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Posted by: JVM Jun 15 2009, 10:00 PM
Hey guys, what do you think of using http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Image-Line-FL-STUDIO-8-FRUITYLOOPS-EDITION?sku=703244&src=RSSXSTPD&ZYXSEM=0 as a replacement for Reaper? I have a friend who has FL who likes it very much, but is this an upgrade over reaper, or would I be wasting my money?
Posted by: Canis Jun 15 2009, 10:58 PM
It's easier with FL Studio.. But I find it a bit too simple. I've recently started using the same VST's I used in FL Studio in Reaper, since Reaper has a heck of a lot easier guitar-recording then FL, and I get the guitarsound better into the mix then if I were to create the backing in FL and export it into Reaper later.
Try the demo http://flstudio.image-line.com/documents/download.html first. I can almost guarantee that you'll find it easier, but it depends on what you want to use it for 
Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Jun 15 2009, 11:36 PM
FL Studio is more electronic music oriented software, but not a bad one. It's fairly good at creating some interesting rhythmic patterns.
If you want to get a little more serious with audio production Cubase is very good upgrade. I don't consider FL Studio upgrade to Reaper at all, more vice versa.
Posted by: Skalde Jun 19 2009, 04:31 PM
reaper >>>> fruity loops when it comes to record real music.
Posted by: jafomatic Jun 19 2009, 04:35 PM
When you guys say "fruity loops" do you mean the old program or the current production studio software (FL Studio) which, so far in my testing of reaper, offers many features that reaper either cannot perform or I simply haven't found.
I'd be really interested to know if the "fruity loops" bias is based on information gathered when the application was still called "fruity loops" and thus, not the same product that it is today.
Posted by: Skalde Jun 20 2009, 04:07 PM
I own FL Studio 8. It has some nice features which are easy to use, like automation, but for my needs the reaper midi sequenzer is superior.
Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Jun 20 2009, 10:54 PM
I'd be really interested to know if the "fruity loops" bias is based on information gathered when the application was still called "fruity loops" and thus, not the same product that it is today.
I've used FL Studio couple of years but when I transfered to Cubase FL Studio seemed like a toy. It's not a bad software to start working with, just not too serious IMO. You can still make music with it it's not bad, I just feel that other DAWs can be used on a higher level.
Posted by: jafomatic Jun 20 2009, 11:00 PM
Still lacking examples. What did you gain exactly?
Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Jun 22 2009, 06:13 PM
Well, simply put, everything was on a much higher level then before. FL is a bit tricky DAW to use, it's interface is very specific and directed to electronic music more than any other kind of music. I see FL not as a DAW on it's own, but rather like a more developed Battery plug for example - Sampler with some advanced features. FL can be used as a VST plugin so this is very important to remember - you cannot find other DAWs that are used as plugin. This only proves even more the nature of this program and how it began it's life - as a sampler.
Any DAW you open is very similar, you imediately have trackline and possibly mixer and you can start adding tracks. When you open FL the first thing that pops out is not mixer or trackline with audio tracks, it's sequencer. This tells that software is mainly intended for looped sampled music and shaping it. This is however not that bad as I said before, the FL comes with a lot of stuff integrated soyou can start doing music right away. But all these plugs, instruments and samples are cheap compared to full sized DAWs like Cubase for example. Even the stuff that it was primarily created - the sequencing function is not as good as in Cubase or Reaper even. Just doesn't have the full set of features that are kept on a basic level because of simplicity. Interface however is not that simple so they have to work a bit on that if they want to acquire a bigger user core. The price is good tho..
Posted by: Bogdan Radovic Jul 7 2009, 02:26 AM
I don't see why would you use Fruity Loops over Reaper. I find Reaper better for this kind of music we play here. I use Cubase for all recording needs and its great - if you have the money its the real upgrade! 
Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Jul 7 2009, 10:09 PM
This is true, although as I said, FL Studio is a powerful software after all. Any DAW can be great tool in hands of a great musician/producer artist.
Posted by: Skalde Jul 7 2009, 11:10 PM
In the end everyone has to find their own DAW. Everyone has different needs and desires or other approches when it comes to working in a DAW. So the whole debate about the best DAW is pretty much absolete - like a discussion about the best guitar. There are expansive guitars with no doubt great sounds but maybe you prefer my cheap Ibanez because I am used to it. There is no best or better DAW it all about your personal opionion.
If you like Fruity(loops) studio then go ahead and use it. I would recommend reaper because it's free to download, but check out the fruity demo and see for yourself
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