Copy Kills Music |
GMC Forum > Discussion Boards > VINTAGE GMC > Community Activities and Tutorials > Ask an Instructor > Marcus Siepen
|
|
|
|
Mar 17 2009, 08:51 PM
|
|
Here you go:
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...c=15593&hl= Finding threads can be quite easy, go Search > more search options, the click the link for advanced search help- helps alot when trying to find that specific thread you lost 
|
 |
 
|
|
|
|
|
|
Mar 17 2009, 08:56 PM
|
|
When I buy something I always make a backup of it. Nobody can say it's illegal, I paid for it. The moment I make a copy for a friend, that's illegal. At least that's my opinion which I hope makes sense. I wouldn't even care about the law if I am the only one who listens to it. In case of Ipod you have it in digital format so no need to worry that your CD is scratched. If you lose your Ipod you still have it in your Itunes library which is again yours and you paid for it. Next time you can synchronise it with your new device if you want.
-------------------- Check out my <a href="https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/instructor/Emir-Hot" target="_blank">Instructor profile</a>
www.emirhot.com www.myspace.com/emirhotguitar www.myspace.com/sevdahmetal |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Mar 17 2009, 09:09 PM
|
|
not stealing. cause eventhough u dont have the cd. u still have bougt the right. it might be hard 2 prove in court though
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Mar 17 2009, 09:11 PM
|
|
i hate court
 i never win (speeding tickets)
--------------------  |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Mar 17 2009, 09:12 PM
|
|
QUOTE (sigma7 @ Mar 17 2009, 09:11 PM)  i hate court i never win (speeding tickets)i actually got 1 cancelled by writing a very clever complain 
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Mar 17 2009, 09:14 PM
|
|
nice, justice PREVAILS! haha
-------------------- |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Mar 17 2009, 09:17 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Mar 19 2009, 12:27 PM
|
|
I agree with you, if I buy a cd I have the right to make a backup for myself, I have the right to copy the songs to my computer and to my iPod, I do this myself, no problem. There is no law telling me that I am only allowed to listen to those songs via the cd, I can use all the options, so far, so good... in theory at least:
@ Enforcer: In Germany the law is very clear about this: If something (Game, cd, movie, whatever) is copyprotected, you are NOT allowed to bypass this protection in whatever way, no matter if you bought the cd and therefor own it. Cracking or bypassing any kind of copy protection is illegal here and therefor a crime. So no, in this country you are not allowed to copy a protected cd to your ipod or computer, or to make a backup of your newest movie, or to use a no.cd patch for your latest games, all this is officially forbidden here. No idea how it is in other countries, but here this is not allowed. @ sigma: Your attitude is rather typical, many people say "But I only uploaded one song to my homepage..." Yeah, you uploaded only one song, 9 others uploaded only one song as well and immediately the whole album is online. Oops, what now? Where is the limit? Or to formulate it drastically, is it ok to go to a record store and steal only one single? After all it was only a single, not a whole album. @ wrk: Sure kids still listen to music, but do they still really value it? I see many people trading hard disks with gigabytes of music every single week, they have no chance to even check out all those bands, not to mention really listen to those albums, how can you really value something that turns into this kind of fast food? -------------------- Guitars: various Gibson Les Pauls / Gibson J 45
Amps: Mesa Boogie Tripple Rectifier / Triaxis / 2:90 Poweramp / Rectocabs Effects: Rocktron Intellifex / Rocktron Xpression Homepage: www.marcussiepen.com www.blind-guardian.com Check out my video lessons! |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Mar 19 2009, 01:31 PM
|
|
I agree with you that the music industry will for sure have to face the internet and somehow learn to work WITH it, not against it, something that they failed (or refused) to do so far. But about this direct marketing, selling your music through your webpage directly to your fans, yes, this can work, but only if you are an established act that has a certain fanbase already. If you are an absolute newcomer you can't do it like this, simply because you don't have enough fans yet. If nobody knows you, who will come to your page and buy your music there, and like this pay your studio costs? of course you can also use Youtube and stuff like this to make yourself a name in the internet, but in my opinion this sounds much easier than it actually is.
-------------------- Guitars: various Gibson Les Pauls / Gibson J 45
Amps: Mesa Boogie Tripple Rectifier / Triaxis / 2:90 Poweramp / Rectocabs Effects: Rocktron Intellifex / Rocktron Xpression Homepage: www.marcussiepen.com www.blind-guardian.com Check out my video lessons! |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Apr 2 2009, 09:01 PM
|
|
QUOTE (Marcus Siepen @ Mar 19 2009, 02:31 PM) I agree with you that the music industry will for sure have to face the internet and somehow learn to work WITH it, not against it, something that they failed (or refused) to do so far. But about this direct marketing, selling your music through your webpage directly to your fans, yes, this can work, but only if you are an established act that has a certain fanbase already. If you are an absolute newcomer you can't do it like this, simply because you don't have enough fans yet. If nobody knows you, who will come to your page and buy your music there, and like this pay your studio costs? of course you can also use Youtube and stuff like this to make yourself a name in the internet, but in my opinion this sounds much easier than it actually is. I think you'll have to agree that recording music has gotten cheaper over time. You it's now possible to record music in a reasonably fashion with a pretty small budget. So I don't think that's the issue.About promotion, I partially agree with you here. I think were not yet at the point where artists can easily operate without the support of labels to promote them. At least for non mainstream music. Mainstream seems to adopt slower, may be because it's bigger. I don't know how you get to know new artists but for me it's mostly through friends (or concerts). Some friend tells me "hey you might like this band, check it out". And I get an mp3, youtube link or similar. And honestly I like this. And I think this should be legal to do. In fact in Switzerland it is to some extent. I don't want some suit guys at a label to decide what I should hear based on some return on investment calculations they do. From what I know the record labels job is: - Filtering out the "good" music (where good is defined on the estimated profits) - Support bands in producing more "good" music by paying for studios etc. (I'm note sure to what extent this is true) - Promoting Bands - Distributing/Selling Music - (Annoying, offending and suing their customer base) .... I think the Internet will be able to do all this things and probably most of them in a more efficient way. And the labels will either adopt to that and find their place in this new world (may be as platforms) or die. And I don't think this can be stopped. Even when doing extremely stupid things like censoring the Internet. Now the problem is see is that we are in a transitional state right now. And I think there is one major thing missing. The support of the artists. Why is the support of the artists missing? I guess it's because it's not yet clear how to compensate them (and because they seem to be afraid of that Internet thing). Honestly? I'm not sure how that will work in the end. But I'm certain that one or many ways will be found. Also without the big overhead of the labels (how much do you earn per cd you sell?) musicians might actually earn more not less. Copying or the Internet will definitely not kill music. But it could kill the music industry. And generally I wouldn't miss them. - Jonas -------------------- My Website | My Gear | Elixir Nanoweb Strings Review | Installing Schaller Security Locks
"If privacy is outlawed, only outlaws will have privacy." - Phil Zimmermann |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Apr 3 2009, 01:07 AM
|
|
QUOTE (29a @ Apr 2 2009, 09:01 PM) Copying or the Internet will definitely not kill music. But it could kill the music industry. And generally I wouldn't miss them. Well I am the first who thinks never to record an album again because of this. My 2 years of hard work is not made for torrents and other P2P things. Those songs didn't come from the clouds just like that. Someone had to sit and make all that. Not to mention money spent in the whole project. (I am even scared to talk about the exact number). If you think that copying is not killing music then I can't agree with that. I am sure many people are not happy about it. Firstly it killed the way of listening music. No more feelings about it. Marcus did a great comparison (this became like a fast food). How do you think we (artists/songwriters) can be motivated to continue if we're spending money for nothing. This should be like any other job. When you invest in something then it is logical that you wait for something to come back to you from sales, royalties, publishing etc... If everyone is downloading things for free, then this job becomes pointless. I really see no reason why I would do another album. -------------------- Check out my <a href="https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/instructor/Emir-Hot" target="_blank">Instructor profile</a>
www.emirhot.com www.myspace.com/emirhotguitar www.myspace.com/sevdahmetal |
|
|
|
|
 
|
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:
