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Inserting Melodic And Harmonic Minor, when and how often?

Ivan Milenkovic View Member Profile	Jun 30 2011, 03:10 PM
Jun 30 2011, 03:10 PM	Instructor Posts: 25.396 Joined: 20-November 07 From: Belgrade, Serbia	Here's another scale related question for everybody: How often and in what situations (over which chords) do you use melodic or harmonic minor scales (or melodic and harmonic minor licks)? You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE - Check out my GMC Profile and Lessons - (Please subscribe to my) YouTube Official Channel - Let's be connected through ! Facebook! :)

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SirJamsalot View Member Profile	Jun 30 2011, 05:37 PM
Jun 30 2011, 05:37 PM	Learning Rock Star Posts: 1.241 Joined: 4-May 10 From: Bay Area, California	When it would sound good! Depends on the backing track and if that's where my mind would lead me! But that brings up a great question - how many of you can hum a melodic minor scale right now without listening to it first! check your answers here: http://www.musictheory.net/exercises/ear-scale/99bbyby You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by SirJamsalot: Jun 30 2011, 06:21 PM -------------------- The more I practice, the more I wish I had time to practice! My Band Forum: http://passionfly.site/chat

El Fortinero View Member Profile	Jun 30 2011, 05:49 PM
Jun 30 2011, 05:49 PM	GMC:er Posts: 359 Joined: 4-June 11 From: Argentina	The only thing i am sure is that when doing a minor scale if you change the 5th grade chord wich is minor you change it to major, when that chord is played you can play the minor armonic. Unfourtunately (or not) it sounds too Malmsteen ,... so if you are not in this style mmmm I really want to know more things like that, so GMC Masterss share your wisdom You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- WWW.GROOVERMETAL.COM.AR

SirJamsalot View Member Profile	Jun 30 2011, 06:16 PM
Jun 30 2011, 06:16 PM	Learning Rock Star Posts: 1.241 Joined: 4-May 10 From: Bay Area, California	QUOTE (El Fortinero @ Jun 30 2011, 09:49 AM) The only thing i am sure is that when doing a minor scale if you change the 5th grade chord wich is minor you change it to major, when that chord is played you can play the minor armonic. Unfourtunately (or not) it sounds too Malmsteen ,... so if you are not in this style mmmm I really want to know more things like that, so GMC Masterss share your wisdom I'm not familiar with the terminology "5th grade chord". Traditionally they are numbered 1-7 and the major/minors/diminished are ordered as: 1. Major 2. Minor 3. Minor 4. Major 5. Major 6. Minor 7 Diminished So 5 would actually be a major chord if you're playing in key. But Yngvie is awesome, so who could fault anyone for wanting to sound too Malmsteen? You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- The more I practice, the more I wish I had time to practice! My Band Forum: http://passionfly.site/chat

Sinisa Cekic View Member Profile	Jun 30 2011, 06:21 PM
Jun 30 2011, 06:21 PM	Instructor Posts: 4.649 Joined: 15-October 08 From: Belgrade,Serbia	I like to use harmonic minor,often . Am/ E7 progression,for instance. Or let's look from another angle - E Phrygian dominant scale is actually a mode - the fifth mode of the A Harmonic Minor scale You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My lessons My FaceBook My Band FaceBook

El Fortinero View Member Profile	Jun 30 2011, 09:29 PM
Jun 30 2011, 09:29 PM	GMC:er Posts: 359 Joined: 4-June 11 From: Argentina	QUOTE (SirJamsalot @ Jun 30 2011, 02:16 PM) I'm not familiar with the terminology "5th grade chord". Traditionally they are numbered 1-7 and the major/minors/diminished are ordered as: 1. Major 2. Minor 3. Minor 4. Major 5. Major 6. Minor 7 Diminished So 5 would actually be a major chord if you're playing in key. But Yngvie is awesome, so who could fault anyone for wanting to sound too Malmsteen? In a minor scale I mean, so if we play the minor scale of A, the fifth grade will be an E(minor) but if we change it to a E (major) you can play the armonic of A in that moment, and it will sound too Yngwie. Hope you get the idea You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- WWW.GROOVERMETAL.COM.AR

Sinisa Cekic View Member Profile	Jun 30 2011, 09:36 PM
Jun 30 2011, 09:36 PM	Instructor Posts: 4.649 Joined: 15-October 08 From: Belgrade,Serbia	The fifth grade is Major Dominant,so it will be E7 ! edit: and YES, that's Yngwish trip ! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by Sinisa Cekic: Jun 30 2011, 09:37 PM -------------------- My lessons My FaceBook My Band FaceBook

Gabriel Leopardi View Member Profile	Jul 1 2011, 06:12 PM
Jul 1 2011, 06:12 PM	Instructor Posts: 36.043 Joined: 3-March 07 From: Argentina	I use diminished scale and arpeggios when I'm shredding... I like the way Malmsteen or Vinnie Moore uses it. I don't use the Melodic Minor too much but it's in the list of things to do! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My lessons Do you need a Guitar Plan? Join Gab's Army Check my band:Cirse Check my soundcloud:Soundcloud Please subscribe to my:Youtube Channel

Ben Higgins View Member Profile	Jul 1 2011, 06:54 PM
Jul 1 2011, 06:54 PM	Instructor Posts: 13.792 Joined: 11-March 10 From: England	QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Jul 1 2011, 06:12 PM) I use diminished scale and arpeggios when I'm shredding... I like the way Malmsteen or Vinnie Moore uses it. I don't use the Melodic Minor too much but it's in the list of things to do! I agree ! The melodic minor sounds ace, it's just knowing where to put it. The harmonic minor is a great scale to use.. not so easy to use without sounding like Yngwie etc.. If you start counting the scale from the 5th, then it does become the Phyrgian Dominant. Check out the way Steve Vai uses Phrygian Dominant in Taurus Bulba from the Firegarden suite. It was the first time I heard another guitarist use that scale and do something different with it ie, not sound like Yngwie. I'm sure there are loads more, including you guys too.. but that was the first time I noticed it myself, years ago. The bit I'm talking about is from 5:35 but of course you should listen to the whole thing to feel the tension/release effect of the heavy riff coming in ! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Lessons My Youtube Channel My Band

Ivan Milenkovic View Member Profile	Jul 2 2011, 09:54 AM
Jul 2 2011, 09:54 AM	Instructor Posts: 25.396 Joined: 20-November 07 From: Belgrade, Serbia	Excellent advices guys, great thoughts! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE - Check out my GMC Profile and Lessons - (Please subscribe to my) YouTube Official Channel - Let's be connected through ! Facebook! :)

Frederik View Member Profile	Jul 2 2011, 10:11 AM
Jul 2 2011, 10:11 AM	Learning Tone Seeker Posts: 616 Joined: 30-January 09 From: Aalborg, Denmark	Harmonic minor i use in minor cadences (i-V) i dont know how to harmonize or use melodic, but i think its used in jazz a lot You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

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