich/Schecter/Dean is the same as the Ibanez just a slightly thicker neck.
To me it gives a validation of what I may be buying and what sort of style it is mainly used for, tho anything can be used for everything, just some better than others. Plus if you follow me at all you will know it seems once a month I have a new guitar. Sadly this is almost true. Since I just got a 7 and now I'm currently staring down Guerilla guitars. It's not a normal house hold name but they make a 27" scale 6 string with what seems to be close to Ibanez specs for the neck as in thickness.
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Apr 17 2013, 12:20 AM
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I like brands so it does play a role when I'm looking for an instrument. I also value looks a lot!
Of course, for me the sound is the final factor that either makes or breaks the deal. I'm pretty sure that we sometimes do "pay for the name on the headstock" but its not a general rule. Instruments are so much different from each other (even when its the exact same model/brand). It all comes down to pairing the ears and instrument for me. Now this is a bit of different topic but kinda related : custom guitar vs famous brand There are cons and pros here for both but I never actually had a desire to get a custom guitar. Maybe because I do not trust the local luthers available in my area, but it ultimately feels like a gamble to me. I look at it like this : luther has certain experience, skill, art etc. The instrument he makes can be my dream guitar but also it can just sound "not that good". That would be a worst case scenario : what if my dream guitar just doesn't sound like one?! I custom made it, choose everything - I need get it and play, right? On the other hand we have famous brands like Fender and Gibson and they have been in the business of making guitars for such a long time. Then invented so many guitars. They have much more resources to invest into research, testing and everything. This gives me confidence that the product is from a design point of view pretty refined. Main advantage : I can just try out dozens of Fender guitars till I find the ONE that sounds and feels just right. I can play it before I buy it! It might not have the exact exotic wood combination and crazy pickups but the sound and feel will be there.... p.s. I've also seen some really ridiculous guitars made by luthers here so my opinion might be influenced by "child trauma" from the past p.p.s. I'm not bashing on luthers in general or luthers locally here - there are many instruments out there that turned out amazing, look amazing and sound beautiful!
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