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Nov 10 2015, 09:06 PM
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Hello everyone,
I tried to record my Yamaha FG411-CE the other night for the Bucharest thread in the creativity workshop but it sounded lifeless. I used my Boss GT-001. I think the strings have been on it for a long time and I'm going to change them at the weekend could this be the main reasons or is it more difficult than electric? I do have some acoustic patches on the GT-001 but they sounded awful. Any suggestions? Cheers This post has been edited by Phil66: Nov 10 2015, 09:09 PM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE  “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Nov 10 2015, 10:02 PM
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Cheers Mertay,
I'll try the new strings first. This has soaked up so much time along with my other issue (Sex Pistols). Thanks -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Nov 11 2015, 02:02 PM
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Hi Phil, yeah, new strings is the first thing to try. Then, if you are still uncomfortable with tone you can experiment with EQ, or recording this with an external condenser mic (Do you have one?)
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Nov 11 2015, 09:55 PM
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Thanks Gab,
I'll look at that tomorrow now, I decided, like a fool, to change my acoustic strings tonight  That took longer than expected, bridge pins flying out all over the place  Cheers Phil -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Nov 12 2015, 09:54 AM
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Thanks Darius,
There is a small collection of patches on the GT001 for acoustic guitar and some for vocals. I'm starting to think they are for a mic situation in both cases rather than a line for the guitar. I'll put some screen shots on this evening when I get back from work. Thanks again Phil -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Nov 12 2015, 12:49 PM
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Thanks Darius,
I'll post tonight, I changed strings last night so may be a little bright. I saw Eric Sardinas supporting Mr Vai once and he was playing his electro acoustic through a bank of Marshalls  it was incredible. Cheers Phil -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Nov 12 2015, 09:06 PM
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OK, here are some samples. I've named them after the presets. I haven't altered the presets and the EQ on guitar (I only have bass and treble) is set pretty central on each.
Please excuse the poor playing, the guitar needs a good setup and I am very very rusty on acoustic, it felt like running the hurdles  For some reason the "AC FOR ARPEGGIO" Soundcloud embedded player isn't showing  AC BODY MID https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/ac-body-mid AC FOR ARPEGGIO https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/ac-for-arpeggio AC FOR STRUM https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/ac-for-strum AC FOR SOLO https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/ac-for-solo AC 2X2 CHO https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/ac-2x2-cho Cheers, any advice appreciated. Phil This post has been edited by Kristofer Dahl: Nov 16 2015, 02:32 PM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Nov 14 2015, 08:33 PM
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Any tip folks? It does sound better with the new strings in though.
Thanks -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Nov 14 2015, 08:43 PM
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Could you share a downloadable link? even a better quality mp3 would help. Dry sound with strumming would be perfect (so you can add the fx you like later)
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Nov 14 2015, 10:09 PM
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Is this ok? Completely dry, not even the acoustic processor as pictured. The options in the right hand drop down are "small" "medium" "bright" and "power".
DRY.mp3 ( 1.3MB )
Number of downloads: 53As you can see everything in the effects chain is off.  Thanks Mertay, your help is much appreciated. -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Nov 15 2015, 12:49 PM
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Thanks Mertay,
QUOTE (Mertay @ Nov 14 2015, 09:58 PM)  Cool, this is the eq setting I came up with try matching it with any eq you have. The shape doesn't have to be perfect but keep an eye on the values on the left like the decrease on 800hz is -12 on graphic.  I don't really understand what you are telling me to do here I'm afraid, sorry for my ignorance  I only have bass and treble on the guitar plus vol.QUOTE (Mertay @ Nov 14 2015, 09:58 PM) When listening I also thought the pick you are using doesn't sound ideal, after applying this eq make sure to try different picks too. Maybe a softer one thats brigher sounding. I used a Dunlop nylon .73mm pick, I have a .60mm but that is the thinnest/softest I have at the moment. QUOTE (Mertay @ Nov 14 2015, 09:58 PM) From the picture you shared, it seems like an acoustic guitar fx for electric guitar though I'm not 100% sure. This is what it says about the effect in the patch I used, don't forget everything was switched off within the patch though.  I'm not asking you to trawl through the manual for me but the parameter manual link is HERE in case you have a friend that needs help with this unit (GT-001) or the GT-100 which is virtually the same. Thank you so much for your help Mertay. I really appreciate it. This post has been edited by Phil66: Nov 15 2015, 12:51 PM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Nov 15 2015, 01:32 PM
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Thanks Mertay,
I'll look at the other things later on, I have to go for a while now  QUOTE (Mertay @ Nov 15 2015, 12:24 PM) From the explanation, as I understand it was designed for pickuped acoustic guitars while your guitar is mic.d. It doesn't matter really as long as if it makes the sound better for you, no matter how experiend when tailoring the sound its always about test and trying when applying these kind of "fixing" fx. I think if you read it again, it says it is to make the pickup on an electric acoustic guitar sound more like an acoustic with a mic. Thanks buddy, You deserve a medal for your help on GMC  -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Nov 15 2015, 08:28 PM
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Hello Mertay,
This is the same mp3 "re-amped"
DRY_with_ReaEQ.mp3 ( 1.3MB )
Number of downloads: 57 What do you think? Cheers -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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