Question About Recording Video, Multiple shots
Taka Perry
Sep 5 2014, 01:55 PM
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Hi guys!

I'm looking to get into doing some guitar playthroughs, but if I've ever had a weakness in something, it has been video editing. Now, I've been using Windows Movie Maker for ages, but truth be told it's pretty shit, so I'm wondering what you guys use to do your video material.

One thing I want to be able to do is switch between multiple camera angles without having to manually adjust each video and trim it correctly. If I record two videos from two angles, is there a program I can use to switch between those seamlessly?

Thanks so much, and please feel free to post up some of your videos that you've done previously smile.gif

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Cosmin Lupu
Sep 5 2014, 03:11 PM
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Hey mate - out of what I understand, you want to film a piece and have two cameras film in real time - let's say, one picking up a general frame and the other one, a right hand close up.

You will have two video tracks which you will have to import in either Sony Vegas or Adobe Premier - these two are the most popular video editing software - and edit the videos there so that the can be either picture in picture, like in the one below:

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Joy-To-The-World/

...either you must trim the two tracks, so that in the moment in which you want to have the general view, you will only have that one and after a few seconds, you will have the right hand detail and then again the general frame and so on. Out of what I know, it's only done manually by trimming the tracks in one of the software mentioned above, or another video editing one. Maybe the guys have another solution - we'll see what other answers come up wink.gif

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thefireball
Sep 5 2014, 05:53 PM
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I asked Pete from Red Seas Fire a few years ago how he did this:

His reply:

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I've been doing youtube cover videos for years and to be honest the whole thing of sitting and filming over and over until you get it perfect is no better than absolutely miming in a lot of ways. I like for my play throughs to be at least a bit authentic so I dedicate myself to record me playing the track 5 times, and each time capture the playing from a different angle. At the end of those I choose the best take to use as the audio.


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Cosmin Lupu
Sep 6 2014, 02:49 PM
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Hey Bran! Great to see you around smile.gif

Now, I also have a friend who's a tremendous axeman and he applies pretty much the same principle - from a point on, when technical elements are not an issue anymore, we will most likely record without having to worry too much about the technical aspects, but more about nuances, expression and all sorts of other important details that have to do with interpreting. I think that's what Petey G is talking about.

When you are in the beginning, you will most likely spend more time nailing things from the technical aspect as well and I think that a real triumph occurs when you can play something 100% correct, in good timing, groove and articulated accordingly wink.gif

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kklee100
Sep 8 2014, 06:42 AM
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Hello, Taka

I use iMOVIE to achieve the multiple angles.
In iMOVIE, the function is called "cutaway".
Below is my video example:





And below is how it works.
Attached Image

Line 1 is my main video (front view).
Line 2 is my audio track.
Line 3 is cutaway video (including side view and some original MacGyver video)

Of course, you must adjust the timing of line 3 video to match the audio track.

I hope this can help you.

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Taka Perry
Sep 9 2014, 05:29 AM
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Nice McGyver video! I remember I used to watch that a fair bit when I was a little kid smile.gif)

I bought some software called TraxAx PC, and it has been really good. Tried out Vegas but it seemed too heavy for what I was doing and kept lagging.

Anyways, I came up with some video test, and I'm fairly happy seeing as though it was my first go at video! Let me know what I can improve in smile.gif

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Cosmin Lupu
Sep 9 2014, 08:06 AM
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Hey Taka smile.gif I enjoyed the video and I think that the software you are using is pretty much allowing you to edit and create any video you'd like.

I was thinking about something and I wanted to ask your assistance a bit - I've never used electronic music drum elements and I wanted to ask you how you are producing those? I'd be interested to experiment with some and also some dubstep beats such as this one - do you have any idea on what to use to be able to work with something like this - around 07:21

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Taka Perry
Sep 9 2014, 08:21 AM
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Hey Cosmin, thanks for the reply!

As for the electronic drum elements, there's a few tips I could give you. The most important one I think is layering drum samples, this way you can get more powerful sounding kick drums. You can also play around with the EQ for each hit, so maybe one kick drum has a high-pass filter and the other has a low pass filter.

Another tip is sidechain! Sidechain lots of elements (especially pads) to the kick drum, so you get that subtle ducking effect when the kick hits, making it cut through the mix. As for what to use, I would just use whichever sampler VSTi you have on your DAW (most DAW's should have something). There's no real magic plugin for creating electronic drums.

Other than that, it's all about experimentation for me! smile.gif I am always looking for a different way to do things, and I encourage every creative individual out there to do this too! smile.gif

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Cosmin Lupu
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QUOTE (Taka Perry @ Sep 9 2014, 07:21 AM) *
Hey Cosmin, thanks for the reply!

As for the electronic drum elements, there's a few tips I could give you. The most important one I think is layering drum samples, this way you can get more powerful sounding kick drums. You can also play around with the EQ for each hit, so maybe one kick drum has a high-pass filter and the other has a low pass filter.

Another tip is sidechain! Sidechain lots of elements (especially pads) to the kick drum, so you get that subtle ducking effect when the kick hits, making it cut through the mix. As for what to use, I would just use whichever sampler VSTi you have on your DAW (most DAW's should have something). There's no real magic plugin for creating electronic drums.

Other than that, it's all about experimentation for me! smile.gif I am always looking for a different way to do things, and I encourage every creative individual out there to do this too! smile.gif


Hey Taka! Thank you for the tips, mate wink.gif

I was sure it's all about experimenting, but I needed somewhere to start from. I can replicate grooves, without too much fuss, but the sounds were the issue here, as I thought you were using a special sounds pack for a certain style. I figured that's how things go, but it makes sense to tweak a 'classic' set with effects.

I'll start tinkering and hope to get something smile.gif

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