Is This Fret Buzz
liveOASISforever
Feb 28 2015, 09:35 AM
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Can someone please tell me if this is fret buzz.It happens on different notes on the fretboard on three of my guitars. It really obvious when I slide to the note but when I pick the notes individually it sounds ok to me.

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Chris S.
Feb 28 2015, 10:31 AM
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If it only happens when sliding and not picking I can't say for sure that it would be fret buzz, although possible.

Just as a test you could try raising your action, if a higher string-to-fretboard clearance eliminates the problem there's a good chance it might be the setup.

What kind of guitars do you have? I can help walk you through the process, or you can always take it to a local music shop for inspection.

Without being there I can't be 100% sure - it could be the setup, your technique, uneven frets (although unlikely if it's happening on multiple guitars), etc.

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Feb 28 2015, 01:14 PM
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QUOTE (Chris S. @ Feb 28 2015, 09:31 AM) *
If it only happens when sliding and not picking I can't say for sure that it would be fret buzz, although possible.

Just as a test you could try raising your action, if a higher string-to-fretboard clearance eliminates the problem there's a good chance it might be the setup.

What kind of guitars do you have? I can help walk you through the process, or you can always take it to a local music shop for inspection.

Without being there I can't be 100% sure - it could be the setup, your technique, uneven frets (although unlikely if it's happening on multiple guitars), etc.


Hi Chris

The guitar I was using was a PRS Zack Myers sig. It has a fixed bridge and I raised it the other week and it actually made it worse.So I returned the bridge height to where it was at.Its weird because its happening on three different guitars. One of the guitars action is actually pretty high as well.

Think I might just put one of the guitars in for a setup and see if that solves the issue smile.gif

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Feb 28 2015, 02:23 PM
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QUOTE (liveOASISforever @ Feb 28 2015, 12:14 PM) *
Hi Chris

The guitar I was using was a PRS Zack Myers sig. It has a fixed bridge and I raised it the other week and it actually made it worse.So I returned the bridge height to where it was at.Its weird because its happening on three different guitars. One of the guitars action is actually pretty high as well.

Think I might just put one of the guitars in for a setup and see if that solves the issue smile.gif

Taking it to a tech would be a great option - if it's not the action it could easily be the relief or any numerous of things.

If they can see what's going on with one guitar, hopefully it will give insight into correcting the others as well.

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Feb 28 2015, 04:29 PM
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That's not fret buzz.
It's a sympathetic tone interacting with the main note.
When you slide I bet you don't have any other fingers or parts of either hand on the strings - ?

Try it with a completely clean tone or unplugged.

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Feb 28 2015, 05:22 PM
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QUOTE (klasaine @ Feb 28 2015, 03:29 PM) *
That's not fret buzz.
It's a sympathetic tone interacting with the main note.
When you slide I bet you don't have any other fingers or parts of either hand on the strings - ?

Try it with a completely clean tone or unplugged.


Thanks for the reply Ken

I do try to mute the strings that are not getting played as best as I can. Definately when the unplayed strings are muted completely the sympathetic tone is reduced greatly but can still be heard.

With a clean tone it seems much easier to mute the strings but again the sympathetic tone can still be noticed.

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Feb 28 2015, 05:35 PM
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I'd have to actually play the guitar to exactly diagnose the issue but I'm almost 100% sure it's not a fret thing.
It could also be a pickup height thing.
Try sliding and muting with your fretting hand behind the note. Sometimes a sympathetic vibration 'behind' the note gets picked up. Does it do it on all notes of that string or only that note?

*Are you playing through a mic'd amp or direct?

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Feb 28 2015, 10:51 PM
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QUOTE (klasaine @ Feb 28 2015, 04:35 PM) *
I'd have to actually play the guitar to exactly diagnose the issue but I'm almost 100% sure it's not a fret thing.
It could also be a pickup height thing.
Try sliding and muting with your fretting hand behind the note. Sometimes a sympathetic vibration 'behind' the note gets picked up. Does it do it on all notes of that string or only that note?

*Are you playing through a mic'd amp or direct?


I tried sliding and muting behind the note and it makes no difference

On the guitar I recorded the example on which is a PRS Se Zack Myers Sig. It happen on a couple of spots on the D string and the high E. Sliding from the 9th fret to the 10th on the D is by far the most noticeable. This is the same on three different guitars.My Jackson guitar has this happening on a lot of the notes all over the fretboard but I would say that the D string seems the most notorious for it to happen.

I recorded the example with my guitar plugged into line 6 GX. I have also played the three guitars through my Blackstar HT1R Valve amp and it has the same effect.

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Chris S.
Mar 1 2015, 03:31 AM
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Very strange indeed.

The only thing I can really think of is that it might be possible that when you are playing each note individually everything is okay, but possibly than when you slide you're finger over the fret that the string brushes against a higher fret ever so slightly. When you slide it sounds almost out of tune-ish.

I tried it on my guitars and when I slid with a lot of finger pressure I noticed about a fret or two higher it would brush the fret quickly - it sounded off but still not as much as your sound clip.

Just a theory - I'm pretty stumped on this one unsure.gif

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